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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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Modus_Tollens said:
Certainly. But remember the Primordials were of that same Chaos themselves and in that sea such leviathans still swim. Especially if an Infernal went full Devil Tiger then, yeah, they could find their place in whatever ecosystem is out there and they wouldn't be at the bottom. But they wouldn't be an unassailable fortress-whale either.
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There were great big monsters in the Wyld, not just Raksha but Unshaped, and above the Unshaped in the ecosystem are Hannya, weird, fucked up Unshaped that predate on and make a niche of predating on normal Unshaped in ways that arent normal.

And the Primordials were still unquestionably above. Theion took a Universe, a whole one, from the unborn possibilities into reality and broke it to make his crown. Canon charm fluff from Shards Theion Charms.

Primordials don't fuck around.

Universe Emperor Shintai said:
Theion woke far from his brethren, brushing against the infinitude of Time Not to gaze on the 10,000 kingdoms he might rule. The formless rebels of Chaos laughed at him, a foolish monster seeking a place that could house his impossible majesty, but they screeched in voiceless terror at what he did next. From all his would-be dominions, the Empyreal Chaos drew forth the skeleton of the universe and shattered it, fashioning it into the fiery tines of his crown, lighting the flame of his righteousness and forging a realm greater than any imagined by others.
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[X] With that courtesies Usum recalls (Charisma+Etiquette; may use Excelency)
-[X] Use Excellency

We got Etiquette for a reason.

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Demon Emperor Shintai also has some interesting stuff. Theion holding Time and Resurrection, the two impossibilities...re-reading these is cool.

Demon Emperor Shintai said:
As this Charm activates, the Infernal's being evolves into pure Essence and expands at infinite speed to encompass the universe. For a moment, his feet tread the shinma and the wholeness of fate tangles about his limbs like tattered cobwebs. Time sits at his right hand and resurrection upon his left.
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[X] With that courtesies Usum recalls (Charisma+Etiquette; may use Excelency)
-[X] Use Excellency
-[X] Greet Mouse respectfully, but without drawing on Usum's courtesy, instead introduce yourself as a friend of Harry and not a creature of Hell.
Valkhir said:
Primordials don't fuck around.


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Theion is just such a charm (pun FULLY intended) is he? If the Solars and the Unconquered Sun were the great heroes and benevolent emperors who does great things simply because they are puissance itself. Then Theion is royalty precisely because he is [KING]. The very concept of sovereignty is etched upon the cosmos because the King of All Primordials wills it.
 
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Worth noting that if you go etiquette you are going to sound like a demon seeking peaceful congress because that is where you get your information, that hints at the fact that you have source of such insights in your head.

Then again you know about the dark spirit in his head so maybe turn around is fair play.
 
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DragonParadox said:
Worth noting that if you go etiquette you are going to sound like a demon seeking peaceful congress because that is where you get your information, that hints at the fact that you have source of such insights in your head.

Then again you know about the dark spirit in his head so maybe turn around is fair play.
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I don't think I mind?

Totally unrelated but does our Occult score/info download know about soul hierarchy and how ours works?
 
Valkhir said:
I don't think I mind?

Totally unrelated but does our Occult score/info download know about soul hierarchy and how ours works?
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I mean kind of, you know what a han and po soul is and what they do, you know your power is a third soul and Usum is the fourth. You do not know what a soul hierarchy is because... well you do not know what a primordial is either. That is deep lore you have to looks for

Artemis1992 said:
We could also go full Do Not Hinder My Ways, Mortal Creature.
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You could do intimidation sure, though it will be considered impolite at best.
 
DragonParadox said:
Then again you know about the dark spirit in his head so maybe turn around is fair play.
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I dearly hope we give a cavalier greeting to the woman whenever we meet Harry.
Valkhir said:
There were great big monsters in the Wyld, not just Raksha but Unshaped, and above the Unshaped in the ecosystem are Hannya, weird, fucked up Unshaped that predate on and make a niche of predating on normal Unshaped in ways that arent normal.

And the Primordials were still unquestionably above. Theion took a Universe, a whole one, from the unborn possibilities into reality and broke it to make his crown. Canon charm fluff from Shards Theion Charms.

Primordials don't fuck around.
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They very much do not, and that is part of what makes that place so terrifying. Its infinite in the most literal, absolute of senses. Anything that there is one of definitionally becomes something with infinite reflections.
 
[X] With that courtesies Usum recalls (Charisma+Etiquette; may use Excelency)

It's time to let some things out into the open. There's no running from it or denying it, so might as well lean into it. This is what she is now. She is a nascent Demon Empress, inheritor of a foul and mighty power. If she chooses to deceive, it should be in service to her goals, not for fear of a dog.

And if there's anyone on the planet that's likely to listen but not judge (or judge but nontheless be sympathetic to) the holder of a dark and ancient power, it's Harry Dresden, one-time host of the demon Lasciel and starborn bane of Outsiders.
 
It seems unlikely that there were scarier things than the Primordials in the Wyld when they didn't do anything when the Primordials imposed cause-and-effect on everything. Everything that we know about the Primordials' interactions with the Wyld can be summed up as the Primordials doing as they pleased. And it's not as though the entities of the Wyld were happy about that, as shown by the uncounted number who were burned, frozen, and cut to pieces by the River of All Torments.

It's not impossible for something scarier to show up in the Wyld at some point, but the chances of that happening aren't very high.
 
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Modus_Tollens said:
They very much do not, and that is part of what makes that place so terrifying. Its infinite in the most literal, absolute of senses. Anything that there is one of definitionally becomes something with infinite reflections.
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Outside of the Wyld and Oramus' Beyond and Szoreny's infinite self reflection recursion, Cecelyne herself was Infinity and Infinite in scope so its not unheard of for them...

Didn't protect them from the Exalted though, RIP. This universe is dangerous as fuck, and honestly I don't expect the Outside to do well against the Exalted Host, Solar Deliberative or the Primordials.

Our problem is ...that we are not these things. We are mega diminished so unless we can regain our rightful glory we are fucked out of luck.
 
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DragonParadox said:
OOC: Mouse is in full battle mode because to him you look like an arch-devil in a day-trip out of hell.
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Needs to work on his investigation Molly is a Princess of Hell not a servant.

[x] Appearance+Empathy+excellency. Go down on one knee, and extend your hand palm down for smelling. Come on boy you know my scent even if it has changed a bit. Why because Exalted smell that good.
 
Creticus said:
It's not impossible for something scarier to show up in the Wyld at some point, but the chances of that happening aren't very high.
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I don't find it likely that the Wyld could produce greater beings than Primordials. Oramus and his Luna creating Gu cauldron of horror already showed there is likely a limit to how much you can squeeze out of a concept.

If something horrific, mind shattering and obscenely powerful were to show up, I'd bet it would come from Oblivion. How does something come from a void of nothingness?

Lets hope we dont find out.

It could also come from some Exalt's lab or something. Exalted can get up to horros undreamt of in the infinite chaos, I swear.
 
Artemis1992 said:
[X] Treat it like a hostile dog, no threatening gestures, no eye-contact, wait till it has calmed down before getting any closer, etc (Charisma +Animal Ken)

@DragonParadox
Is this a valid option?
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Yes, but you know he is as smart as a person, it is one of the gifts of spirit blood and you have five occult. Now you could try that and play dumb basically but then it us up in the air if Mouse knows you know how smart he is. If he does than he will be insulted by it.
 
DragonParadox said:
Yes, but you know he is as smart as a person, it is one of the gifts of spirit blood and you have five occult. Now you could try that and play dumb basically but then it us up in the air if Mouse knows you know how smart he is. If he does than he will be insulted by it.
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Okay, i didn't know that.

I thought Mouse was just a smart animal with supernatural instincts.
 
[X] With that courtesies Usum recalls (Charisma+Etiquette; may use Excelency)
-[X] Use Excellency

We are a magnanimous and very very classy demon princess - let us treat this honourable scion of Heaven with the appropriate respect and decorum.
 
[X] With that courtesies Usum recalls (Charisma+Etiquette; may use Excelency)
-[X] Use Excellency
--[X] And offer vigorous belly rubs!
 
[X] With that courtesies Usum recalls (Charisma+Etiquette; may use Excelency)
-[X] Use Excellency

It might look kinda funny from the outside if we speak past Dresden and address his dog with archaic formality.
 
So that'll be 10 Dots with Excellency for trying to get this godling to get off our back. And 1s don't substract succeses. Nice.

Also, tomorrow I might make a Sidereal Combat thought exercise. Spoiler alert, it's fucking overpowered.

(But then again, it's Sidereals. What isn't overpowered coming from them?)
 
[X] With that courtesies Usum recalls (Charisma+Etiquette; may use Excelency)

Let's at least try into diplomacy.

On the subject of cosmology, it seems reasonable to me that angels at least, are various circle devas of Primordial YHWH, who might or might not be a variation of Theion (perhaps even the Neverborn version of Malfeas past some extensive changes). The outside is probably Oblivion and/or deep Wyld.

The question is whether Sol Invictus Satan (or at least inspiration for Satan) or not. Because in Exalted, he won. But the "Creature of Darkness" status seems to map with demons, and is unlikely to map with Sol himself. So, that's quite a conundrum.
 
XP so far, you are almost guaranteed to get up to 10 now
  1. Safely Escaped Arctis Tor 3 XP
  2. Dealt with the soulgaze and its aftermath 2 XP
  3. Kept the peace with Charity and did not scare your family 2 XP
  4. Made it though your first day of school 1 XP
 
DragonParadox said:
XP so far, you are almost guaranteed to get up to 10 now
  1. Safely Escaped Arctis Tor 3 XP
  2. Dealt with the soulgaze and its aftermath 2 XP
  3. Kept the peace with Charity and did not scare your family 2 XP
  4. Made it though your first day of school 1 XP
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I know it's been 2+ decades since I was in high school, but it never seemed stressful enough to be worth XP. Then again, Molly's circumstances are a bit different than high school me. :V
 
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