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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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Remember folks, one Full Session equals one EXP in Exalted. One Full Story Arc equals one EXP in World of Darkness.

DP is motherfucking generous.
 
Jack vile Ripper said:
Remember folks, one Full Session equals one EXP in Exalted. One Full Story Arc equals one EXP in World of Darkness.

DP is motherfucking generous.
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I do not know if I would call it being generous, I too would like to see you guys do cool things with your demigod powers in good time and not in 2030 which is what 1 XP per arc would do. I mean the the nature of the crossover and the vastness of the source material there are certainly plenty of things to spent XP on.
 
It's less generous and more "These games assume you're working as a group", solo campaigns require different, more generous rules to really work.
 
I was gonna go with by rage recast because apparently it works well with Demon Emperor shintai, how much does it even cost?
 
Hmm, should we wait a little bit to get the Shaping Defense Charm or no...

But By Rage Recast looks very good though.
 
DragonParadox said:
Dealt with the soulgaze and its aftermath 2 XP
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Speaking of, now that I think of it... How in the hell does soulgaze work?

1) We are an exalted. This means that we have exalted soul structure. This means that humans in general have exalted soul structure. Ie hun and po souls, all that jazz.
2) Soulgaze is an automatic ability that works by eye contact, works on anything with a soul, and can't be shielded against by mortal magic. It is, in terms of exalted, a Perfect (social?) attack / investigation charm. Which is also free.
2.5) It is my understanding that normal, even enlightened, mortals, don't normally have access to perfect abilities outside of maybe magical martial arts
3) Soulgaze provides information about the target. It not only gives information on who they are, but on who they can be. Ie it gives information about the target's possible futures.
4) During the soulgaze we conversed with Lasciel, who lived in his mind/soul. This implies things about Harry's soul structure, I think.
5) Molly doesn't seem to possess the property/ability of soul gazing

My point is - I don't know what it means exactly but soul gazing being an inherent free ability of all mortal practitioners in Dresdenverse implies changes in how reality works on the level of, if not greater, than Salinan workings. In fact, it looks quite close to said working.
 
Yog said:
2) Soulgaze is an automatic ability that works by eye contact, works on anything with a soul, and can't be shielded against by mortal magic. It is, in terms of exalted, a Perfect (social?) attack / investigation charm. Which is also free.
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It's also Mutual. which is a big difference to most charms or attacks.

To make a soulgaze you must accept laying your own soul bare.

That principle seems important here, Molly specifically noted it as the big difference to her prior mind-invasions.
 
Yog said:
Speaking of, now that I think of it... How in the hell does soulgaze work?

1) We are an exalted. This means that we have exalted soul structure. This means that humans in general have exalted soul structure. Ie hun and po souls, all that jazz.
2) Soulgaze is an automatic ability that works by eye contact, works on anything with a soul, and can't be shielded against by mortal magic. It is, in terms of exalted, a Perfect (social?) attack / investigation charm. Which is also free.
2.5) It is my understanding that normal, even enlightened, mortals, don't normally have access to perfect abilities outside of maybe magical martial arts
3) Soulgaze provides information about the target. It not only gives information on who they are, but on who they can be. Ie it gives information about the target's possible futures.
4) During the soulgaze we conversed with Lasciel, who lived in his mind/soul. This implies things about Harry's soul structure, I think.
5) Molly doesn't seem to possess the property/ability of soul gazing

My point is - I don't know what it means exactly but soul gazing being an inherent free ability of all mortal practitioners in Dresdenverse implies changes in how reality works on the level of, if not greater, than Salinan workings. In fact, it looks quite close to said working.
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Soulgazing is a minor part of having the Sight which is perfect perception at the price of perfect recall, overusing it will soon drive a human mad. While looking at the souls of others at first meeting does not generally cause those problems it is also reciprocal. Which means if you have secrets you would rather not share, and Harry has many of them, you really should not use it. It is just that he is as the Shadow of a Fallen Angel in his soul put it self-flagellatingly heroic.
 
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Yog said:
Speaking of, now that I think of it... How in the hell does soulgaze work?

1) We are an exalted. This means that we have exalted soul structure. This means that humans in general have exalted soul structure. Ie hun and po souls, all that jazz.
2) Soulgaze is an automatic ability that works by eye contact, works on anything with a soul, and can't be shielded against by mortal magic. It is, in terms of exalted, a Perfect (social?) attack / investigation charm. Which is also free.
2.5) It is my understanding that normal, even enlightened, mortals, don't normally have access to perfect abilities outside of maybe magical martial arts
3) Soulgaze provides information about the target. It not only gives information on who they are, but on who they can be. Ie it gives information about the target's possible futures.
4) During the soulgaze we conversed with Lasciel, who lived in his mind/soul. This implies things about Harry's soul structure, I think.
5) Molly doesn't seem to possess the property/ability of soul gazing

My point is - I don't know what it means exactly but soul gazing being an inherent free ability of all mortal practitioners in Dresdenverse implies changes in how reality works on the level of, if not greater, than Salinan workings. In fact, it looks quite close to said working.
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Soul gazing is a double-edged sword, in that whoever you use it on gets just as much opportunity to learn about you as you do about them, which is far from ideal. It can also be dangerously distracting for the user in some situations.

IIRC, it's also not really a free ability, but a learned skill/ability that you acquire once you've crossed some nebulous threshold on the path to maximum wizardness. Not all practitioners develop it, only those powerful enough to be considered a real wizard, and then there is a significant amount of instruction involved, typically years of one-on-one mentorship. You don't automatically have it just for being one of the tiny fraction of Humans with the necessary potential, no more than you start off being able to throw fireballs on day one of your apprenticeship.
 
Maybe too late for a write-in, but we could try to explain ourselves to Mouse, that we are a fruend of Harry and not (just) a demon?
Seems better than a formal introduction from a citizen of hell.
 
DragonParadox said:
He is broadly speaking right about what you are, where the confusion comes from is with who you are. ;)
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Asking the real qustions, do we smell like Usum or is Usum's scent leaking out of our soul? Or is it that we technically count as a demon because Usum is part of our soul?
Artemis1992 said:
Seems better than a formal introduction from a citizen of hell.
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We aren't a citizen of hell, we're the inheritor of the thousand hells. Literally the prince(it's a gender neutral title in this context) of the thousand hells.
 
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Just 9xp to become wealthy enough to to start effecting the global direction of the world. Use craft to get some seed money, get a law-firm to handle stuff, then start making millions on on the market. Get enough money to just buy a node up, and turn it into a fortress.
 
Artemis1992 said:
Maybe too late for a write-in, but we could try to explain ourselves to Mouse, that we are a fruend of Harry and not (just) a demon?
Seems better than a formal introduction from a citizen of hell.
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Something like this?

-[] "...Greetings, Celestial Guardian. Forgive me for not announcing my arrival beforehand. I go by the name Molly, a friend of your charge Harry. I bear you no ill will."

It shows that we are surprised by his sudden appearance whilst also showing the proper decorum of someone with Etiquette 2 and Occult 5.
 
CorruptedKing said:
It's too bland needs more embellishments mouse needs at least a 5 word title and molly needs to introduce herself as 'we are molly' includes Usum and probably something like 'forgive this one/Hell Emperor'
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Ah, straight up Xianxia Young Master then. Hold on a second.

-[] "Greetings, Celestial Hound of Heaven. Forgive this Young Mistress for not announcing her presence beforehand. This one goes by Molly of House Carpenter. I am here to beseech your charge, Harry in an unofficial meeting to conduct a discussion."

I went full Chuuni on this one, so be merciful.
 
[X] Greet Mouse respectfully, but without drawing on Usum's courtesy, instead introduce yourself as a friend of Harry and not a creature of Hell.
-[X] Use Excellency

@DragonParadox not sure what the roll would be, propably Charisma plus Etiquette anyway?
 
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[X] With that courtesies Usum recalls (Charisma+Etiquette; may use Excelency)
-[X] Use Excellency
-[X] Greet Mouse respectfully, but without drawing on Usum's courtesy, instead introduce yourself as a friend of Harry and not a creature of Hell.
 
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