Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

True.
So, need a longer list.

If we find other sources of Old Realm (even if it's something we end up writing later) another question could be 'who wrote in this language?'

Anyone have other ideas?
Where is the current list?
-[X] Use Excellency (Intimidate) + Demonic Primacy of Essence: -1 Essence

Do we need to spend essanse for that? We already spent the essanse on that earlier this scene.
 
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Where is the current list?


Do we need to spend essanse for that? We already spent the essanse on that earlier this scene.
There is no current list we probably should get someone with abilities to edit and a thread mark for it though.
True.
So, need a longer list.

If we find other sources of Old Realm (even if it's something we end up writing later) another question could be 'who wrote in this language?'

Anyone have other ideas?
Maybe technically if we wanted the absolute maximum amount of questions Molly could ask in a day are something like over twenty with essence regen. Always assume you're gonna need essence later though so two or three questions a day makes sense for Molly everyday she doesn't have an active job.
 
Maybe technically if we wanted the absolute maximum amount of questions Molly could ask in a day are something like over twenty with essence regen.
Something like a hundred and ten if we were to spend entire 24 hours in a bleach bath, doing nothing but asking questions every 15 minutes.

Potentially more, if the tube is on a Dragon Nest/Leyline node.
 
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Categories of questions
  • Where is the treasure
    • of Money
    • of Knowledge
  • What are the current plots
    • Separated by faction
Any other questions outside of these categories?
 
Categories of questions
  • Where is the treasure
    • of Money
    • of Knowledge
  • What are the current plots
    • Separated by faction
Any other questions outside of these categories?
Well we need focuses but yes. Just general secrets would be nice and maybe the answer for general science things. We also need a list of the focuses we've spent eventually.
 
Categories of questions
  • Where is the treasure
    • of Money
    • of Knowledge
  • What are the current plots
    • Separated by faction
Any other questions outside of these categories?

If we ask for current plots by faction we'll burn valuable organization level questions on random shots in the dark to name one issue.

A better way to handle that particular issue would be social media.

Get the name of someone low level and then ask for everyone who works at the same organization they do using their picture/Facebook profile. Then work our way down the list and ask for their knowledge of the functions of their organizations.

Granted many organizations can't be targeted that way, but anyone using mortal thralls could be vulnerable to indirect attacks this way, so we'd just need to change the exact phrasing of the question.

Any variety of treasure question aimed at money is a waste of time. Turning old gold coins or what have you into cash is too involved if we want to get something worthwhile from the sale.
 
If we ask for current plots by faction we'll burn valuable organization level questions on random shots in the dark to name one issue.

A better way to handle that particular issue would be social media.

Get the name of someone low level and then ask for everyone who works at the same organization they do using their picture/Facebook profile. Then work our way down the list and ask for their knowledge of the functions of their organizations.

Granted many organizations can't be targeted that way, but anyone using mortal thralls could be vulnerable to indirect attacks this way, so we'd just need to change the exact phrasing of the question.

Any variety of treasure question aimed at money is a waste of time. Turning old gold coins or what have you into cash is too involved if we want to get something worthwhile from the sale.
In fairness some stockpile of gold is useful since a lot of supernaturals trade in it and such. It is largely useless though and isn't likely to pan out in most cases. Magical items and artifacts are worth plenty though or even just the location of certain artifacts or post things which we can trade info for favors once we are more secure in our powers and power base. Far more secure mind you or on a case by case basis.
 
In fairness some stockpile of gold is useful since a lot of supernaturals trade in it and such. It is largely useless though and isn't likely to pan out in most cases. Magical items and artifacts are worth plenty though or even just the location of certain artifacts or post things which we can trade info for favors once we are more secure in our powers and power base. Far more secure mind you or on a case by case basis.
Gold secured from treasure like that has most of its value bound up in its origin. Shaping doubloons into gold bars is eliminating most of theoretical sale price, and unless we find so much we'll struggle to mask it using the crown to get money other ways would be more effective.

As to magical stuff; remember that we aren't running on dnd rules here. DF magic does have some stuff that you can just pick up and use, but a vast majority of it is going to be the sort of thing that Dresden uses, which require maintenance to function.

I doubt we're going to be able to trawl around and get an easy supply of useful items like that.

Materials sure, but not stuff like enchanted swords or rings of invisibility.
 
Gold secured from treasure like that has most of its value bound up in its origin. Shaping doubloons into gold bars is eliminating most of theoretical sale price, and unless we find so much we'll struggle to mask it using the crown to get money other ways would be more effective.

As to magical stuff; remember that we aren't running on dnd rules here. DF magic does have some stuff that you can just pick up and use, but a vast majority of it is going to be the sort of thing that Dresden uses, which require maintenance to function.

I doubt we're going to be able to trawl around and get an easy supply of useful items like that.

Materials sure, but not stuff like enchanted swords or rings of invisibility.
Ehhh I mean ancient stuff must still exist dude it's not all just Dresden files normal stuff I imagine. Most people don't have a search button for all the worlds mysteries we can find heroic artifacts, lost god weapons, or anything remaining from exalted. Like it's definitely not just white council grade magic gear out there the average person can't find this stuff.

Like some of the stuff in hades vault may not even be the real deal just the belief alone is worth stuff though. There are bound to be demigod weapons and such still out there or any number of exalted things. Given a lot will be in the hands of beings in the never never or their vaults and such.
 
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Questions:
Truth of aliens
Location of ruins/artifacts/secrets of Atlantis, Mu, and Lemuria
True nature/purpose of the Egyptian pyramids
Location of anything written in Old Realm
Some ideas for foci:
Aliens:
Use Roswell Grey dissection photos for "identities of actual aliens who have visited Earth"

Use the night sky or the chart of our galaxy for "locations of actual alien civilizations"

Use SETI (either go visit, or use the photos from their websites) for "contents of the longest alien message to ever reach Earth"

Locations and lore:
Use the text of Plato's Atlantis for the location of actual Atlantis

Use the bible for the location of Tower of Babel maybe?

Use various types of buildings (such as libraries, vaults, prisons, temples) to find "the location of oldest existing *insert type of building here*". Possibly do the same with various types of objects (swords, books, and, for fun, a shuttle for "spacecraft").

And yes, of course use our examples of Old Realm to look for locations of anything written in this language. If we had more than one focus, I would gamble and ask for "locations of native speakers of this language", but with only one focus available, that's too big of a leap.

When we visit the NeverNever "Scar" location from which our exaltation shard was taken (because we really should) we could probably ask for the origin of said location. Or the locations of other stuff originating from the era in which the scar was created. Or something like that. We'll need to figure out the correct question.

The glow of Lydia's anima could probably be used to find the other exalted, or people capable of exalting (maybe there are dragonblooded still existing), or the mechanisms / proper names for what we are. Our exaltation can't see itself, but it can see Lydia.

It's a bit metagamey, but I want to go to a desert and ask for the location (or identity) of the oldest desert. To find Cecelyne.

We have reason to investigate Kukulkan. We know that Red King isn't actually Kukulkan, but we might locate something of the original. Who might or might not be related to dragon kings. And even if he isn't, having a godly ally is useful.
 
Some ideas for foci:
Aliens:
Use Roswell Grey dissection photos for "identities of actual aliens who have visited Earth"

Use the night sky or the chart of our galaxy for "locations of actual alien civilizations"

Use SETI (either go visit, or use the photos from their websites) for "contents of the longest alien message to ever reach Earth"

Locations and lore:
Use the text of Plato's Atlantis for the location of actual Atlantis

Use the bible for the location of Tower of Babel maybe?

Use various types of buildings (such as libraries, vaults, prisons, temples) to find "the location of oldest existing *insert type of building here*". Possibly do the same with various types of objects (swords, books, and, for fun, a shuttle for "spacecraft").

And yes, of course use our examples of Old Realm to look for locations of anything written in this language. If we had more than one focus, I would gamble and ask for "locations of native speakers of this language", but with only one focus available, that's too big of a leap.

When we visit the NeverNever "Scar" location from which our exaltation shard was taken (because we really should) we could probably ask for the origin of said location. Or the locations of other stuff originating from the era in which the scar was created. Or something like that. We'll need to figure out the correct question.

The glow of Lydia's anima could probably be used to find the other exalted, or people capable of exalting (maybe there are dragonblooded still existing), or the mechanisms / proper names for what we are. Our exaltation can't see itself, but it can see Lydia.

It's a bit metagamey, but I want to go to a desert and ask for the location (or identity) of the oldest desert. To find Cecelyne.

We have reason to investigate Kukulkan. We know that Red King isn't actually Kukulkan, but we might locate something of the original. Who might or might not be related to dragon kings. And even if he isn't, having a godly ally is useful.
Jim was vague in canon he did say in this universe earth is basically the center of the universe though. Do aliens probably don't exist dimensional travelers might though. Given dp doesn't like the whole multiverse aspect where Uriel has to deal with countless different versions of harry dresden I doubt that though. I mean word of Jim if you go far enough Star Wars exists. Also this isn't a far enough in the never never thing these are straight up alternate realities and timelines.
 
Jim was vague in canon he did say in this universe earth is basically the center of the universe though. Do aliens probably don't exist dimensional travelers might though. Given dp doesn't like the whole multiverse aspect where Uriel has to deal with countless different versions of harry dresden I doubt that though. I mean word of Jim if you go far enough Star Wars exists. Also this isn't a far enough in the never never thing these are straight up alternate realities and timelines.
Earth is the narrative center of the universe, yes, but the universe still exists, and some alien mystics / explorers might have found their way to Earth. And OOC maybe Autochtonia exists, and his inhabitants are counted as aliens. Personally, I'm just curious and it could be fun and really different from our normal adventures to interact with actual space aliens.

Plus, there's also word of Jim that the farthest you can get through NeverNever is the moon, and even that's tricky, so stuff farther away should be different and kinda OCP for most Earth-based powers.
 
Earth is the narrative center of the universe, yes, but the universe still exists, and some alien mystics / explorers might have found their way to Earth. And OOC maybe Autochtonia exists, and his inhabitants are counted as aliens. Personally, I'm just curious and it could be fun and really different from our normal adventures to interact with actual space aliens.

Plus, there's also word of Jim that the farthest you can get through NeverNever is the moon, and even that's tricky, so stuff farther away should be different and kinda OCP for most Earth-based powers.
In fairness power wise fairly sure some things could straight up destroy the universe in Dresden files. Admittedly the ones that can are limited they still potentially can though. The mothers at the very least operate on scales farther from the queens than the queens are from the ladies by a significant margin. I assume some gods of the past or heck even present operate on similar scales if not many in canon given likely just as limited in mortal affairs as them.
 
Basically, loot Atlantis. And yes, it exists in Dresden Files, at least according to Maeve in Cold Days:

I am fairly sure we could probably find some valuable magical trinkets there.
Point of order:
I am going to caution about assuming this is true. The Fae normally cannot lie, but at this point in time Maeve was infected by Nemesis, and both could and did to multiple people. She, or Nemesis influencing her, was trying to get Dresden to kill her mother Mab under false pretenses.

I would want corroboration before assuming any claims of fact she made were accurate.

Current tally:
Adhoc vote count started by uju32 on Nov 23, 2022 at 3:08 AM, finished with 80 posts and 4 votes.
 
Point of order:
I am going to caution about assuming this is true. The Fae normally cannot lie, but at this point in time Maeve was infected by Nemesis, and both could and did to multiple people. She, or Nemesis influencing her, was trying to get Dresden to kill her mother Mab under false pretenses.

I would want corroboration before assuming any claims of fact she made were accurate.
She could lie, yes, but there's no reason for her to invent an entirely fictional Atlantis to use as a comparison in her lie of what Mab was planning to do. It costs us nothing (well, a few bucks) to get a copy of Plato's Atlantis and to use the crown on it.
 
[X] Have them escort the submarine

Just dont try to move money.
If we go so far that we'll raise magaical stuff from the sunken ships, why not raise money and donate them to the museum?

Use the bible for the location of Tower of Babel maybe?
But this will break our promise, will not it? I also want to scry the nature of White God, but I understand why Molly with her background gave such promise.
 
She could lie, yes, but there's no reason for her to invent an entirely fictional Atlantis to use as a comparison in her lie of what Mab was planning to do. It costs us nothing (well, a few bucks) to get a copy of Plato's Atlantis and to use the crown on it.
I think that was a thought-experiment with no relation to any actual isle?

We would need a better connection I think.
 
I think that was a thought-experiment with no relation to any actual isle?

We would need a better connection I think.
In real life yes. In Dresden verse, assuming Atlantis actually existed, it's a boom which gave the rough location of the island, and is the primary source by which it is known to the modern world. I am fairly sure it qualifies as an arcane link. We might want to look for an original copy of the Timaeus, but there's no problem with trying for me.
 
[X] Have them escort the submarine
-[X] Use the Crown of Eyes on the underwater building as soon as you see it to determine its internal layout
-[X] Use Leadership excellency
-[X] If flight is faster than using the submarine, then use it to spearhead the charge.
-[X] Stunt: The miriad eyes of your soul focus on the underwater structure. They discern not just the barely perceptible outline seen through the water, but the internal layout too. With a few strokes of your sword, you carve what you have seen in the sides of the boats of your very much temporary allies minions. using it as the basis, you outline the plan of the attack, the routes of possible retreat and how everyone should move, from the entrance and to the heart of the facility.

Something like this.
 
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