Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Bluntly speaking? Fuck the US health industry and all the political stooges it has in its pockets, I am perfectly happy to have to explain working with the mob if it hurts those fucks.
Plus, honestly, Molly is the type of person who would agree with that sentiment.
 
Bluntly speaking? Fuck the US health industry and all the political stooges it has in its pockets, I am perfectly happy to have to explain working with the mob if it hurts those fucks.
Plus, honestly, Molly is the type of person who would agree with that sentiment.
Harry - Molly, why do you have the mob running actual medical drugs?

Molly - Idle hands Harry, idle hands. At least this way the drugs they smuggle are a net positive.
 
Harry - Molly, why do you have the mob running actual medical drugs?

Molly - Idle hands Harry, idle hands. At least this way the drugs they smuggle are a net positive.
Molly: "I considered the relative moral degeneracy of the pharmaceutical industry compared to that of modern organized crime, and no matter how I looked at it, the mob was by far the lesser of two evils."
 
Come to Chicago, we have demonic healing and mobsters with magical cures from from the hell dimension. :V
Basically? Yes. And if all else fails, you can sell your soul to God-Empress. She offers a good price. Certainly better than almost anyone else.

Harry - Molly, why do you have the mob running actual medical drugs?

Molly - Idle hands Harry, idle hands. At least this way the drugs they smuggle are a net positive.
Molly: "I considered the relative moral degeneracy of the pharmaceutical industry compared to that of modern organized crime, and no matter how I looked at it, the mob was by far the lesser of two evils."
Serious face though: II'm not that worried about either Harry or even Murphy. It's Rosie that worries me in regards to this situation. Because I could easily denarian!Rosie down this path.

Also, on the update - Sanctuary is much better known than I expected, if Marcone already knows.
 
[X] Fortress construction
Yes, the time has come to build our fortress and I hope we will have the chance not to lose the exaltation to Odin.
 
Bluntly speaking? Fuck the US health industry and all the political stooges it has in its pockets, I am perfectly happy to have to explain working with the mob if it hurts those fucks.
Plus, honestly, Molly is the type of person who would agree with that sentiment.
Seeing the... aftermath of certain recent events in the good old U S of A, I think undercutting the healthcare businesses might even earn us some brownie points with the public.
 
[X] Fortress Construction

@DragonParadox would like to remind you of one thing, one of the actions chosen in the winning plan (Crown and Scepte), had already been chosen in the previous plan with maximum value. Since we spent 6 SG AP last time and the 6 again now, how are you going to decide how to use them?

I think this error happened when we were still evaluating which actions were or were not chosen and @Yog forgot to update his plan before closing.

--[X] [SGI] Crown and Scepter, see what good your unique talents can be put towards in Sanctuary. 6 SGI AP
 
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[X] Fortress Construction

@DragonParadox would like to remind you of one thing, one of the actions chosen in the winning plan (Crown and Scepte), had already been chosen in the previous plan with maximum value. Since we spent 6 SG AP last time and the 6 again now, how are you going to decide how to use them?

I think this error happened when we were still evaluating which actions were or were not chosen and @Yog forgot to update his plan before closing.
On my part I assume that governing is an ongoing AP sink, and I am committed to sinking as much AP as possible into it, to maintain high level of loyalty and efficiency from the Courts. Our people deserve the best.
 
We'd better get used to dealing with people like Marcone: We're going to be seeing Arthur in the near future. Arthur at least is well intentioned but you don't get to be a blood-stained warlord without doing blood-stained warlord things. If we ever succeed in making Wolfram & Hart like in our old plans, in the dawn of the quest, this will be our bread and butter.

But I wonder how many billionaires dying of cancer are going to be getting invited into smoke filled back rooms and what they would do for a genuine saving throw after all others have been either spent or fumbled. Looking at you from the land of the living, Steve Jobs.
 
On my part I assume that governing is an ongoing AP sink, and I am committed to sinking as much AP as possible into it, to maintain high level of loyalty and efficiency from the Courts. Our people deserve the best.
I mean, it could very well be an ongoing expense, but nothing in the lawsuit says that, and we haven't even received details about the first time. What it says is that it would take action to see where we could help the government, so maybe the next part would be an ongoing committed expense?

I just wanted to clarify with DP, because he might still be thinking that we didn't choose him in the previous round.
 
Y'know, it's not like Healing is that easy even for Wizards. And considering they're still in a war with the Red Court, I could see the White Council trying to make a deal with Tiffany for healing. The way she just trivialized Harry's Aggravated Damage after Las Vegas isn't unheard of, but certainly isn't common even among the Senior Council.
 
But I wonder how many billionaires dying of cancer are going to be getting invited into smoke filled back rooms and what they would do for a genuine saving throw after all others have been either spent or fumbled.
A lot. The answer is a lot. And they'll probably pay in percentages of their companies, not money, if Marcone is smart.
Looking at you from the land of the living, Steve Jobs.
Oh, yeah. He's still alive, has already been diagnosed, and his cancer is back right now:
In January 2006, only Jobs's wife, his doctors, and Iger knew that his cancer had returned. Jobs told Iger privately that he hoped to live to see his own son Reed's high school graduation in 2010.[137] In early August 2006, Jobs delivered the keynote for Apple's annual Worldwide Developers Conference. His "thin, almost gaunt" appearance and unusually "listless" delivery,[183][184] together with his choice to delegate significant portions of his keynote to other presenters, inspired a flurry of media and internet speculation about the state of his health.[185] In contrast, according to an Ars Technica journal report, Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) attendees who saw Jobs in person said he "looked fine".[186] Following the keynote, an Apple spokesperson said that "Steve's health is robust".[187]
Should we leave him to Marcone or just suborn him ourselves? Just... take over Apple, essentially? Use him as a catspaw to push Court computer technology. Jobs was way into eastern mysticism, from what I read. So, assuming MIkaboshi hasn't got to him yet, Molly might. What she offers is genuinely dream come true for him.

The issue is, of course, real world people in fanfics. Better to use an expy or something.
 
Why the fuck are we offering splendors. That costs actions. Just offer enchanted items from sorcerers colaborating with fortune sorcerers.
 
I wonder if Tiffany works in the same new age salon with the same girl or if she moved on... Or if she offered Chelsea enlightenment for her faith...

And also how will Marcone explain the situation to his people. Will he explain to them that we are the supernatural equivalent of the US President in terms of influence and resources... Or will he decide to limit himself to half-truths?

The last point is a question for everyone here. Meeting Charity's parents is inevitable. The question I have is how far should we drag them into the supernatural to explain everything. Or leave them on the edge of ignorance about the true nature of the world...and Molly's true nature.
 
Why the fuck are we offering splendors. That costs actions. Just offer enchanted items from sorcerers colaborating with fortune sorcerers.

It comes back to the fact that we shouldn't be offering anything.

This is Danegeld we're offering. We'll now never be rid of the Dane. Bribing criminals not to commit crime is asking them to come back and ask for more and more and more.

Giving Marcone access to superior healing and the leverage it offers to extort was one of the worst thing we could have offered him, as it allows him to suborn and corrupt wider sections of society and institutions.

There's no way he won't exploit this to further empower himself.
 
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It comes back to the fact that we shouldn't be offering anything.

This is Danegeld we're offering. We'll now never be rid of the Dane. Bribing criminals not to commit crime is asking them to come back and ask for more and more and more.

Giving Marcone access to superior healing and the leverage it offers to extort was one of the worst thing we could have offered him, as it allows him to suborn and corrupt wider sections of society and institutions.

There's no way he won't exploit this to further empower himself.
I don't care about any of that. It doesn't matter once we raise a god of chicago. He will become a subordinate by default.



I am surprised that we are offering pur personal time to fullfil this. When its not needed at all, because enchanted objects can do that kind of shit just as well. Like why would we ever do this stuff personally that splendors imply. He is not worth a single second of our personal time.
 
I don't care about any of that. It doesn't matter once we raise a god of chicago. He will become a subordinate by default.



I am surprised that we are offering pur personal time to fullfil this. When its not needed at all, because enchanted objects can do that kind of shit just as well. Like why would we ever do this stuff personally that splendors imply. He is not worth a single second of our personal time.

Why would he automatically become subordinate? That doesn't logically follow. With a monopoly on Sanctuary grade medical tech he becomes a national and international player, Chicago at that point means almost nothing to him. It's just one small market among hundreds of more important ones.
 
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Why would he automatically become subordinate? That doesn't logically follow. With a monopoly on Sanctuary grade medical tech he becomes a national and international player, Chicago at that point means almost nothing to him. It's just one small market among hundreds of more important ones.
Because we have a business contract. Not an unbreakable oath. Marcone knows that even with these terms he is dependent on us. And yes, it is not a guarantee of subordination. But we brought him into our sphere of influence. Not the other way around.
 
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