Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
Has to be the funniest shit you've posted, had people trying to see what was on my phone and everything.
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Offhand shouldn't there of been white council traitors completely unrelated to this conspiracy? Like someone who sold secrets to red court or someone? Not all traitors should be involved in this right just statistically right? Even if it's just 1 or 2.
[X] Plan Complex Solution
I'd say we do not have a lot of votes, but I'm not even an American and I'm having anxiety about your election, not really surprised.
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BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
I'm about ready to shit myself.
Same. Honestly, after I turn in my ballot, I'm not going to even think of the election for fear of murphy.
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so dp was every council traitor part of the same conspiracy? Like there really weren't any unrelated traitors? I'm not saying the same side but like different types of traitors. Like those who sold council secrets or a guy who did necromancy on the side privately.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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I turned in my ballot more than a week ago, but I still get reminded about the election about every hour. Joys of living in a battleground state. Just wish all the ads would give actual information rather then vague one liners.
Arc 14 Post 63: Of Works Wonderous and Terribile
Of Works Wonderous and Terribile
20th of February 2007 A.D.
"While I am very proud of the help I was able to provide Olivia", you gesture to your Circlemate and a bowl of stroganina in front of you, Tthis would actually be a terrible idea for this particular issue. What I offered to her required strength of will and internal self-discipline. It's not for those already afflicted with mental issue". You smile just a bit, trying to lighten the mood. "No, my proposal is rather more complex than this: What if people couldn't break the Laws...?" You pause with a purpose, knowing the objection that's sure to come.
"A geas will only twist them further even should be be worked with no mortal magic," the Gatekeeper's voice is gentle. "Pushing and pulling at the fabric of the mind until it frays and finally comes undone."
"No," you shake your head. "[Could Not]" That wasn't said in English.
"Ooh!" Lash looks a little perturbed... and a lot interested. "Do you know how the constants of nature aren't? How you can find places in the Nevernever where the speed of sound is six hundred and sixty six miles per hour, where steel is an element and light can be frozen in place? That but flesh and blood and soul is what she means. That which is written in the Book of Ages, even in faintest smallest hand cannot be undone by any who do not behold it"
"I was envisioning a book that those bound would have to willingly sign," you say, a little perturbed and letting it show. Now you understand instinctively is not the sign to seem too confident or they will think the whole thing a fool's errand. "That would have a secondary function, if those so bound would conspire to break the laws anyway by magics infernal or... external the book will show their signature burning out. Such a power might break the interdict with only access to the Lawbreaker but to deceive the Book of Laws one would require access to it and the knowledge of its making for a beginning."
"How'd you mean?" McCoy asks, the terseness of his words doing little to hide the emotions carved into his face. There's anger there and doubt and fear, but there's enough hope to at least hear you out.
"Of nightmare-dreams would be the ink, on page of shattering futility writ, colorless as the void that the force of entropy itself would work to the preservation of my design and not against it." You pause and force yourself to stop thinking in the Language. "I have no idea how one could make the Book lie even with all the access in the world. I am morally certain there is a way, but it's like one of those cryptography problems where you can use a computer to build a code no computer can crack." It's not a good comparison since given enough time any code can be cracked, it's just not feasible to do so with current tech in a sensible time-frame, but the point is to tell a story.
"So the real danger would be if someone could steal and replace it," Olivia cuts in thoughtfully. "But then you would have to get signatures from everyone else..."
"Wouldn't work, you can't bathe twice in the headwaters of the same river, one would have to break the Book, make a copy and then fill up that copy with the signatures of everyone bar the warlock you wished to free..." you nod, more firmly than before. "It is logistically unfeasible without the kind of power that could crush all of us."
"Never you Majesty," the demon on your metaphorical shoulder whispers.
"Even if what you say is true, by the time we find most warlocks it's too late for them..." You can see McCoy is struggling to argue even as the Gatekeeper is staring a holw though the table thinking.
Alas Olivia doesn't get the message. "What do you mean too late? People can get help, there's an entire field of medicine dedicated to it. We aren't electroshocks and freezing baths anymore you know!"
"Olivia it's OK," you put a hand on her shoulder. "I actually have an idea for that as well..." Thunk goes the heavy book of mostly printed out information from Sanctuary's SUTRA networks dealing with the healing of psychic wounds. "As far back as the history of the Five Courts goes they've been looking for a way to heal the effects of an imperfect joining of spirit and material being. I'm not going to sugarcoat it, it's bad, some of it's as bad as Lawbreaking and they have never been able to find a reliable way to keep the wounds from opening again, the rumor from regrowing, until now, until me. Healing too is a concept and concepts can be given form."
"The Golden Flece, the Sword of Light, the Crescent Moon Blade, these are the things alike to what she speaks, objects in Essence true," Tiffany says.
"How would you even...?" Harry trails off, weighing his own conception of Essence agains what you're rescribing. "It's already inside stuff and outside of it too."
That is when you spring what may be the most dreaded words to ever grace a boardroom or classroom. "I have slides."
The prospect of reading a book that could serve as a lethal weapon goes a long way to getting people to keep an open mind about a slide show, or so at least you hope.
When you get to the birds that used to be Kemmler's alarm system are now quite dead, but could be the seed of a living self propagating system of mitigation that does not depend on strict enforcement, a means to extend the hand of help, but not intrusive, draconian oversight. The whole show ends in ringing silence, then the sound of people taking sips of half-forgotten drinks.
"Arthur's going to want the book or nothing," McCoy says. "You would barely get past the first K before he'd tell you to shove those birds into a furnace not the heads of impresionable talents and most wizards who remember the War, especially in Europe are going to back him."
"The powerful desire power, how pedestrian," Tiffany's smile is much too beautiful to be called a sneer, but it gets the point across.
"There is one other thing I can do," you admit slowly. "Lie, lie to the universe so hard and so throughly that the lies become truth for a time at least, curses undone even if they are forged of blood and magic, all ills and maladies stopped in their tracks before the promise of spring."
"The promise but not the fact?" the Gatekeeper half-asks.
"I can just... keep promissing."
That stops the conversation in its tracks again as you explaint that people do have to agree to do what you tell them, but you don't have to give them commands and all denying you will do is lift the protection.
"You know one of the first thing I have to teach young wizards is that magic isn't like children's stories, not the new ones at least, there's always a price and you have to pay..." McCoy muses. "I've ever thought before what it would be like to meet someone whose magic really works like that."
"Terrifying?" Lydia asks knowingly, though without the smile one would expect.
"Yes."
"I would sugest you mention the book and the healing, but nothing else," his fellow Senior Council member says, hands steepled before him in thought. "Especially not the last. It will breed nothing but suspicion. It will have to be tested. Sadly we have no lack of wizards so twisted through on fault of their own to which the Council as a while owes the attempt."
What does Molly say?
[] Agree, it's frustrating to limit the help you can give like this, but it's to get advice on the politics of the Council that you went to them to begin with
[] Refuse, you are sure you can talk the others around
[] Write in
OOC: I know this isn't the order you guys voted in but it flowed better this way.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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Seems like we aren't going to be using False Hope Springs for much besides a nice bonus for Thomas's hard work.
So, to be clear, we failed to make a good impression with any of those? If we needed 5 more successes than the opposition?
Damn...
Could you answer (let's assume we talked with Harry about that beforehand or something to that nature) what WC would do if we... just released the pigeons without telling anyone of their origins or nature. And let them breed for a while. Would they try to exterminate the birds?
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a waste of exp no player of a pen and paper has ever felt this pain
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Good fucking luck with exterminating the birds lol they'd have as much success in that as the Australians did with the emus.
Kemmler succeeded once before.
a waste of exp no player of a pen and paper has ever felt this pain
I really wouldn't say it's a waste by any stretch we have other people that would benefit you already mentioned Thomas and I mentioned before a couple of others and it allows us to help more people simply because False Springs beckons works on any and every debilitating condition not just warlockism.
That would help with Nelson and Rosie as well...
Oh dear sweat Malfeas I just had a thought... that would work for Lawbreakers, the damage warlocks do to themselves is explicitly the same that the victims of mind warping suffer. You could make an army of sane warlocks.
The White Council is going to love you. /s
Oh no, you did all of them, that has -1s and you do not get them in Key rolls.
Kinda the only reason wizards don't do it is because they are not taught right. Ultimately nothing stops a wizard from adopting such a paradigm. Hell, human brain is incredibly easy to make think in stories and tropes. Scam artists exploit it without any magic.
Actually... And for now:
[X] Write in: Ask, in the spirit of open cooperation, if avoiding the mention of Kemmler at all would make the idea more palatable? You owe the birds their new lease on life, an insult to the man who would use the tragedy of their passing. Re-framing the story as you stumbling upon them deep in the NeverNever is possible. And maybe releasing them in a way that doesn't target the Full Wizards, but minor talents only is also possible, so it's a hand extended to those the council cannot reach, but must still punish.
-[X] Agree to not use False Springs Beckons on those who are part of White Council
If the issue is Merlin's PTSD towards Kemmler, then avoid mentioning Kemmler. Hell, make the birds avoid full wizard talents, and only target / connect to minor talents, who do not become part of White Council anyway, but do need protection against Lawbreaking. @DragonParadox would this work? I mean, are we capable of doing this?
A bit of fae truth in the end. If they end up emigrating to Fivefold Courts, or IDU, that's a whole different story.
[X] Write in: Ask, in the spirit of open cooperation, if avoiding the mention of Kemmler at all would make the idea more palatable? You owe the birds their new lease on life, an insult to the man who would use the tragedy of their passing. Re-framing the story as you stumbling upon them deep in the NeverNever is possible. And maybe releasing them in a way that doesn't target the Full Wizards, but minor talents only is also possible, so it's a hand extended to those the council cannot reach, but must still punish.
-[X] Agree to not use False Springs Beckons on those who are part of White Council
If the issue is Merlin's PTSD towards Kemmler, then avoid mentioning Kemmler. Hell, make the birds avoid full wizard talents, and only target / connect to minor talents, who do not become part of White Council anyway, but do need protection against Lawbreaking. @DragonParadox would this work? I mean, are we capable of doing this?
A bit of fae truth in the end. If they end up emigrating to Fivefold Courts, or IDU, that's a whole different story.