Yes, you can also keep the charm on anyone that is still there.
The spirit on your phone no matter its nature could be tortured into spilling your secrets if someone got their hands on your phone.
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Yes, you can also keep the charm on anyone that is still there.
The spirit on your phone no matter its nature could be tortured into spilling your secrets if someone got their hands on your phone.
It may only be fully sapient while possessing an item, just like the spirits awakened by the original version of the charm wouldn't normally be sentient and only are when awakened.
We need our own node to properly setup a way to take advantage of the many infernal tricks.
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Ice would probably work really well with the ultra salt bath, as evidenced by the number of morons who recently filmed themselves using both to deliberately injure their hands for the purpose of getting 1 second of internet fame.
Doesn't the charm we just took do away with the need for a node/dragon nest?
That's true even if we dont awaken its spirit.
Someone else could awaken it themselves and make it cough up the info.
Do many other Dresdenverse magic users have the ability to awaken object spirits though?
If there are Hungry Dead Thrashing Dragons out there they probably do, but apart from that?
The Yama King of the Wicked City has dominion over the darker side of tech, he has corrupted countless city spirits commands hacker Akuma and legions of once human cyborgs. He would have better ways to spy on you with tech than using intelectus to repeatedly ask 'Has Molly Carpenter's phone blown up yet?' Especially as his attention is limited and every time he asks that question he isn't doing something else. Now could be specifically blow up something of yours than grab the devil as it slides back whence it came? Yeah, but if he is in a position to blow it up he is probably in a position to steal it or spirit trap it and no matter what kind of tech spirit it is he can use that.
There aren't any Yama Kings either in Dresden, so I am assuming at least some other spirits are able, as a staple of both WoD and Exalted to have least spirits.
Otherwise, I don't think Dresden is animistic.
No it charges our essences that is all. You still need a node for most things, especial crafting magical stuff, you can't just half ass it and let the excellency drop part way thou crafting. And taking penalties for working underwater in deadly liquids certainly won't help.
The problem is now anybody with even a spark of magical abilities can just extract the demons name, banish then and re-summon them loyal to them for a no cost way to compromising everything. This makes the charm basically useless for its intended purpose of set and forget spy networks. We can't just take over the cites camera network as anybody could notice and flip it upon us at will.
I think small gods are quite compatible with Dresdenverse, Bob would be one for instance and there are Loa running around, Harry uses a minor one for divination at one point.
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I feel at least some yama-kings or equivalents will be other cultures than just asian or well have different facets that aren't the asian stuff. something something faces changes. Its even kinda dresden compliant since God probably presents itself in multiple forms and definitely isn't merely a European centric thing.
I mean some of the yama kings are well gods in myths which I assume can and do exist to some extent in dresden if very limited in actions.
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okay easy is an overestimation of other peoples skills extracting shit from demons or even fae for their true names can be hard its not an easy thing. Its not impossible mind you its not most sane peoples go to though.
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It is and it isn't. Especially before chronicles of darkness lots of werewolves still practice some amazingly reprehensible traditions.
Like Red Talons eating human their human babies, because they are insane.
This made me laugh.
If anything we would pick up this charm as a defense against that. A phone thats possessed and under our control would be marginally harder to turn against us than one out in the wild.
OK... why can't they do it to Jim the New-made Phone spirit? I mean if something is network hopping no matter its origin it could be trapped. If your problem is 'demons can be subverted by a sorcerer who knows enough about magic' the same is true of all spirits
These are demons so weak an ordinary mortal stepping on them can kill them.
Bob definitely fits as a Spirit, but a spirit of intellect is much higher than a least god.
Those are stuff like individual blades of grass, bullets, trees, etc.
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are red talons not wyrm infected?
We just need the Shintai feature that can give telekinesis...
Although I'd fluff it as Diablo angels style prehensile energy wings made of green fire, that may just be me.
Nope, very Wyld, because White Wolf.
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And making them spirits would not make them any stronger.... while it would make them less canny. If anything they are harder to subvert this way since they have the experience of being worms under the boot in the Wicked City
Except they can't as without the charm empowering the objects spirit, they lose their intelligence, and go back to being regular objects. You could awaken them later but they would not recall anything not on a hard drive. They don't have minds to remember things, without the charm giving them true intelligence. If they are captured and tortured to betray us the charm ends, and information security is maintained.
The demons do have minds and can recall information without the charm empowering them.
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except those with some form of intellectus that would inform them its fair to assume even those with intellectus wouldn't know in this case. Maybe mother winter does shes kind of a non factor on mortal level though.