Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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This charm was never supposed to be a free-form build thing. We're several major rule changes in to the charm becoming something that allows that with little definition on the details.
I'm not trying to be uncompromising here, but I don't see the benefit of being vaguer on this. TTON doesn't nail everything down, but it does set terms. This budget to spend in that power system, this risk type of risk for that type of action. It can otherwise fill the same rolls.
What would you even want to do with SGI + IDU that involves more than essence level * 10 dots of additional merits/gifts on top of passive charms? That's already crazy enough.
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Since the @BronzeTongue version doesn't block future increases with the charms already allowed by QM, I don't really mind them winning. Otherwise I will be very unhappy.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
So here is what our Clones have, regardless of which Clone Charm wins.
Ox Body - Hlvls. We have two so they are as tanky as Molly.
Impervious Primacy Mantle - Immunity to all effects that force them to betray their intimacy. This includes their Loyalty to Molly.
By Rage Recast - This is a ??? By Default, all beings have Essence 1 in Exalted. Here, if they have it or not is the question. If they do, they can roll 1 Dice at Difficulty 7 to gain either Agg damage or Flight.
By Pain Reforged - reduces all wound penalties by one and other benifits like bashing overflowing into lethal. Not that useful but good enough.
Scar-Writ Saga Shield - permanently lowers the difficulty of all soak rolls by one.
CCC - -3 Difficulty to all actions when trapped.
Shadow Spite Curse - Look at something funny and reduce their dice pool.
Without Honor, Without Hope - Immunity to cold and +2 Dice when cold. Can tank magic frost at -2.
Tool-Transcending Constructs - Work five times faster or ten times faster than normal. Can't make tools as that needs 1 Essence.
Constructive Convergence of Principles - Can Craft Splendors, Devices, Prodigies and Prodigies. No Excellencies though but great as a Helper, with CCC and Without Honor.
Source Code Compliance Protocol - Rolls Willpower against difficulty 7. Success allows her to speak all languages.
Charred Sinner Renewal - Unparallelled recovery.
Boiling Sea Mastery - Too many to count but -1 difficulty when wet is the most important.
Rendered Villain Dispersal - Vanish into liquids. Very useful when used with Charred SR.
Demonic Primacy of Essence - 2 Difficulty against CoDs.
Transcendent Lord of Flies - Reduces difficulty to protect others in places of desolation by -3. Other benefits as well.
Mercy in Servitude - Minion protection.
Wind-Born Stride - tripled movement speed.
Murder is meat - Yeah, THIS is a passive.
THEN they get
Qiao and Sorcery. Not Ancient Sorcery but Alchemy and others such as Counterspell: Human.
I repeat that this also applies to the custom charms as well and as we get more passives, this increases as well.
Ox Body - Hlvls. We have two so they are as tanky as Molly.
Impervious Primacy Mantle - Immunity to all effects that force them to betray their intimacy. This includes their Loyalty to Molly.
By Rage Recast - This is a ??? By Default, all beings have Essence 1 in Exalted. Here, if they have it or not is the question. If they do, they can roll 1 Dice at Difficulty 7 to gain either Agg damage or Flight.
By Pain Reforged - reduces all wound penalties by one and other benifits like bashing overflowing into lethal. Not that useful but good enough.
Scar-Writ Saga Shield - permanently lowers the difficulty of all soak rolls by one.
CCC - -3 Difficulty to all actions when trapped.
Shadow Spite Curse - Look at something funny and reduce their dice pool.
Without Honor, Without Hope - Immunity to cold and +2 Dice when cold. Can tank magic frost at -2.
Tool-Transcending Constructs - Work five times faster or ten times faster than normal. Can't make tools as that needs 1 Essence.
Constructive Convergence of Principles - Can Craft Splendors, Devices, Prodigies and Prodigies. No Excellencies though but great as a Helper, with CCC and Without Honor.
Source Code Compliance Protocol - Rolls Willpower against difficulty 7. Success allows her to speak all languages.
Charred Sinner Renewal - Unparallelled recovery.
Boiling Sea Mastery - Too many to count but -1 difficulty when wet is the most important.
Rendered Villain Dispersal - Vanish into liquids. Very useful when used with Charred SR.
Demonic Primacy of Essence - 2 Difficulty against CoDs.
Transcendent Lord of Flies - Reduces difficulty to protect others in places of desolation by -3. Other benefits as well.
Mercy in Servitude - Minion protection.
Wind-Born Stride - tripled movement speed.
Murder is meat - Yeah, THIS is a passive.
THEN they get
Qiao and Sorcery. Not Ancient Sorcery but Alchemy and others such as Counterspell: Human.
I repeat that this also applies to the custom charms as well and as we get more passives, this increases as well.
BoredMan
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That's a passive? I could've sworn we spent essence to activate that before.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
It was the other charm. Not this one.
We pay essence for 10x speed 3x is a permanent passive.
You forgot ignore 1 for key abilities, and Lord of the Land within Sanctuary as well. One of the reasons I want a clones so one can spend time opening the wastes so the local can mine massive amount of resources without issues.
From where Molly is standing as one of the Celestial Exalted it is minor alchemy
Wastes are already being explored and used and lived in
Vote closed.
If a sliver of your soul can't go and beat up a bunch of vampires for its recreational needs are even an Infernal?
White God in this crossover has Archangels as his 3rd circle demons. As far as I understand at least. So Molly has a lot of growing to do.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
So with the votes locked, I really want to give the clones True Faith lvl 10.
This Protects them from a LOT of issues like mindcontrol, posession etc and gives them a grab bag amount of powers from healing to exorcism, allowing them to fight back against CoDs and other evil beings like the fallen. Even exercise possessions like thd fallen without a ritual.
Simply put? It is VERY useful.
This Protects them from a LOT of issues like mindcontrol, posession etc and gives them a grab bag amount of powers from healing to exorcism, allowing them to fight back against CoDs and other evil beings like the fallen. Even exercise possessions like thd fallen without a ritual.
Simply put? It is VERY useful.
I'm pretty sure True Faith is one of the few things you can't just give. Ever. Crafting an Exaltation probably would be easier.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
No such limitation about it in the books.
Besides which, the Clones having true faith in Molly mirrors the Primordial Soul Hierarchy with Mollh being ghd literal Empress.
Even otherwise? The Clones are undergoing character Creation so it can be purchased.
So what are you going to use to give them True Faith? Cause I don't remember anything that mentions being able to give it.
That's ignoring that them having faith in Molly is like your toe having faith in the leg.
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eh even the primordials used faith.
I get what you're getting at but you do know True Faith is a largely internal property right it doesn't rely on outside factors to be effective. If these hunks of Molly soul and her intimacies believe her to be the be all and end all and draw strength from that belief that's it they have True Faith it doesn't matter if that's like a toe having faith in a leg the toe believing the leg to be the greatest and the strongest and it being greater for being a part of that leg is enough.
Nah, it's a nightmare balance.
As far as I remember they didn't give True Faith to anyone. In fact that was one of their problems in the long run. If they could have just made perfect True Faith generators instead of humans they would have done so.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
Here is the blurb on it.
They have a permanent and strong loyalty to Molly.
Simply put? You can purchase it in character creation and it is a merit. Guess what? The clones get Essence x10 BP to spend on merits and gifts at 1 Dot per Point. So they can absolutely purchase it to 10 at creation.
There is still a question of them being able to have Faith since the version of the clone charm that won doesn't give you humans with memories of the exalt but explicitly parts of their soul.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
And Molly cannot have faith in herself?
There is no limit in who can have it. By canon Vampires have true faith. So there is nothing wrong in Molly having True faith in herself or even in God. She was raised by Michel and Charity after all.
True but it is a lot easier when the area is a calm summer day, and not death without a hard suit. Not to mention mining the massive resource mountains.
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