Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[X] Invite Charity to Sanctuary after performing a giga-hug on her.
-[X] Stunt: "Can we take a short trip real quick? Dad's already seen it, but you haven't gotten the full Sanctuary experience yet."
--[X] After the initial Sanctuary introduction: "This is all me, mom. And the me you're talking to is me, and so is Pods - ugh, that name! I'm gonna call her Polly from now on. It's not that you see a shadow or a puppet when you look at me, just a small part of a greater whole. There's a lot of Molly to go around these days.
---[X] "And look on the bright side, the brighter side, I should say, this latest hiccup should alleviate a lot of your worries about me going out and fighting monsters. Now that I'm in more than one place at any given time, I'm even harder to kill than I was before, and that bar was already pretty high."
 
[X] Invite Charity to Sanctuary after performing a giga-hug on her.
-[X] Stunt: "Can we take a short trip real quick? Dad's already seen it, but you haven't gotten the full Sanctuary experience yet."
--[X] After the initial Sanctuary introduction: "This is all me, mom. And the me you're talking to is me, and so is Pods - ugh, that name! I'm gonna call her Polly from now on. It's not that you see a shadow or a puppet when you look at me, just a small part of a greater whole. There's a lot of Molly to go around these days.
---[X] "And look on the bright side, the brighter side, I should say, this latest hiccup should alleviate a lot of your worries about me going out and fighting monsters. Now that I'm in more than one place at any given time, I'm even harder to kill than I was before, and that bar was already pretty high."
 
maybe add something from this if you want.

-a parent will never see all aspects of tir child once they leave,this is natural
-despite everything,we love this. we are happy,curious,excited. we have the life we always wanted,( colorscheme notwithstanding)
-if we could back in time to that tree, and safe ourselves without accepting the exaltation,we wouldnt
-everyone needts to grow up. we grew more than others.
 
I like this one a lot. We never actually took Charity to Sanctuary yet.

[X] Invite Charity to Sanctuary after performing a giga-hug on her.
-[X] Stunt: "Can we take a short trip real quick? Dad's already seen it, but you haven't gotten the full Sanctuary experience yet."
--[X] After the initial Sanctuary introduction: "This is all me, mom. And the me you're talking to is me, and so is Pods - ugh, that name! I'm gonna call her Polly from now on. It's not that you see a shadow or a puppet when you look at me, just a small part of a greater whole. There's a lot of Molly to go around these days.
---[X] "And look on the bright side, the brighter side, I should say, this latest hiccup should alleviate a lot of your worries about me going out and fighting monsters. Now that I'm in more than one place at any given time, I'm even harder to kill than I was before, and that bar was already pretty high."
 
I genuinely genuinely would despise us getting that many charms in the clones.

It doesn't make sense and is stupid, also pointless.


I think the clones should be humans and if that means sacrificing passive charms then so be it. The most i want to accept is the intimacy one and only because people are paranoid.
 
I genuinely genuinely would despise us getting that many charms in the clones.

It doesn't make sense and is stupid, also pointless.


I think the clones should be humans and if that means sacrificing passive charms then so be it. The most i want to accept is the intimacy one and only because people are paranoid.
I think it's unlikely to break the game if they have these powers. What I want to understand is why you want to nerf them? Just as it stands now, I think they turn out stronger than the original, but the original would be just and only a respawn option in our paradigm. And it's giga boring.

[X] Invite Charity to Sanctuary after performing a giga-hug on her.
-[X] Stunt: "Can we take a short trip real quick? Dad's already seen it, but you haven't gotten the full Sanctuary experience yet."
--[X] After the initial Sanctuary introduction: "This is all me, mom. And the me you're talking to is me, and so is Pods - ugh, that name! I'm gonna call her Polly from now on. It's not that you see a shadow or a puppet when you look at me, just a small part of a greater whole. There's a lot of Molly to go around these days.
---[X] "And look on the bright side, the brighter side, I should say, this latest hiccup should alleviate a lot of your worries about me going out and fighting monsters. Now that I'm in more than one place at any given time, I'm even harder to kill than I was before, and that bar was already pretty high."
 
I genuinely genuinely would despise us getting that many charms in the clones.

It doesn't make sense and is stupid, also pointless.


I think the clones should be humans and if that means sacrificing passive charms then so be it. The most i want to accept is the intimacy one and only because people are paranoid.

[x] [Splintered Gale Incarnation] A thousand titles, one name v3
[x] [Splintered Gale Incarnation] A thousand titles, one name v4
This you. Voting for the charm that essentially makes our version of Liger the green sun of fucking Malfeas. My brother in Christ if you wanted normal humans you should have picked Splintered Gale as cannon.
 
I think it's unlikely to break the game if they have these powers. What I want to understand is why you want to nerf them? Just as it stands now, I think they turn out stronger than the original, but the original would be just and only a respawn option in our paradigm. And it's giga boring
Because they get too many charms, like its pretty clear. We are just making copies of molly at that point, might as well give the rest of them to her.
This you. Voting for the charm that essentially makes our version of Liger the green sun of fucking Malfeas. My brother in Christ if you wanted normal humans you should have picked Splintered Gale as cannon
This you. Voting for the charm that essentially makes our version of Liger the green sun of fucking Malfeas. My brother in Christ if you wanted normal humans you should have picked Splintered Gale as cannon.
Not the same, merits and gifts are different and more cooler and unique.
 
I think I now know where the confusion comes from when talking about canon I had previously said the charms would only work on battle clones from signature charms, but since you guys voted for the v4 Charm, yeah you get the effects. Just be aware that even with all of those, your enemies can still do more and those clones are probably going to be targets (i.e. maybe a place where combat will work just fine while I figure out enemies to challenge Molly Prime :V )
 
So.. We need to install suicide charges into the clones in case they get snatched and use IDU on them. Too bad we didn't get V3 which would've had an escape to Hell option built in.
 
So.. We need to install suicide charges into the clones in case they get snatched and use IDU on them. Too bad we didn't get V3 which would've had an escape to Hell option built in.

I mean you can, but it comes with the issue that they might be detected, not to mention that you would then be left with the options of

A) Destroying the body but at the risk of nearby civilians
or
B) just killing the clone but also risking the body being used by whatever caused the clone to press the button

While the death itself will not unduly affect you they would still provide a very high quality thaumaturgic connection to you and especially to that clone. Sure they cannot have their intimacies warped directly, but there are other things one can do with black magic.
 
While the death itself will not unduly affect you they would still provide a very high quality thaumaturgic connection to you and especially to that clone. Sure they cannot have their intimacies warped directly, but there are other things one can do with black magic.
:facepalm:Thanks for the reminder on how horrible the idea of buying a clone charm to begin with is.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Anaja on Jun 6, 2024 at 2:22 PM, finished with 38 posts and 12 votes.

  • [X] Invite Charity to Sanctuary after performing a giga-hug on her.
    -[X] Stunt: "Can we take a short trip real quick? Dad's already seen it, but you haven't gotten the full Sanctuary experience yet."
    --[X] After the initial Sanctuary introduction: "This is all me, mom. And the me you're talking to is me, and so is Pods - ugh, that name! I'm gonna call her Polly from now on. It's not that you see a shadow or a puppet when you look at me, just a small part of a greater whole. There's a lot of Molly to go around these days.
    ---[X] "And look on the bright side, the brighter side, I should say, this latest hiccup should alleviate a lot of your worries about me going out and fighting monsters. Now that I'm in more than one place at any given time, I'm even harder to kill than I was before, and that bar was already pretty high."
    [X] Call Uriel thrice by the name he gave from his own lips, he will hear you, he will come you are sure of it, he can explain himself.
    [X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
    -[X] Mom, you can see me just fine. Unless you mean to say I've never seen you, I don't know the young woman who fell into the wrong crowd and got kidnapped by a dragon does that mean I've never seen you? I don't know who dad was before he picked up the sword does that mean I've never seen him? Everyone shows a different face in different situations this is I will admit considerably more magical than that but it's the same phenomenon the face you show to me is different from the one you show to leech, the face you show to Harry is different from the one you show to Harry and that's okay. To say you cannot see me now is to say you've never seen me. Even if some of the features that you cannot see as before are now geographical rather then just emotional.
    [X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
    -[x] Mom, you can see me just fine. Unless you mean to say I've never seen you, I don't know the young woman who fell into the wrong crowd and got kidnapped by a dragon does that mean I've never seen you? I don't know who dad was before he picked up the sword does that mean I've never seen him? Everyone shows a different face in different situations this is I will admit considerably more magical than that but it's the same phenomenon the face you show it to me is different from the one you show to leech, the face you show to Harry is different from the one you show to Harry and that's okay. To say you cannot see me now is to say you've never seen me. Even if some of the features that you cannot see as before are now geographical rather then just emotional.
    —[x] And if that still does not help you… there are ways, places, treasures, feats, and bargains that would let you see all of me, but… all of them cost something, and most would require becoming… more than mortal, if not more than human.
    —-[x] I could call Uriel here if answers from their lips are what you require, but I'm not sure that's what I really want, is it mother?
    [X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
 
We have a shaping defense, so no cursing us, they have a shaping defense, so no cursing them either.

What is the enemy going to do? Find where we are? Doesn't help that much.

I don't think Black magic actually works here.
They have a mind defense that keeps them from being mind controlled or their intimacies from changing they don't actually possess a shaping defense.
 
DragonParadox literally just said... Nevermind man.

He said you can do other things with black magic than specifically warping intimiacies, thing is, the immense majority of those things fall under shaping, so don't work.

They have a mind defense that keeps them from being mind controlled or their intimacies from changing they don't actually possess a shaping defense.

I think, they can apply charms to themselves in this version of the charm, and that means shaping defenses.
 
We have a shaping defense, so no cursing us, they have a shaping defense, so no cursing them either.

What is the enemy going to do? Find where we are? Doesn't help that much.

I don't think Black magic actually works here.

You do indeed have IPP which works by reflexively burning motes or willpower, both of which are finite resources. If someone could say sit in a ritual chamber two hundred miles away and fling curses at you a dozen times in quick succession while their friends are taking you on in person, that is a problem from a tactical PoV.
 
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He said you can do other things with black magic than specifically warping intimiacies, thing is, the immense majority of those things fall under shaping, so don't work.




I think, they can apply charms to themselves in this version of the charm, and that means shaping defenses.
They have our passive charms which means essentially they possess a really hearty body from all of our Ox bodies speed and willpower Galore but they don't have Essence with which to use our shaping defense. The Mind defense works on Willpower alone they can use it and they will probably use it but someone attempting to turn them into a pickle is just going to run into admittedly a near maximum counter magic pool but you know only count to Magic not a perfect defense.
 
If we go with the trip to Sanctuary to reassure Mom that there's just more of us at this point, then I could see her wanting a subscription to some sort of Sanctuary newspaper to start with so that she can feel like she's being properly involved and connected with that part of us and our life.
 
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