Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[X] I killed it (Lay public claim to having killed a Walker with all the attention and the fear that engenders)
-[x]"Yes, it tasted interesting to say the least. I wonder how the rest of the buffet tastes."
 
[X] I killed it (Lay public claim to having killed a Walker with all the attention and the fear that engenders)
-[X] "Honestly, it seems like Walkers are overrated. That wasn't even my third toughest fight in the past year."
 
Honestly, it seems like Walkers are overrated. That wasn't even my third toughest fight in the past year."
That would probably make Molly sound childish. Not to mention we got lucky with counterspell rolls and the first Outsider was killed by Mab. So they aren't exactly overated for us either, even it doesn't look like it from the Outside looking in.
 
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Maybe we should use MHM to stack up all the bodies in the shape of a throne? To make a very bunt metaphor.
 
Yet another Arc down. I get a kick out of being able to diplomatically handle the lady at church being more of an accomplishment than changing Harry's mind on cyber-demons, learning about Gard's history, or making peaceful contact with the Dragon Nest's guardian.

Not every vote went how I would have voted, but I'm still overall liking how we're playing it so far as I catch up.
 
You think that is showing respect? I was mocking. Also doing some anti recovery by renaming it to something lessor.
Initially it read like you were trying to give more pomp to his death yeah.

Honestly it's bad as both; it's taking itself so seriously that it's actually wrapping back around to taking something out of the moment.

Claiming it's dead is good enough, giving it a name is potentially more intimidating, this just isn't.
 
We came here to make a point.

[X] I killed it (Lay public claim to having killed a Walker with all the attention and the fear that engenders)
 
[X] I killed it (Lay public claim to having killed a Walker with all the attention and the fear that engenders)
-[X] "He Who Walks Unbowed walks no more."
 
Ask @DragonParadox after we have our Hell can we use Calling the Calibration Gate to open a gate for him? Or when we go to him in the manner described by the charm, could we use this sorcery to open a gate from him back to the human world?
 
Ask @DragonParadox after we have our Hell can we use Calling the Calibration Gate to open a gate for him? Or when we go to him in the manner described by the charm, could we use this sorcery to open a gate from him back to the human world?
Why would we want to do that if we even could?

I'm pretty sure we can't because the charm was modified to be soul murder instead of imprisonment, and even if it wasn't he'd be in the thousand hells instead of our currently nonexistent one, but seriously Outsiders are bad news.
 
Why would we want to do that if we even could?

I'm pretty sure we can't because the charm was modified to be soul murder instead of imprisonment, and even if it wasn't he'd be in the thousand hells instead of our currently nonexistent one, but seriously Outsiders are bad news.
I vaguely remember DP or someone else saying that he would be in NeverNever along with the other realms, (A Thousand Hells, Fairie etc) so our world could be invaded from there or our servants could go there.

With the Gate we could summon attack parties or send more people to hide inside if we needed to. It's my suggestion on how to get our future soldiers to us the easiest way.

The fairies and others can deploy their soldiers from the NeverNever to the human world or vice versa easily and we can't unless there is a future change.
 
I vaguely remember DP or someone else saying that he would be in NeverNever along with the other realms, (A Thousand Hells, Fairie etc) so our world could be invaded from there or our servants could go there.

With the Gate we could summon attack parties or send more people to hide inside if we needed to. It's my suggestion on how to get our future soldiers to us the easiest way.

The fairies and others can deploy their soldiers from the NeverNever to the human world or vice versa easily and we can't unless there is a future change.
He being who? Because in this context I thought you were talking about the walker we just killed and not foot soldier demons with that first post.

As to the other thing, yes and no:

Your Kingdom is not in the Nevernever, it is a world soul spun of your own essence in imitation of demiurges ancient beyond words, It can be reached from the Nevernever since it is also a hell which means it should be possible for souls to escape from there and become Jade Court Vampires, but it is not made of the substance of that realm. The best comparison in canon WoD I can think of is the Hollow Earth which is both a spirit realm, but also a place where you can go as a fully corporeal being by digging down.

My read is that it's more like a new shed in reality's backyard than a new room in the house in some ways.
 
He being who? Because in this context I thought you were talking about the walker we just killed and not foot soldier demons with that first post.
He as our Hell

"I vaguely remember DP or someone else saying that our Hell would be in NeverNever along with the other realms, (A Thousand Hells, Fairie etc) so our world could be invaded from there or our servants could go there."

My read is that it's more like a new shed in reality's backyard than a new room in the house in some ways.
Hmm...I think I agree with you on that. Thanks for explaining.
 
If you want to find circle mates look at the origin of your powers
Organizing an expedition and excavating more infernal shards is on my to-do list. People seem hesitant, however.

[X] I killed it (Lay public claim to having killed a Walker with all the attention and the fear that engenders)

Those with senses to know already know. They are the ones that truly matter.

"I vaguely remember DP or someone else saying that our Hell would be in NeverNever along with the other realms, (A Thousand Hells, Fairie etc) so our world could be invaded from there or our servants could go there."
Our kingdom is in our anima / soul, and is not part of NeverNever (so, for example, eating food there doesn't create a risk of your body turning into ectoplasm and being unable to function in reality for a prolonged period of time). It might be accessible from NeverNever, however.

As to the Walker, it's gone. Completely destroyed. Murder is Meat has been refluffed as a spirit killer.
 
[X] I killed it (Lay public claim to having killed a Walker with all the attention and the fear that engenders)

The Elder Whamps know, word will spread, the other Walkers are gonna know no matter what we do, unless we pull off the classic Stealthy Infernal 'Subtle Like Nuclear Holocaust' technique and massacre everybody in the room. Good ol' nobody can know what you did if everybody who knows is dead!
 
Organizing an expedition and excavating more infernal shards is on my to-do list. People seem hesitant, however.
Finding other Exalted is a no brainier because if Exalted exist then we really want to be aware of who they are and what they are doing, but finding shards is more iffy since there is no way to control who they go to.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Yzarc on Jul 15, 2023 at 11:04 PM, finished with 57 posts and 36 votes.
 
[X] I killed it (Lay public claim to having killed a Walker with all the attention and the fear that engenders)

Those of real risk to us (the elders/those of greatest power) already know the truth, might as well make clear to the rest our capabilities so that they clearly understand we are not on a power level they can mess with.
 
there is no way to control who they go to.
This is very arguable. A half-brained scheme by Kakuri servants, using very incomplete understanding of what an exaltation is, a ritual made on a shoestring budget and a very tight timeline, and working against an actively hostile active exaltation had a chance of success. A low chance, but a chance still.

A proper setup made by an actual infernal exalted, with significant prep-time, Ancient Sorcery and charms, and involving both a non-hostile exaltation and carefully selected and prepared candidate has far more chances, I feel.

I wouldn't bet on being able to select hosts for a solar exaltation, but Infernal ones are special. They have sapient coajutors, who we should be able to actually talk and bargain with, and who might be able to be convinced to side with us / exalt our allies (as long as they are actually suitable for exaltation). Especially if we are the ones to excavate them and give them a chance.

[X] I killed it (Lay public claim to having killed a Walker with all the attention and the fear that engenders)

[X] Crown questions after the fighting ends
-[X] Occult excellency and ATB
-[X] Using the body of the sacrifice "Who is the Empyreal Chaos spoken of by the being summoned through this sacrifice?"
-[X] Using the bodyguard "What were the plans of the being they fought alongside with and tried to protect?"
-[X] Using a random party goes of no importance "what was the non-human language heard by this person during the fight?"


I am not letting the questions get away from me.
 
This is very arguable. A half-brained scheme by Kakuri servants, using very incomplete understanding of what an exaltation is, a ritual made on a shoestring budget and a very tight timeline, and working against an actively hostile active exaltation had a chance of success. A low chance, but a chance still.

A proper setup made by an actual infernal exalted, with significant prep-time, Ancient Sorcery and charms, and involving both a non-hostile exaltation and carefully selected and prepared candidate has far more chances, I feel.

I wouldn't bet on being able to select hosts for a solar exaltation, but Infernal ones are special. They have sapient coajutors, who we should be able to actually talk and bargain with, and who might be able to be convinced to side with us / exalt our allies (as long as they are actually suitable for exaltation). Especially if we are the ones to excavate them and give them a chance.
Let's say you are right who would you propose as our candidates?
 
Let's say you are right who would you propose as our candidates?
So, that's actually a very good question. So, let's see the criteria for an infernal exaltation:
Infernal Exaltation only visits itself upon people
who meet three criteria.
First, the individual must be in some way excep-
tional. Many Infernals were world-class experts in their
field, even before Exaltation, but skill and prowess are
not the only measures by which the Chosen of Ruin
may gain profane notice. Extraordinary courage, con-
viction, or willpower are also all common features
which are likely to draw the Exaltation to an individual.
Second, they must have encountered the supernatu-
ral world at some point in their lives and recognized it as
such. The Infernal Exaltation has no time to waste with
the uninitiated; the apocalypse looms, and the sooner
the newly-empowered Demon Prince pulls down the pil-
lars of Heaven, the sooner she can ascend its rubble to
take her rightful place as Demon Emperor or Empress.
And so the Infernal Exalted are drawn exclusively from
the ranks of those who have beheld witches dancing at
their black Sabbaths and making offerings of blood to
the gods of old; who have seen the monstrous beings in
the deepest offices and laboratories of Pentex facilities;
who have laid themselves prostrate before a vampire and
begged to feel again the ecstasy of his fangs.
Finally, the individual must feel in her heart of
hearts that she has failed to grasp her dreams, or has
attained and squandered them, and that her life is a fail-
ure. Despair is the beacon that guides the Infernal Exal-
tations, and they can only infuse their stolen and twist-
ed power into the hearts of the weak and the wounded.
I am, to be honest, unsure if we have anyone truly fitting. We generally work hard to prevent people in our monkeysphere from feeling like failures.

Harry might fit a tiny bit, even if he's more of a Solar. Olivia might also work. However, my best answer would be - once we get our kingdom, look through its population to find a suitable candidate.
 
I'm pretty sure DP said the only other active Exaltation he had planned to be outside the Vault is a Sidereal? And obviously opening the Vault isn't going to give us any control over anything, it's too big, so we should be more focused on potential Sidereal candidates.

… which is one of the hardest Exalted types to predict in terms of potential hosts, even without throwing in the extra variable of not knowing which cast we're dealing with. Don't know how that works out. Unless someone has ideas?
 
[X] It's gone (Only those with the senses to feel it will know you slew the Walker)

Molly made a promise to not be incautious with her ability to kill the unkillable, boasting about it breaks the spirit of that promise.
 
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