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I'd like to use them as a focus to learn who murdered his family though. Make it a side quest for the future! uh later that is need that essence.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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We do have minions that should be able to do most of the leg work if we can give them a name and location. It doesn't seem like his family was taken out by heavy hitters.
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fuck it if we really wanna go full villain give him the chance to kill them after capturing them.
Molly tried to get Michael, he was Called, which is to say mission from God, Forthil was in the winning vote and as for Thomas he was there as backup in case the social rolls failed.
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Is michael gonna help build these people up? Cause I feel bad for them. Could probably also give them a primer on the supernatural.
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I wonder what B plot Mikelle was called to because that is how this sort of thing generally works out.
He would be willing to try, but that is not really his skillset, True Faith is not miracles in a can. While it can manifest as extraordinary boons beyond the scope of mortal magic, most of what Michael can do is focused on making him a better Knight. What does that mean? Well he can counter-spell, banish possessing entities, bolster wards and speak from the heart.
Note that none of these things are 'deprogram thralls'. For the most part that does not exist. Fine thralls like Elaine can heal on their own, or they can be healed by those beings with the skill and inclination to work powerful mind magic like the fey, but these guys and one assumes the rest of their order are... marginal. They are almost as screwed up as Molly's former boyfriend, just in a more focussed way because whatever did this to them wanted killers.
- Father Forthil knows of some places that might take them if they are willing.
- Usum suggests putting demons in them, no not just because it would expand your power, because the demon would be a stabilizing core to their frayed minds. As long as they then served you per Mercy in Servitude they should be... better.
I am genuinely tempted to just leave the choice to them and to see how many decide to take what option.
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probably don't suggest the demon thing.
I'll note his job as a knight is supposed to be redemption and he does genuinely try in the books its even shown he's almost succeeded once or twice from what we've seen. Hes also got really good charisma and empathy as far as I know right?
It it supposed to the the redemption of the denarians specifically, he is not an all purpose mind healer.
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I mean it definitely has made him more empathetic and charismatic though. It should at the very least let him make good speeches. Also I don't think its much the role that makes it so michael is good at these things. So I doubt its only good for those people specifically.
Oh sure, he is rolling social dice at the upper range of mortal ability and unlike most people who only get their intimacy bonuses to willpower, knights of the cross can use those dice when pursuing an intimacy like say redeeming a lost soul. It's kind of like stunting mechanically though the source and narrative implications are different
Fair on the call thing. The rest is still weird to me, but I guess I just didn't read either stunt the way you did.
Doesn't really matter at this point anyway, we got as much as we could reasonably hope for already.
And thank god he didn't.
It's sad he's a victim now, but solaroid vengeance quest isn't an argument for opening the vault.
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Moot point as soon as we get our kingdom.
That and I didnt want to spend Essence on using the Crown on them.
Interrogate first, then if necessary use the Crown to fill in the gaps.
No, you are mistaken.
We couldnt see Lash because she wasnt active; if she was we would have. Explicitly stated.
Active Whampire magic should show up in their thralls.
The quotes are there from last week. If you want me to dig them up, I will.
Thats not how it works. Martyrdom is dying for the faith. Suicide is not.
Its entirely fine to take an action you know that will lead/result to your death if there's a primary purpose behind it.
Its not just to die. Even jihadi suicide bombers do so with the aim of killing the enemy, with their own deaths being secondary. They dont do it to avoid interrogation.
Dude just tried to off himself. Thats either severe depression or mindfuckery.
And the latest update confirms elements of both.
Thank you for the citation.
Fair enough.
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So both thralls. Called it. Good odds all of the Ants are thralls. Actual religion or religious denomination irrelevant.
Initiation video suggests that most, if not all of the Ants are responsible for at least one civilian murder apiece.
Good chance we can link every Ant member to at least one murder. And good chance that particular rifle has been used before.
Im a lot less charitable all of a sudden. Still victims, but not innocents.
Some White Court vampire had the unmitigated gall to actually impersonate a preacher of the White God in order to prey on people. In a world where Knights of the Cross are a thing, and agents of the White God is like public knowledge in the supernatural?
Thats like standing on top of a hill, flying a metal kite in a thunderstorm while screaming "All gods are bastards."
Lara is going to skin him alive on general principles; anyone who knows the Old Testament would do the same thing.
If we dont get to him first.
She would. She's undoubtedly read the Old Testament, and she has the Denarians as a low-end benchmark for the potential damage drawing the personal attention of Heaven might bring.
Dude is literally taunting the White God by using his religion as a cover for recruiting and feeding on humans, and then compromising their free will. Many times this passes without reaction. Sometimes chastisement is delayed.
Sometimes the reaction annihilates everyone involved, root and branch.
There's a reason the White Court went into media instead of religion, despite their aptitudes being very good at that sort of thing.
That the Knight of the Cross in Chicago isnt harassed. That Father Forthill goes unmolested.
The White Court want none of that smoke.
Even if the White God took no action itself? Other powerful spirits might, on general principles.And the prospect of tripping over and pushing the Catholic Church, or the Anglican Communion, or the Baptist Conference into a more proactive stance risks damage the White Court cant afford, especially since such a conflict would see other enemies and rivals take the opportunity to jump them.
The Catholics still maintain exorcists IRL after all, and we know OOC that the Malleus Maleficarum still exists in the Dresdenverse.
And its not the only such Church-affiliated organization, if the RPG is canon here.
Fuck around and find out.
Essentially this.
Once our Hell is up and running, simply toss them over and into longterm care. If and when they are fixed, bring them back.
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Yes, let's check the quotes, shall we?
See bolded underlined parts. A non-CoD soul acts as a shield against Hellscry Chakra. If these guys were possessed by a CoD spirit, and the spirit was actively interfering with the outside world, including forcing control over their bodies, we'd be able to get something. Spirit riding, remote sensing or just magic? No, Hellscry chakra doesn't work like that. Hell, for magic in general Hellscry chakra doesn't work like that. These guys could be dominated completely, but we still wouldn't be able to see their auras, because they aren't CoDs.
What part of "holy crusade" are you not getting? Serious question. Killing yourself to prevent yourself being captured and allowing enemy to get intelligence is martyrdom in one of the purest forms. It's a form of resisting your enemy.
Worth noting that Heaven isn't limited to knights, smiting, and exorcists. Rube Goldberg has nothing on Uriel and his pals.
The divine intervention that blows up your plot and scalds everyone associated with it might not even obviously have the White God's stamp on it, but it's still a mess.
Pretty sure that you can apply your True Faith score as well to applicable situations if necessary.
Both social, and otherwise.
But True Faith isnt exclusive to Knights.
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Here's the wiki:
True Faith
True Faith is a power held by the truly devout. With True Faith, for example, a brandished cross can have an effect on a vampire, fallen, mage, werewolf, wraith or changeling instead of being merely an empty symbol of the creed. Faith can come from many different beliefs, such as Christianity...
whitewolf.fandom.com
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BoredMan
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@DragonParadox Wasn't the last vote tied?
Literally, your own quote:
Lash isnt directly modifying anything we can see, so she doesnt ping.
Vampire magic directly interacting with/modifying the behavior of a person in front of you would be considered a viable focus.
Vampire remote-projecting its spirit into the room using the thrall as a beacon would also ping.
Or if, say, Nemesis was riding some human, which is a situation thats of potential shortterm relevance.
Christianity does not work that way, as a cursory look at the history of acknowledged Christian martyrs(that I know of) will tell you.
I have Muslim friends, have had Muslim roomates and have had the privilege of being hosted by a Muslim friend's family when I was last outside the US, and Islam does not work that way.
I have no personal knowledge of Judaism, but judging from the Old Testament, Judaism does not work that way either.
I have nothing more than superficial knowledge of Buddhism or Hinduism, so maybe that is correct for those.
But for the three Abrahamic religions, thats not true.
You cant just have someone kill themselves to avoid difficulty and claim martyrdom.
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fictionfan
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How close is the kingdom achievements so far
- Saved Hope from a fall.
- Done well in school (a more unlikely achievement than it would first appear)
- Made ourselves hidden wireless earbuds to make sure that the devil can always whisper in our ear.
- Helped out Rosie with her family.
- Introduced Rosie to Isabella. (I will admit a bit of a reach)
- Proved yourself a real friend to Dr Jackson by disposing a body for her.
- Uncovered the conspiracy behind the attack on Dr Jackson.
- Found the cover up for the conspiracy behind the attack on Dr Jackson funnily done afterwards and took more effort.
- Another harrowing talk with Murphy this time when we have a body in the trunk
- Interrogated a vampire ghost
- Tattle tailing to Lara
- Had a deep personal revelation about the nature of drugs
- Paid Harry to investigate a demon sword likely made from badly made (by Exalted standards) soulsteel.
- Handled a sniper with style
- Took care of the witness (in multiple ways)
??? Why would this guy get a solar shard. He is not really doing the greatness or the potential thing.
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In Ex vs WoD Exaltation candidates are people aware of the supernatural who would use the power an Exaltation gives them IIRC.
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I wish that we had invited Harry as our date now.