This is disproven by Obi-Wan Kenobi's meeting with Jango in canon. And by the interactions in the update, which shows an attitude quite different from what you are advocating as standard Jedi attitude towards a Mandalorian.
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KnightofTempest
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Exceptions to the rule, read your EU materials. . .
Be that as it may, and I disagree with your opinion btw, the quest has shown that the Jedi are willing to work with Jango. By your own logic, they wouldn't hesitate to arrest him if it was going to happen.
So my point stands: The Jedi aren't going to arrest him because they'd have done it already. So the only thing we should be worried about is the Sith Lord who wants us dead.
[X] He returns to Kamino.
We weren't hired to help them do a coup and it's bad for business to just give away your services for free. If they want our help couping the Republic they're going to need a fresh contract, right now we're just on the hook for delivering the army. Which we should go back and stand up instead of hanging around here waiting to get caught in the crossfire.
We weren't hired to help them do a coup and it's bad for business to just give away your services for free. If they want our help couping the Republic they're going to need a fresh contract, right now we're just on the hook for delivering the army. Which we should go back and stand up instead of hanging around here waiting to get caught in the crossfire.
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fear nothing. The Mandalorians were literally gearing up for another crusade. And the Jedi lead it, but it was the Republic who burned Mandalore because the Republic was sick and tired of this whole "moral high ground" shit with regards to yet another Mandalorian crusade.
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KnightofTempest
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Wrong.
The Republic Claimed that was what was happening, the Mandalorians were debating on what course of action to take. Some of them wanted to go on a crusade, some wanted to join the Republic, others wanted to be neutral.
The Republic attacked before the debate could be resolved
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Which, going by every bit of history would 'likely' have been yet another in a long list of crusades. On the ground it hadn't been decided, but sadly it is easy to see why come would view it as a forgone conclusion...
Plus, the Sith may have been fanning the flames to get them to blast apart the mandos.
KnightofTempest
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Except for the previous 1000 years when the Mandalorians had allied with the Republic against the Sith in the New Sth Wars.
Remember, the Mandalorians had switched sides to the Republic at the start of the New Sith Wars and stayed there until 7th Ruusan and the End of the Wars
Once the Sith Threat was 'gone' and the Mandalorians started to rebuild their forces though, the Republic decided it was excision time.
And the Jedi went along with, and even led it. . .
Granted, according to Filoni, it was a Lucas Mandate to do what they did to the Mandalorians for TCW and Lucas was notorious for not caring about what went on in the EU. So there's a disconnect there. . .
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...Things are murky, and I am honestly not sure at all what was going on during the excision either. Though in the case of the Jedi, they may have been starting to get knocked out of their complacency, at least cause of the while Galidran debacle where the jedi were unknowingly sent to be dumb muscle, exploiting the political situation and Mando rep...
In general, it is really hard to tell how the Jedi would react considering they somewhat earned the dubious honor of being the republics attack dogs during the peace...😅
KnightofTempest
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I've always seen the pattern of the Jedi being their own worst enemy that runs throughout the EU.
Revan, Malak, Jango Fett, Grievous, all of them were foes of the Jedi's own making.
It's a recurring motif.
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The Jedi's response to Mandolorians always struck me as more of a " Am I gonna have to fight this guy/gal... Yeah they're going to make me fight..."
Unless they don't in which case it's a pleasant surprise.
That is just LUDICROUS.
If they really wanted to arrest us, they would've already done it - or at least formally confined us to the Temple under some pretext like 'Keeping us safe' - instead of giving us a Chance to run away.
*looks at all the Warmongering and genociding the Mandos have done throughout their History*
Gee, I wonder why they might be a little bit biased at times? Completely unreasonable, right?
And before you say 'But the Mandos fought on the Jedi's side sometimes!'...your point? So did the Sith when there was a greater Threat afoot. Didn't mean they could be trusted or be considered Allies for all Eternity afterwards.
Let's not pretend the Mandos are some poor, innocent wittle Victims of History who are always persecuted by the EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIIIIIIIILLLL!1!!1!! Jedi here. There's a reason why the Picture of the warmongering, crusading and mass-murdering Mando-Warrior in Beskar-Armor is the prevalent one of the Mandalorians in the Galaxy.
Most of their Fans are just completely willing to overlook that all and pretend it didn't happen because they are "cool".
Factually untrue. If that was the case, they would've never been willing to hear us out and give us a chance to explain things in the first place.
This is just unfounded Paranoia on your part, born of the common (and DUMB) Fanon that the Jedi are always braindead Retards who can't wait to do something stupid, for no other reason then 'Hurr, durr, look how stupid we are!1!11!!'
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It'd be dumb to miss the climax of the story, and also it feels fitting that Jango would want to make sure Palpatine dies. Maybe there's not much he can do directly against Palps, but he could help fight any body guards. He's still a Mandalorian commando and has killed a couple Force users before. Nothing like Palps sure, but he's not the taking point, Mace Windu, Yoda, and others will be. Mace nearly killed Palpatine by himself, same with Yoda, now they're working together with even more back up.
Even if all we do is keep bodyguards off their backs, we'd be contributing. Why walk away and leave it up to risk when Jango could instead be there to watch it play it?
Even if all we do is keep bodyguards off their backs, we'd be contributing. Why walk away and leave it up to risk when Jango could instead be there to watch it play it?
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[X] He joins the Jedi when it comes to removing Darth Sidious
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Correction. He's the last Mandalorian Supercommando.
Actually, that might be the very reason why they don't believe him about Dooku (as Jango has very good reasons not to like Dooku AT ALL)
Plus...well, keep in mind, a lot of them were personal friends with Dooku, or at least knew him well as a good, respectable Jedi who left the Order not because he fell to the Dark Side, but because of holding legitimate and understandable grievances. And he has upheld that Image in public very well, presenting himself very convincingly as a political Idealist. That Facade only broke down on Geonosis, when he watched without remorse and more with amusement as many of them were slaughtered in the Arena and they truly saw the depths their former friend and comrade had sunken to.
If betrayal wasn't so unexpected, it wouldn't hurt so much. If evil wasn't so unthinkable, it wouldn't be evil.
I completely understand why even with this evidence we have, they find it so hard to believe that the good and honorable man they once knew and that he is still presenting himself as is gone now.
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Dooku was one of their greatest, and at one point Padawan to Yoda. He trained Qui-Gon-Gin, and was always rather upstanding in matters of morality. I'd say that the Jedi aren't exactly wrong in viewing the evidence skeptically. In canon it took blatant in your face evidence in Dooku being at the head of a public execution toward Obi-Wan and Anakin to prove without a single doubt that he'd turned.
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It's more like they only see what they want to see, despite evidence to the contrary. Given some time, they should start having second doubts, especially once Palpatine gets blasted into oblivion and Dooku will be forced to act.
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For better or worse, here we go!
Palpatine isn't quite at the height of his political power yet, but he is close. Simply putting him on trial might not be enough. Killing him and asking for forgiveness later is probably the best course of action, since it allows us to control the narrative. No matter how bad it will look.
We can only hope that he will roll badly.
Palpatine isn't quite at the height of his political power yet, but he is close. Simply putting him on trial might not be enough. Killing him and asking for forgiveness later is probably the best course of action, since it allows us to control the narrative. No matter how bad it will look.
We can only hope that he will roll badly.