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[X] Plan: Hammerhead
Grand Army of the Republic: A Star Wars Plan Quest
- Thread starter Oshha
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[X] Plan: Hammerhead
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Rather than waste Production on Escorts, why not shift contacting one of the two Producers to order more Hammerheads? You'll end up getting more that way and it'll only cost Money rather than delay Dreadnoughts.
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I want to follow up here with a few points:
1. Remember the QM has certain events that have certain pre-requisites. I am very, very certain that the QM is warning us via our Advisor that our ever growing lopsided Escort to Capital Ratio is going to possibly trigger one such potentially problematic event soon, where we will be forced to deal with it, like it or not. This is NOT a call to double down and dump all dice into Shipyards and ignore QM warnings completely with a supposition unsupported by any narrative hint or QM statement that our advisors would react a certain way if put exclusively on Dreadnaughts and nothing else. We asked the QM for more warning in light of the Anti-aging kerkuffle, he gave it. Heed it.
2. If it is inevitable that some of our Local production is going to have to go to Escorts, then the earlier we get a start to slowly building up Escort production, ultimately, the less production ratios we need to devote to Escorts in relation to Dreadnaughts and other Capitals. This is because the accumulation of Escorts snowballs over time, and every turn without some production means way more production is needed to make up for lost time.
3. This is also not a call to go overboard on Escort production. Shen's warning should be taken as a call to be careful not to go overboard on Escorts not necessarily not produce any of them at all. We hence should never find ourselves in a situation where have to sink more than 1 die into Escorts, because 2 dice is effectively +110 and risk a repeat of the armour/blaster situation. By delaying Escorts, we risk such a situation down the line.
4. Producing Escorts now do not lock us out of Dreadnaught production, so long as we keep Phases of Escort production modestly low. Having to crash expand Escorts might.
5. The Hammerhead is the partial transport answer to the Acclamator's flaws. I know people have argued the Accalmator should be dispatched into conditions of orbital supremacy, but because Hyperspace travel can result in systems being reinforced in hours in many cases, I suspect very few Clone War campaigns, pre Interdictors enjoy true orbital supremacy over a prolonged campaign. Especially given the nature of the Separatist Fleet (we are likely fighting a swarm type Fleet here). There is a very vital role a heavily armoured, high cargo and fast escort ship plays in our campaigns. It is not the answer to every problem, but definitely is a ship we want especially since our most common ship type, the Warrior, right now can't really carry troops into systems.
It cost exposure, and our exposure DC keeps climbing with every use of Burying Secrets. MandalMotors and CEC will just increase the number of designs that we might have to sink Exposure or local industrial capacity to expand too, especially if any of them offer a true trikecraft Killer escort to screen our Warriors from Droid swarms. Which we badly need, and we don't have.
We've got a Fleet that's likely really good at destroying Lurechulks, Recusants and Providences in a straight out fight right now, but probably is really vulnerable to mass swarm tactics and an enemy that refrains from straight out slug fests.
1. Remember the QM has certain events that have certain pre-requisites. I am very, very certain that the QM is warning us via our Advisor that our ever growing lopsided Escort to Capital Ratio is going to possibly trigger one such potentially problematic event soon, where we will be forced to deal with it, like it or not. This is NOT a call to double down and dump all dice into Shipyards and ignore QM warnings completely with a supposition unsupported by any narrative hint or QM statement that our advisors would react a certain way if put exclusively on Dreadnaughts and nothing else. We asked the QM for more warning in light of the Anti-aging kerkuffle, he gave it. Heed it.
2. If it is inevitable that some of our Local production is going to have to go to Escorts, then the earlier we get a start to slowly building up Escort production, ultimately, the less production ratios we need to devote to Escorts in relation to Dreadnaughts and other Capitals. This is because the accumulation of Escorts snowballs over time, and every turn without some production means way more production is needed to make up for lost time.
3. This is also not a call to go overboard on Escort production. Shen's warning should be taken as a call to be careful not to go overboard on Escorts not necessarily not produce any of them at all. We hence should never find ourselves in a situation where have to sink more than 1 die into Escorts, because 2 dice is effectively +110 and risk a repeat of the armour/blaster situation. By delaying Escorts, we risk such a situation down the line.
4. Producing Escorts now do not lock us out of Dreadnaught production, so long as we keep Phases of Escort production modestly low. Having to crash expand Escorts might.
5. The Hammerhead is the partial transport answer to the Acclamator's flaws. I know people have argued the Accalmator should be dispatched into conditions of orbital supremacy, but because Hyperspace travel can result in systems being reinforced in hours in many cases, I suspect very few Clone War campaigns, pre Interdictors enjoy true orbital supremacy over a prolonged campaign. Especially given the nature of the Separatist Fleet (we are likely fighting a swarm type Fleet here). There is a very vital role a heavily armoured, high cargo and fast escort ship plays in our campaigns. It is not the answer to every problem, but definitely is a ship we want especially since our most common ship type, the Warrior, right now can't really carry troops into systems.
It cost exposure, and our exposure DC keeps climbing with every use of Burying Secrets. MandalMotors and CEC will just increase the number of designs that we might have to sink Exposure or local industrial capacity to expand too, especially if any of them offer a true trikecraft Killer escort to screen our Warriors from Droid swarms. Which we badly need, and we don't have.
We've got a Fleet that's likely really good at destroying Lurechulks, Recusants and Providences in a straight out fight right now, but probably is really vulnerable to mass swarm tactics and an enemy that refrains from straight out slug fests.
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Giftbasket to the Duchess (Noncanon/+10 Bonus)
You made me do this....
Mandalore.
Sundari Palace.
Satine was marching to her inner chambers with purpose in her steps, she nedded to cool off before she did something she would regret later. She huffed, to say she was annoyed by current situation would be understatment, while no one would be brave enough to say it to her face she know some of the Palace gurads and close advisors that she crossed during walking could feel she was fuming with anger under her calm exterior.
And it looked this state will continue for some time unfortunetly, especially since even thinking about the lawsuit and how it ended made her recal those mocking looks and hidden amusement visible in eyes of the Concordia representatives during the last meeting that ended just half an hour ago. While they had so called neutral looks on their faces and been extremly polite she spend enough time in Core Worlds and around Republic Elite to learn how to read people even when they try to hide their fealings from her.
So she could easly see past their polite exterior and see both their amusement at her losing and smug stisfaction at their victory of the trial. She reflexivly stopped herself from grittting her teath when thinking about that so called "Trial", it was a mocking show of how corruption and money could influnce Republic and its institutions, it was a disgrace!
But couldn't do anything about it for now and she relaxed her face because she relaised she was scowling, it was unbecoming of some of her station to show visible anger even or even especially when those close to her could see it. She scholled her features and took deap breath, she was nearing her destination. The entrance was in sight.
After calmly approaching the entrence to her private rooms she inclned her head in greeting to the Gaurds, only those from her Clan that she was realy close to and had her absolute trust were selected to guard this part of palace.
"My Lady, there is a package wating for you inside" The senior most Guard said.
"Really, from who?" She was curious, normaly any correspondence or packages which were send to her were recived by her staff to be checked and segregated and only those most important, valuable or private reached her personaly. So to something pass the security and selection was unusual.
"We don't know My Lady, it was unfortunetly send anonymously. While normaly we would never allow it inside not knowing who was the sender it already passed positivly the automated security scan and as such it was followed up by opening and manual checking and scanning again by members of the Guard with more precise equipment, its content were found to be nothing eighter suspicious or dangerous and after seeing what exactly was inside and double checking everything again it was decided that while it was unusual there is no danger in delivering it tught we didn't open the letter since it was considered to be a breach of privacy. It is on the table in your main room My Lady, we hope you will like it." He reported with smile.
She raised her eyebrow, that was really surprising turn of events especialy the sugestive behaviour of the Gaurd impling she will like the content. Well since it was deemed safe she could see what this mysterious package was, maybe it will help her not think about that blasted Trial.
"Wery well, good work" Waiting a moment for the Guards to open the reinforced doors(she was pacifist, not an idiot) she entered.
After passing the door and looking inside she indded sees a quite saizable parcel on the table of her main room, hearing the sound of them closing behind her she approched the mystery.
It was quite a packadge the size of a couch made from some from of synthetic material, on the front was small writing 'To Satine Kryze the Duchess of Mandalore from her Biggest Fan, in thanks for all your hard work for better future Mandalore and Galaxy'.
Well wasn't that quite charming? She had a fan, that was nice.
As long it wasn't some kind of weirdo, those were the worst. Even assasins were better because they at least wanted her only dead.
Curious what was inside she got to work opening it.
Few momens later she seen what was inside.
Her Gaurd was right she quite liked it, inside was a big and beautiful bouquet of flowers in all clours of rainbow but tastfuly balanced done to look elegant and not garish, a gigantic package of luxurious sweets(her favorites) and a old fashined sealed paper letter.
It brought a geniuine smile to her face, it was really nice. Especially in a day like this one.
After a quiet moment of enjoing the amazing bouquet(and eating few sweets) she reached for the letter, took it and sat in a plush armchair she used when wanting to relax.
With smile she opened the letter and started reading.
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Prime Minister Almec was hurriedly walking in the direcetion of Duchess Kryze private chambers, the news were both urgent and of... delicate matter.
While it would be easier to just send a message it was not advised taking in consideration both the type of news and the Duchess current frayed nerves.
Delivering the news privatly would allow him to... mitigate any outburst and help in calming Satine away from any praying eyes.
With satisfaction he sees his destination at the end of the corridor.
Nearing the door he sees the tense Guards.
Reaching the door and stooping before the Gaurds he opens his mouth to ask for entry when he hears a loud crash of somethign heavy inside followed by bellows of angry screaming mixed with some very... colorfull linguage he didn't suspect the Dushess to know.
Especailly in Huttese.
He slowly closes his mouth and looks closely at the Gurads, he notes their rapidly pailing faces under their helmets combined with visible sweating.
"Is everything alright? I hoped to speek with Duchess if possible."
The nearest Gaurd is wisibly struggling to find words but finally speaks with light croak to his voice.
"I'm afraid it will not be possible Minister. The Duchess recived some... unfortunate news and is currently... occupied, she asked to not disturb her tonight outside of any emergencies."
He took in the words followed by another loud crash inside and even more colorful words, this time in Mando.
Who knew that she could swear with the best(or worst) of them? Adonai would have been proud.
But yes it looked like it would be best to not disturb the Duchess right now.
"Very well, I will contact her in another time. Please infrom the Duchess that I would like to speak with her when she will be aveliable."
After reciving confirmation Almec turned around and not quite run but certainly energiticaly walked in opposite direction.
While walking he tought its quite a good idea to not tell right now Satine that Concordia Crescent Technologies just recived biggest single order for Blasters in their history.
Edit: This is my litle addition to this Quest, this almost exact scene stuck in my head and just didn't leave me alone till I wrote it down.
So I hope it gets Omake status but Apocrypha will be nice to.
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- Texas
That may not be true, he may just set aside alot of these clones for the post war era. When he has his new empire and he needs more troops to overwhelm the tired out polities.
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- Texas
[X] Plan: Hammerhead
- Location
- Canada
[X]Plan: Cloning and Shipyards to Kriff the Sith
Durabys
Miaow! Break the Chains!
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- the land of the Boii
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- He/Him
[X] Plan: Hammerhead
Where is the resource allocations in Plan Hammerhead?
Where is the resource allocations in Plan Hammerhead?
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- Singapore
Thanks. I've fixed it. Let me know if I missed anything.
[X] Plan: Hammerhead
I am not convinced the Hammerhead is an actually decent escort. Especially, considering the main unaddressed risk is fighter swarms, which can best be handled with a dedicated anti-fighter frigate.
Still, from a purely logical standpoint, spooling new shipyards on a planet without shipbuilding history directly into dreadnoughts sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Additionally, the allocation of infra and research dice in this plan makes more sense.
I am not convinced the Hammerhead is an actually decent escort. Especially, considering the main unaddressed risk is fighter swarms, which can best be handled with a dedicated anti-fighter frigate.
Still, from a purely logical standpoint, spooling new shipyards on a planet without shipbuilding history directly into dreadnoughts sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Additionally, the allocation of infra and research dice in this plan makes more sense.
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just discovered and binge read the quest-can we look into what the sith did with the clones they took? I feel that could come back to bite in the ass in the future
I am quite bemused with the maudlin about infrastructure and facilities of all things because that is something that is difficult to solve since we can't import it yet with how crowded Kamino is now it might be possible in the future that we will be able to build facilities dedicated for the GAR quite soon if we need that much space. Anyway we do have two people dedicated to the industrial side of our project and they are both space-focused so the point that I'm sure they are arguing currently about using the shipyards since I know Shen really doesn't want to if the goal is to build something bigger than a Star Destroyer.
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SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
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If I were a gambling man, and I very much am, I'd put a nickle on the Hutts being pulled into this as an active participant or strongly complicit entity. Nobody does quagmire quite like those classy gentlemen, as even the Vong admitted in Legends.
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[X] Plan: Hammerhead
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- Goose Land
I feel like your second sentence is supposed to be a reason in regards to why we should locally produce and not expand our contracts, but it's phrased as if you're arguing against contacting the two companies.
I am confused by this and am asking for clarification.
Both plans currently include contacting both companies, which costs Exposure, which your language seems to be using as a point against contacting either company, but then you pivot to pointing out our desperate need for Anti Air Droid Swarms, so I'm unsure of what position you're trying to take.
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- canada
[X] Plan: Hammerhead