Is there any real life counterpart to the Primordials from some myth?
The easiest way of Explaning a primordial is to use MT. Olympus. A Primordial is both the literal mountain, and the gods that dwell there; Zeus is his Fetich soul, Aphrodite is the embodiment of the Primordials lust and love and so on and so forth.
 
I do. On my phone, so I cannot link them now, but I will when able.


@Sucal

Here's the link. It's under both the Embodiments of Martial Arts, and there are also a few under the "Stuff other people wrote in my threads" spoiler.

Thanks for that!

I'm not going to lie, my first thought on seeing this is 'why didn't you just use gods'? I mean, the whole point of gods they draw their powers from a domain, and there are domains for basically everything. So logically, there is going to be a god for any given Martial Art, who is going to fulfill the exact same purpose as these.

Because the character concept I'm putting together is basically 'dude so in love with his martial arts, he bribed ??? for a harem of lovely artifact girls'. Its a rather less serious game, and dealing with the gods themselves can be frustrating with this particular ST.
 
Presumably because most exalts can't walk into a workshop and craft a god to order.
True, that's pretty much Sidereal only territory (Willing Assumption of Chains is hilarious).
Because the character concept I'm putting together is basically 'dude so in love with his martial arts, he bribed ??? for a harem of lovely artifact girls'. Its a rather less serious game, and dealing with the gods themselves can be frustrating with this particular ST.
Ah. Never mind then. Though I'm mildly curious as to what the ST does with gods to make them such a hassle.
 
Ah. Never mind then. Though I'm mildly curious as to what the ST does wit gods to make them such a hassle.

Think Supernatural Angels, with none of the good points and the inability to be useful cranked up to 5000. I swear they tend to be more anti-exalt then the bloody Wyld hunt. We ended up beating him with breadsticks when he tried such an attitude in a Sidereals game and even then he huffily stated that we were changing campaigns.
 
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How could Yahweh be more powerful than Theion, when he is clearly a Raksha(After all, He is weak to Chariots of Iron)? ;)
Heh. An old thing I wrote at some point:


The Lord of Trees

Four centuries ago, the people of the Oskian Fields were chased away from their homes by a host of barbarians come from the seas; they came ashore with wooden longships and conquered every village and city, killing a third of the population, taking a third in slavery, and chasing the rest into the Bordermarches. They walked long and they walked hard into the desolate lands, many among them falling from infected wounds, thirst or starvation, never to get up.

And one day as they began to lose hope, they saw a light in the distance, and came upon the Burning Tree, a hundred yards tall and each leaf a flickering flame; and the tree spoke to them, and an alliance was passed between men and a Lord of the Wyld. They came back with weapons born from dreams and hordes of goblins, and before them marched the lord, a moving tree as tall as a temple, scorching every man that lay a hand upon him. Countless soldiers died that day, and the barbarians took their wooden ships and fled even as half of their feet was burned. From this day forth, the old gods of the Oskian Fields were forsaken and the raksha alone was reverred, along with his spawn. He granted his people protection and aboundance, and they fed him dreams and the virtues of their captured enemies.

But twenty years ago, the barbarians came back – though no one knows if these were the same or another tribe entirely, it makes no matter. Their mighty ships had three rows of rams pulled by the muscle of countless slaves; and when they came ashore, their noblemen came down in chariots of war pulled by swift-footed horses; and the bladed joints of their wheels were made of iron, and the tips of their javelins was made of iron too; the goblins died like so many dreams upon one's awakening, and the raksha lord himself fell, his fire failing to harm the charriots and his flames quenched by the iron tips. The Oksian armies were defeated and the fae slaughtered; a third of the people were killed, a third was reduced in slavery, and a third scattered across the land in desperation. To this day, the barbarians rule.

But the lord survived, and he is bound by his oath; as long as a single one of his people remain, he is compelled by forces beyond his power to protect and save them. And so a cloud of smouldering leaves flies across the land, seeking a hero or an army, a treasure or a weapon, anything that will allow him to come back and fulfill the terms of the alliance. The Oksian Fields shall be free once again, no matter the cost.
 
I wonder if the idiot who leaked the documents realizes that they completely stalled the game's development for at least the next few days and compromised the entire quality assurance process, all for absolutely nothing.

Probably not.
 
So, for those unwilling to page through that (links are dead at this point) here's the responses from Holden in that thread:

Holden said:
I'm kinda surprised and really touched at how many people are speaking up to support the integrity of the playtest. Thanks, to all of you.

We're still discussing what measures to take next. Of course, realistically, any genie out of its bottle for more than 20 seconds on the internet is out for good, so, that is what it is. The most likely result of this is going to be the exact precise thing nobody wanted-- delaying the final release. For example, I'm here right now posting this, rather than working on Evocations and Martial Arts, as we were planning to this afternoon. Oh well. In this world, you roll with the punches.

Holden said:
There was going to be a major update to packet 1-1 (the core combat rules) this weekend, and we've already made edits to the packet 3-3 Charms earlier today. So it's already obsolete data lol.

But then, anyone who got a peek while it was up could probably already tell that, given the way some sections still had production mark-up and [INCORPORATE LATER] placeholder bits and whatnot. The main reason we don't do an early release is that we've put a lot of work into this and want it to get out to people with its pants on and its hair combed, rather than the first impression coming off like a hotel room at the Sochi Olympics.

Holden said:
Pretty much. We're not going to do some dumb-ass thing where we redo the whole book because OH NO A LEAK if that's what you're asking. I actually want to be done with this thing so I can move on to Arms, the Realm, Dragon-Blooded, etc.
 
Holden has had a pretty tempered responce to all of this, which I think is a credit to the man, and I am more than a little bit displeased with the deal those wankers have caused by leaking some stuff.
 
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