My love of the novel "Good Omens" compels me to suggest that Pollution would be a great addition to the Heralds of the Apocalypse.
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My love of the novel "Good Omens" compels me to suggest that Pollution would be a great addition to the Heralds of the Apocalypse.
I think you're right, but I still think that an Antichrist could be an appropriate figure here - assuming we go with the classical "anyone who preaches a false gospel and denies the Truth" sense. For one, I feel that the rise of destructive false prophets can be a classical disaster both politically and spiritually. For another, I think it would fit well as a counterpoint to its siblings, a lie that claims to avert the dooms of its siblings but instead leads you into them, unprepared and blind.
The Sandman
So Zetta Slowpoke
- Location
- Wherever I am, which isn't where I'm not
Okay. So if it's portents brought by comets, which one knocks a nation's stability down by one point on a seven-point scale?
Maybe something thematically/mechanically similar to Cecelyne's "Desolation"?
But instead of being caused by an absence of something it's caused by too much of something, like a person's limb swelling up from the presence of parasitic worms.
...Metagaos-related maybe?
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Make People Covered with Fish one too. For the reference, it actually being an odd weather phenomenon, and because I can see at least one Exalt making their lifelong obsession, "but why fish?"
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
*looks up other portents brought by comets*
"If it resembles a pair of flutes, it is a portent for the art of music; in the private parts of the constellations it portends immorality; in relation to certain fixed stars it portends men of genius and a revival of learning; in the head of the northern or the southern serpent [i.e. Draco and Serpens] it brings poisonings"
Hmmm...
Well, it probably doesn't matter. It's not like any of that sounds like Oramus in any way shape or form.
I suspect he wouldn't, actually.
See, Tzale's nature is the Defining Soul of Sima, and that indicates she self-defines by the death of princes and the fall of kingdoms. Powerful men fall and herald a new age. It is in his nature to be most effective against the powerful not because of some approval for the weak, but because the powerful are the ones whose deaths mark the passing of ages. He cannot be recognised in his cloak and his weapons leave different causes of deaths, because in his nature what is important is that the history books record "In year 783, Cynis Radrala died in his sleep as a comet flared in the sky".
(Incidentally, the fact that this is the Defining Soul of Oramus' fetich is one of those ways that Oramus and TED are brothers. Part of Oramus loves the death of powerful men whose deaths change Creation too.)
As to the thing about your Unquestionable - well, they're Unquestionable. They're beyond the Priests of Cecelyne. If the Unquestionable wants to be cut-up by their own Warden Soul, that's their boat - no one can question it, and it would be against the laws of Cecelyne for the Warden Soul to not do it when their greater self demands it of them.
On the other hand, a weakened Unquestionable is going to be a target in Unquestionable power plays. For example, the Blue Glass Princess, my fetich soul for Cecelyne, wants to force all other Third Circles into Surrender Oath-level oaths to her personally. As a result, she's going to be conspiring to force a weak Third Circle to accept the spiritual mutilation.
Is it just me, or does anyone else think this sounds like a remarkably common escape condition in Creation?
Yet another reason it's necessary to crush those peasant rebellions with all due force! They're backed by a demon!
Does Creation even have comets?
Maybe they're bits of rock (or whatever) that the Wyld occasionally spits out?
Imrix
Periodically Malevolent QM
I think so. Reminiscent Oasis' old Nocturnals splat did something cool with them, too.
Ancient China had comets and they were a big deal, so Creation has comets.
They're probably a sign of some greater-scale patterns in Fate, because a) they're a harbinger of great changes, b) they appear regularly and predictably, and c) they're a celestial phenomenon. They're probably not linked to the Wyld, because they're too predictable, but they might be linked to demons - "every 76 years, the comet of Ragara Halei returns and allows the Yozis to touch the world but briefly while it is in the sky".
That begs the question of whether it's possible (for non-Sidereals) to perform "manual astrological interference."
By which I mean "go up to the Dome of Heaven with a perfect parry and a baseball bat "
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The problem I have with this is that in ancient China, I don't think the sun and moon were magical spaceships. The only example of a comet in Creation I can think of is Gnosis, which is associated with if, not a part of, Gaia. Stars aren't just celestial and astrological phenomena, they're also hunks of starmetal. Celestial phenomena and objects are never just Celestial phenomena/objects.
Which means that while its perfectly fine for comets to be harbingers of great change and what not, they can't just be that, they also need to be actual, tangible things. So if Creation has comets, what are they?
- Location
- Singapore
If you were to have an alchemical shrub which produces age-reducing drugs, what would the rating be?
Like I said, "probably a sign of some greater-scale patterns in Fate". So, Loom-stuff. If you go with my hypothesis that it's linked to Yozi things, it's Mythos-twisted starmetal; starmetal that reflects the dying stars of the Malfean sky.
So whenever Orabilis chucks a demon into the sky of Malfeas, its reflected in Creation as a comet?
*strokes chin* *nods* Yeah, I could see that.
Nah. More likely "sometimes the walls to the prison of the Yozis are thinner than other times - during those times, the Loom makes comets as 'pearls' that try to fortify Fate". It's not that the presence of a comet means more demons can enter the world; it's that the comet marks times when the world is thinner.
(this does mean, yes, that if someone gets the causation the wrong way around and tries to destroy the comet, they just let more demons in and now the Loom isn't warning people)
TenfoldShields
Lounging on a Hoard of Words
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Solar Bob: "NEVER FEAR CITIZENS, THE HEINOUS BLIGHT-COMET HAS BEEN BANISHED FROM THE SKIES. NEVER SHALL IT TROUBLE YOU AGAIN."
Lunar: "oh no"
Sidereal: "oh no"
Infernal:
also, you know
not saying that if one of those comets fell on Nexus, the entire city of sin would be destroyed and left a wasteland of ruins with demons breaking through and strange exotic things made of the Demon Realm there for the picking and the incredibly rare twisted starmetal littering the place
but you know, if you wanted to play Mordheim in Exalted...
TenfoldShields
Lounging on a Hoard of Words
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Shouldn't Gem be the targeted city?
On a more serious note having a Comet destroy a major city at around the same time the Empress vanished would be an interesting way of altering the setting. If the Comet hits a major metropolitan area in the Realm than you have another justification for why the Realm is withdrawing from the Threshhold to focus on internal domestic conflict. If it hits a major threshold power like Nexus or Lookshy than you can strengthen the relative power of the Realm and create a rationale for why they are increasingly expanding their influence outside the Blessed Isle despite the disappearance of their ruler.
On a more serious note having a Comet destroy a major city at around the same time the Empress vanished would be an interesting way of altering the setting. If the Comet hits a major metropolitan area in the Realm than you have another justification for why the Realm is withdrawing from the Threshhold to focus on internal domestic conflict. If it hits a major threshold power like Nexus or Lookshy than you can strengthen the relative power of the Realm and create a rationale for why they are increasingly expanding their influence outside the Blessed Isle despite the disappearance of their ruler.
- Location
- Singapore
....everyone targets gem.
And then there's angle of "oh shit, the Empress got hit by a comet."
Because the Empress does disappear sometimes, and if the comet hit only a short time after she left, and then she still hasn't come back...well, there would be rumors and theories flying around, at the very least.
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She thought she could block it with Portentous Comet Deflecting Mode.
Unfortunately, Portentous Comet Deflecting Mode cannot block unblockable attacks and thus cannot, in fact, deflect comets.
Her last words were "False adveeeeeeeeertising..."
