The Sandman
So Zetta Slowpoke
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- Wherever I am, which isn't where I'm not
Don't forget about Alchemicals and Autochthonians suddenly showing up.
Actually, could I have a little help with an OC Yozi that's been bouncing around my head? About all I know about it is that its world-body is a giant glacier, and it's linked to sleep and gentle deaths.
What's the difference, thematically, between Panonca and Sacheverell? Beyond power, that is. Is it mostly that Sacheverell's future is undefined, to Panonca's "no I really insist on this grim darkness of the fourth age" thing?
Honestly, Panonca sounds like possible evidence that her greater self's misery and hate may have resulted in him taking on Abyssal themes - her behavior sounds very, very much like somebody who's been consumed by Whispers, and such an infection would both justify keeping her chained up and give Khvarenah - an Unquestionable already much disposed toward keeping secrets - very very good motivation to hide the truth of her condition at any cost. Discovering that Oblivion had managed to impinge on one of their chained kindred would probably drive the other Yozi into violent hysterics, given their disgust/hatred/other complicated and dark emotions toward the Underworld and the Neverborn.
Alternatively, the level of damage Khvarenah's doing to himself by caging his fury - already evidenced by Apaosha's growing distaste for the thing that she does as a Second Circle soul - is tearing his spiritual structure to pieces, and Panonca's insanity is a warning sign of where this leads. That might actually be worse, since at least I have some grasp of what Oblivion-taint does. Part of a Yozi's spiritual hierarchy imploding on itself is, to my knowledge, unprecedented.
I guarantee you one has. If nothing else, at least in the context of insulting strictly heterosexual people who aren't interested in the more exotic things they can offer with shapeshifting.
Sure yeah! I mean I'm probably not a huge help in general and I'm not even a reliable filter for "is this stupid" but sure.
Did you have any direction in particular you wanted to go with it? I mean most of the Yozi are physics/space jokes and shit. The Ebon Dragon is entropy, SWLIHN is a galaxy (but also anti-matter), Malfeas is a lite Dyson Sphere. A Yozi that's a glacier would probably be themed around absolute zero stuff/the coldness of space though, uh, the proper Yozi aren't exactly gentle anything.
Why did the forum say that this post quoted me?Some brainstorming: maybe a Yozi after existential/mental breakdown that dreams only of proper death and avoiding fate of Neverborn, so he build layers upon layers of ICE upon his world body, but can't quite freeze himself to "proper" death... the suicidal mirror to homicidal Silent Wind? As for space puns, wouldn't he be embodied concept of heat death of the universe?
Edit: mix in bits of Mountains of Madness and it could be proper Lovecraftian horror..
Likely a bug somewhere. It's happened to me a few times too.
Because it used to quote you and the forum software still registers as such.
Sure yeah! I mean I'm probably not a huge help in general and I'm not even a reliable filter for "is this stupid" but sure.
Did you have any direction in particular you wanted to go with it? I mean most of the Yozi are physics/space jokes and shit. The Ebon Dragon is entropy, SWLIHN is a galaxy (but also anti-matter), Malfeas is a lite Dyson Sphere. A Yozi that's a glacier would probably be themed around absolute zero stuff/the coldness of space though, uh, the proper Yozi aren't exactly gentle anything.
Some brainstorming: maybe a Yozi after existential/mental breakdown that dreams only of proper death and avoiding fate of Neverborn, so he build layers upon layers of ICE upon his world body, but can't quite freeze himself to "proper" death... the suicidal mirror to homicidal Silent Wind? As for space puns, wouldn't he be embodied concept of heat death of the universe?
Edit: mix in bits of Mountains of Madness and it could be proper Lovecraftian horror.
According to EarthScorpion, each of the canon Yozis embody a mental disorder of some kind. SWLiHN is OCD, Cecylene has a god complex, Ebbie the Friendly Dragon is a textbook sociopath, etc. In the case of my OC Yozi, that would be depression. He legitimately believes that existence is not worth the pain it brings, and whenever he finds a being of any kind upon his World-Body, he freezes them within it, though he (normally) can't be arsed to actually seek out beings to do this to. Hence, the link to gentle deaths.
Inspired by nurgle?Meshk, the Plague-Naib
Demon of the Second Circle
Expressive Soul of the Seven-Tailed Comet
According to EarthScorpion, each of the canon Yozis embody a mental disorder of some kind. SWLiHN is OCD, Cecylene has a god complex, Ebbie the Friendly Dragon is a textbook sociopath, etc. In the case of my OC Yozi, that would be depression. He legitimately believes that existence is not worth the pain it brings, and whenever he finds a being of any kind upon his World-Body, he freezes them within it, though he (normally) can't be arsed to actually seek out beings to do this to. Hence, the link to gentle deaths.
I don't think it's as cut and dried as that really and in general there isn't exactly a 1:1 relation. It's not like you can pull out the DSM-5 and be like "okay, here's Elloge and Oramus and Metagaos and theeere's Isidoros". Each Yozi is a constellation of fucked up traits and is better examined as, like, okay what kind of villain would they be? The Ebon Dragon is the evil doppelganger who slowly erases you while taking over your life, dragging you down to his level where he has the advantage. Isidoros is the vice-consumed (at least by @Revlid's great writeup) brute, the tank of a man who pursues what he wants with single-minded determination. Metagaos is a creature-feature and Oramus makes you Nyarlathotep who brings wonders and terror to mankind, Cecelyne is the prophet of a capricious and uncaring god and Malfeas is the "stride into battle and do the Sauron-thing".
Adorjan, fr'ex, really doesn't map well to depression at all. Her lack of caring about things isn't 'cause she's got the head-blues and she's not afflicted with lethargy and suicidal ideation or a loss of enjoyment in activities she once cared for. She just had something deeply traumatic happen to her, had a Titan-sized psychotic break, and thinks she found enlightenment in the pain.
"Attachments are pain and love is pain and I will show you the bliss of freeing yourself from such temporal shackles by FLAYING YOU ALIVE IN THE KILLER WIND".
You can't feel the pain of attachment if no bit of you is attached to any other bit right?
It's worth noting that even by the standards of the Yozi Adorjan is viscerally offputting and deeply unsettling. For all that Jacint is a bro.
It's worth noting too that each Yozi is just...a huge asshole. An often really really petty one at that. So you have to factor that in mind while designing one, it's the kind of creature that's basically been left to stew for millennia in its own neuroses and was a prick at the start of it.
now do one based on slaanesh
they go around handing out boobs to their loyal followers, but only one and you have to hope really hard for good placement
Yana, the Famine Courtesan
Demon of the Second Circle
Wisdom Soul of the Seven-Tailed Comet
Meshk, the Plague-Naib
Demon of the Second Circle
Expressive Soul of the Seven-Tailed Comet
Mazah, the Smith of Strife
Demon of the Second Circle
Messenger Soul of the Seven-Tailed Comet
Don't forget about Alchemicals and Autochthonians suddenly showing up.
AhahahahahahahahahahaThe Death of Princes is the inferior of Lucien in an open fight, for he is a hunter who treats the great and mighty as his prey. Only those with temporal power even feel Tzale's weapons. His knives will bounce off a serf, scratch the abbot of a minor monastery and cleanly decapitate a prince. His nature to slay the strong and leave the weak leaves him an outcast and criminal in the eyes of Cecelyne's law. Yet despite that, the priests have not caught him - for the law has given them authority over him and thus his blades are sharp and keen when plunged into their backs.
So what does that make the other three? Conquest might be in there, but that still leaves two.Also hee. Not the four horsemen of the apocalypse. The seven. Sima is, after all, a comet who brings ill omens wherever she is seen.
God, he'd get along with one of the TCDs I'm trying to assemble, and most of his SCDs to boot. Speaking of which, could an Unquestionable whose dislike for the idea of the strong dominating the weak is so great he constantly weeps and sobs over his status and has his Warden Soul constantly mutilate him to lessen his own power get away with it by virtue of him also being a complete nonpresence in Malfeas' politics, since then he'd be exerting his power over less powerful beings? Or does his Warden Soul have to fend off assassination attempts from the priesthood of Cecelyne?Tzale, the Death of Princes
Demon of the Second Circle
Defining Soul of the Seven-Tailed Comet
Tzale has the seeming of a young man with dark skin, who wears a stone skull-mask made from one of the scales of Oramus. His mannerisms are of a backwoods hunter, and he speaks with a folksy charm. He chews Malfean vegetation, and this leaves a peculiar metallic odour around him. However, when Tzale wraps himself in his enchanted cloak woven from Sima's fur he can become anything that he is not. With crossbow and his long fine knives, he hunts his prey. Those he kills never show the marks of blade or bolt. Their bodies are left as if they were slain by some other cause - a heart attack, a savage mauling by a tiger or murder with a great jade hammer, to name but a few. The Death of Princes has no control over what marks his weapons leave on his foes.
The Death of Princes is the inferior of Lucien in an open fight, for he is a hunter who treats the great and mighty as his prey. Only those with temporal power even feel Tzale's weapons. His knives will bounce off a serf, scratch the abbot of a minor monastery and cleanly decapitate a prince. His nature to slay the strong and leave the weak leaves him an outcast and criminal in the eyes of Cecelyne's law. Yet despite that, the priests have not caught him - for the law has given them authority over him and thus his blades are sharp and keen when plunged into their backs.
Many of the hired killers and assassins of Creation worship the Death of Princes, offering their kills to him and engaging in sordid bloody rites in hidden wild places. Some call him a god and he accepts that title. His own knives would cut him for this, but he tires of working in the shadows without recognition. The praise of the assassins of Creation and the veneration they give him sates his craving for recognition. Tzale was once more humble and more cautious, but in his vainglory he has begun to leave clues and hints for his targets as he stalks them. Those killers who feed his ego and call him to this world are gifted with weapons from the Demon Realm and rites to call his serfs.
Tzale is well-named, for he brings death to the princes of the world and that is what demonologists call on him for. Alas, sorcerers are powerful men with dominion over the world and many have fallen to him. Many books that mention him have been censored by sorcerers who would hide his existence from his foes, which offends him. His offence does not deny his nature, however, and he gains a point of limit whenever someone he has sworn to kill recognises him. Tzale is called to Creation by certain rare astrological phenomena, and the learned know such signs often result in ill fates for the powerful.
Is it just me, or does anyone else think this sounds like a remarkably common escape condition in Creation?She can escape from Hell to answer the cries of oppressed mortals who long for vengeance against their overlords.
What overlord lets their oppressed mortals cry for vengeance? Amateurs, that's who!Is it just me, or does anyone else think this sounds like a remarkably common escape condition in Creation?
I very much doubt these are Christian portants of the apocalypse - that's only really a valid resource for the Empyreal Chaos. Tzale isn't Death astride a Pale Horse; he's the Death of Princes. More likely they're general apocalyptic things heralded by comets, since Sima is one. Halleyʼs Comet was blamed the end of King Harold's reign and his death at Hastings, for instance. And the fall of Constantinople, IIRC.So what does that make the other three? Conquest might be in there, but that still leaves two.