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Then Durability wise their not much different than normal humans then without motes and charms
The hypothetical Solar than can learn all Charms of all Exalted
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Not one Charm, but a tree of Stamina/Resistance passives that build up into that is an option. It'll be a long road, but worth it because you will be one of the few things in Creation that can just focus on beating in faces. No wasting your precious motes on dodging, that's for wimpy noodle-Solars.
Yes, but Exalted is one of the few games where Rule of Cool is almost a law of physics. It's one of those games where one does awesome even when going by utterly pure numbers, because those numbers support and reward awesome.
It does if you get inserted as a Liminal, Exigent or Dragonblooded
Those Exaltations are either inherent to a state of being or well within the domain of a R.O.B. to make you into.At best, peak human. At worst, about average medieval fighter.
Prolly an Exigent of something hard to distinguish from an existing Exalt type. Likely looking like a buffed DB by being an Exigent of Fire, or Life/Wood element, or one of the other three DB.
When Exigents get their book, how many of us are going to use the rules for boosted versions of archetypes from other Exalts? Because it looks like they are going to be used as an excuse to be DB+. It just seems to be how it'll work out...
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I see, well at least someone give me an honest reply, since to me things like insane durability are my last line of defense if I run out of things that keep me at perfect heath in boss battles, like here Perfect Defense are good but waste too much Motes unless you get something like a kaleidostick, since Perfect Defense are not suited for battles in attrition, so why use Perfect Defense if you can Tank their Attacks?
Well that's informative and I thanks anyway
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Well, Perfect Attacks are still stopped by Perfect Defenses, although Perfect Dodges may not apply for countering Perfect Hits. I'm not sure on that, and the official ruling can always be overturned by ST, for drama, logic or nerfing an obnoxious minmaxer.
And soaking is rather the point. Moteless tanking of ridiculously deadly things is what Kinunatze was asking about.
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What are soak anyway?, encase you don't know I haven't played Exalted yet like in my previous replies my knowledge is only Fanfic and Wiki well theirs books too but it's only "The Compass of Celestial Directions, Vol. I - The Blessed Isle" and I haven't finish it yet
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Yep that's what I'm after, use less motes for battle of attrition which is the weakness of most Exalted especially a Solar
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It's like god hand.
"Any attack below this level of damage is ignored."
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Basically damage reduction. It negates a specific amount of damage. An endlessly repurchasable passive Charm that grants it would be OP because it would allow for practical indestructability without spending a single Mote.
Same here, I just have better game sense and memory, so I understand game balance better, allowing me to avoid asking most stupid questions about how the game works and what is and is not game breaking.
I'm perfectly fine with the memetic Creation Slaying Oblivion Kick's component Charms, with attendant Charm Trees, existing, as long as the 'I hit you, you become a duck, or a gust of wind or whatever else I think of' Charm is made non-combo-OK.
That thing being made easier to hit is game breaking anyway, so removing the option of adding it to a Combo, which, from what I gather, is a way to use several Charms at the same time, typically used to mix odd ways to improve ones capacity to hit with on-hit effects.
CSOK itself is using the ultimate version of that concept, using three Charms that are, essentially, 'I see everything,' 'I hit everything I see' and 'I utterly transform what I hit' in one combo. On second though, maybe having the 'I hit everything I see' Charm be allowed in combos isn't a good idea...
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Without the ST hindering and you can do whatever you want can you exploit this soak thing? to the point where I wan't planet level durability and higher? what is the mechanics of soak anyway? is it like this, the enemy attack you with 10 dmg your soak is 9, so your dmg is 1? another is the enemy attack you with 10 slash with 10 dmg each your soak is 9, so your dmg is 10?
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Oh hell yes. 2nd edition Soak builds were fully able to ignore all Exalt available Moteless damage outside of exotic Artifact weapons, and quite a lot of the Mote spending stuff. Took dedicated combat builds to deal meaningful damage to those monsters.
In 2nd edition, which is what I'm more familiar with, Soak is statted as, essentially, Soak X/Y, where X is the amount of Soak and Y is the type of damage, in terms of, basically, 'Beat you 'till you're knocked out,' 'Beat you to death' or 'Beat you to death super-magically.' If I recall correctly, the damage is just reduced by the Soak value. The rules text states it very differently, but the mechanics come down to that description.
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Oh, sorry I really don't understand what you said, it doesn't explain to me the mechanics, so it works like the one I tried to explain?
May I suggest you read up a little on the mechanics before continuing this conversation?
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There's a number describing the amount of soak and a word describing the type of damage the number reduces.
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So, Accelerator is sorta right. Their are two types of passive durability enhancing things. Soak and Hardness.
Soak is damage reduction, with the caveat that it can't bring damage to Zero. If someone attacks you with a 12 damage dice attack, and you have 13 soak, you're still taking one dice of damage on that attack.
Hardness is "You must do this much damage to affect me." If you have 10 Hardness, and someone hits you with a 9 damage dice attack, it fails. No roll, no nothing. However, unlike Soak, sources of Hardness don't stack. If you have armor that grants you 10 Hardness, and a Charm that grants you 7 Hardness, your total Hardness is 10. As the Strongest Armor in the Corebook has 10 Hardness, and a lot of Artifact Weapons have enough damage to get through that, Hardness is mostly a way of being able to ignore Mortals and other weak beings.
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Where on the wiki?
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Can you combine the Harness and Soak making you super durable?
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Okay, let's put it this way.
This community is full of people who have put literally hundreds of man hours into trying to fix things, writing patches and trying to work out ways to stop broken things from destroying the play experience and making things un-fun.
You are skipping into here and going "Help me make things un-fun!" and then whining when people tell you "No".
This is why you are not getting a warm welcome. And it will not get any warmer as you keep on trying to break the game. Stop doing that, and things might thaw.
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I thing that they aren't fully literate, given that they didn't understand my previous explaination.
Hardness must not be very important, given that this is the first I've heard of it... Does it stack with Soak?
No, it doesn't stack. It is its own thing.
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Hardness applies before Soak.
So say you have Orichalcum Plate Armor with 15 Soak and 10 Hardness, and a guy throws a 12 damage dice attack. It beats Hardness, so you subtract soak, and wind up with a one damage dice attack. Then the opponent rolls that single dice, and if it's a success you take a single point of damage, and if it's a failure, congrats, you your armor deflected a blow that would have been fatal!
Hardness/Soak rules are on page 149 of 2e Corebook.
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...Read one of the corebooks. They're called 'Exalted', someone linked you both the 2nd Edition and 3rd Edition a while ago.
As with the corebooks of most RPGs, they contain the base system and mechanics of the game. Everthing else references it, which is why it is the 'core' book.
I reiterate. Read one of them. They explain the mechanics.
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So? I'm just asking if I can do something like that and this, what i'm looking is not in the perceptive of the Game but lore wise and if you in this situation what would you do and what can you do, so why would I follow Game Mechanics that limits me to keep yourself alive? that doesn't work because of game mechanics like thinges
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Sorry admin i'm still in the process of finishing the book of "The Compass of Celestial Directions, Vol. I - The Blessed Isle" so I haven't took a look at it yet, it' just kinda escalated to this
Encase you didn't read me reply earlier I said I'm still in the process of finishing a book, and I haven got their at the mechanics yet since I first went to the Lore of Exalted rather than Mechanics
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Encouraging someone to read the 2e Corebook and learn the mechanics of Exalted. Next you'll tell them to make a character and engage in extensive combat.
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In essence, because high Hardness would make characters passively invincible, Hardness values have generally been kept low in the game.
Also, the most common TMA Charm in Creation (Five Dragon Style) has a Hardness-ignoring Charm as its first Charm, which indicates that characters should have easy access to Hardness ignoring.