[x] Both… later. You'll accept postponing one of the *fixes* for now, and offer your services in helping catch the thief.
-[x] Fully repair AVALON.

Screw it, Thresh said it's fine and Avalon is an extremely potent tool at our disposal, even if it is only sparingly.
 
[x] Both… later. You'll accept postponing one of the *fixes* for now, and offer your services in helping catch the thief.
-[x] Fully repair AVALON.

I was under the impression that chasing down the thief would result in Avalon being repaired after another mission. If this is not the case, which currently is what I'm reading the discussion as saying, I'd rather get it now seeing as Thresh seems like he's okay for now. I might just be misreading this conversation though.
 
I was under the impression that chasing down the thief would result in Avalon being repaired after another mission. If this is not the case, which currently is what I'm reading the discussion as saying, I'd rather get it now seeing as Thresh seems like he's okay for now. I might just be misreading this conversation though.
Actually your right about that, the greater vote your going for is basically another mission to repair what doesn't get fixed now.
 
Thresh doesn't care about it.

He can unlock it in other ways

His isn't literally crippled like Verge

This is our only chance to fix it.

Overall, Gram is leagues away from the importance of Avalon.
Crippled is a strong word for something that more or less just gives us access to better armor and a super move. Does it suck not to have, totally, but it was never something I placed a huge value on since Verge can still handle himself just fine.

No, what interests me is if each of those special tree code/items have a mental effect like the sins do that align with their knights. An since Thresh would be so noticeable if it had any kind of effect like that, I figured it would be nice to know one way or another there.
 
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I just want this over with so we can go get Onyxi introduced to her new home and go save those missing mon if that mission is still on the table.
Crippled is a strong word form something that more or less just gives us access better armor and a super move. Does it suck not to have, totally, but it was never something I placed a huge value on since Verge can still handle himself just fine.

No, what interests me is if each of those special tree code/items have a mental effect like the sins do that align with their knights. An since Thresh would be so noticeable if it had any kind of effect like that, I figured it would be nice to know one way or another there.
Eh Verg kind of needs the possibly added mental protection Avalon gives considering his mind without will can be split into wrath, power and desire. He's also spent a very large amount of time in the presences of a current demon and a former one.
 
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Okay, here's my thoughts. It's not that I think that Verge doesn't deserve to get AVALON repaired, it's that given his characterization up until now, and how things shook out, Verge himself would not feel like he'd properly earned it. He's also shown, consistently that if there's a way to help his friends/siblings/wards grow stronger, he will go for that over his own personal empowerment. That is why I'm voting for both later, and prioritizing GRAM.
 
[x] Both… later. You'll accept postponing one of the *fixes* for now, and offer your services in helping catch the thief.
-[x] Fully repair AVALON.

This is the whole reason we came here after all. Gram is nice but can wait.
 
I just want this over with so we can go get Onyxi introduced to her new home and go save those missing mon if that mission is still on the table.

Eh Verg kind of needs the possibly added mental protection Avalon gives considering his mind without will can be split into wrath, power and desire. He's also spent a very large amount of time in the presences of a current demon and a former one.
Does Avalon do anything for that? As it was never really clear on stuff like that, hence why I wanted to see how Thresh handles Gram. As that would give us a clear answer on that subject.
 
Does Avalon do anything for that? As it was never really clear on stuff like that, hence why I wanted to see how Thresh handles Gram. As that would give us a clear answer on that subject.
That has not been shown actually. The reason we seem to be more wrathful is because when we evolved we lost the Zen trait. Which makes sense given that a Grapleomon's entire fighting prowess is emotionally based. Being Zen all the time would actively hinder us in combat.
 
[x] Both… later. You'll accept postponing one of the fixes for now, and offer your services in helping catch the thief.
-[x] Fully unlock Gram

Seems reasonable, sometimes you have to react now to act later.
 
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Okay, here's my thoughts. It's not that I think that Verge doesn't deserve to get AVALON repaired, it's that given his characterization up until now, and how things shook out, Verge himself would not feel like he'd properly earned it. He's also shown, consistently that if there's a way to help his friends/siblings/wards grow stronger, he will go for that over his own personal empowerment. That is why I'm voting for both later, and prioritizing GRAM.
Here's the thing tho one of his sibling is pretty much telling him you can go first. Not sure if it's cause he honestly thinks that he is strong enough or is worried when he heard that something inside Verg was broken and needs fixing I ain't got a clue but he's doing it. At the end of the day even if Verg accepts it he will do his damnedest to go about and finish this job to pay not only Vulcan but Thresh back as well.
Does Avalon do anything for that? As it was never really clear on stuff like that, hence why I wanted to see how Thresh handles Gram. As that would give us a clear answer on that subject.
I could be remembering it absolutly wrong but for some reason I tie the grey text to will power and I do have this sort of nagging feeling that drex said it can help against Ardat's corruption.
 
I could be remembering it absolutly wrong but for some reason I tie the grey text to will power and I do have this sort of nagging feeling that drex said it can help against Ardat's corruption.
Except the text from Yggy, and thus connected to AVALON is white. It's usually just Bolded.
 
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Here's the thing tho one of his sibling is pretty much telling him you can go first. Not sure if it's cause he honestly thinks that he is strong enough or is worried when he heard that something inside Verg was broken and needs fixing I ain't got a clue but he's doing it. At the end of the day even if Verg accepts it he will do his damnedest to go about and finish this job to pay not only Vulcan but Thresh back as well.

I could be remembering it absolutly wrong but for some reason I tie the grey text to will power and I do have this sort of nagging feeling that drex said it can help against Ardat's corruption.
Wasn't Grey our knight/past life effect though?
 
Wasn't Grey our knight/past life effect though?
Again I could be remembering wrong and probably am. What my brain remembers accurately and what it doesn't is mystery even to me. Doesn't t help that I am just a tiny bit sleep deprived but I am trying to stay up to see what the vote will be before I head off to sleep.
Simple if we aquire enough head voices they'll all be too busy fighting to bother us!

.... Wait what do you mean it doesn't work like that?!
You say that but I am pretty sure we've been pulling the balancing act to keep them fighting each other if unintentionally.
 
Again I could be remembering wrong and probably am. What my brain remembers accurately and what it doesn't is mystery even to me. Doesn't t help that I am just a tiny bit sleep deprived but I am trying to stay up to see what the vote will be before I head off to sleep.

You say that but I am pretty sure we've been pulling the balancing act to keep them fighting each other if unintentionally.
Grey voice goes for will. Bold can be Yggy.

And you may want to sleep man. I'll be extending the vote until tomorrow.
 
I think that our decision will inform Vulcanusmon as to Verge's priorities, as well as his convictions.
 
[X] Both… later. You'll accept postponing one of the fixes for now, and offer your services in helping catch the thief.
-[X] Fully unlock Gram.

Still catching back up on the quest but I thought I should at least vote on this huge vote. (Currently on page 658)
 
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[X] Both… later. You'll accept postponing one of the fixes for now, and offer your services in helping catch the thief.
-[X] Fully unlock Gram.

Still catching back up on the quest but I thought I should at least vote on this huge vote. (Currently on page 658)
Thank you man. It means a lot to me. I'll be glad to have you caught up and with us again.
 
... I don't really want Craniummon tbh, so I'm fine with not fixing Avalon at all but I guess if it's forced to a choice between unlock Avalon vs Gram, I'd rather have Gram.

[X] Both… later. You'll accept postponing one of the fixes for now, and offer your services in helping catch the thief.
-[X] Fully unlock Gram.
 
So... anyone have any opinion on weather or not their might be some test aspect to this like Just proposed?
Again I have no clue why everyone thinks their is some sort of test of character going on here. It's just business to him and he honestly doesn't not care about the royal knights. Those ordeals where just chores he was putting off for too long and now they were coming back to bite him.
... I don't really want Craniummon tbh, so I'm fine with not fixing Avalon at all but I guess if it's forced to a choice between unlock Avalon vs Gram, I'd rather have Gram.
So spite voting? Not saying there is anything to wrong with what your voting fro but the reason you gave comes of as that. I have done similar things before.
 
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[x] Both… later. You'll accept postponing one of the *fixes* for now, and offer your services in helping catch the thief.
-[x] Fully repair AVALON.

Flipping over, some of the arguments made for it turned me away from Gram.
 
So spite voting? Not saying there is anything to wrong with what your voting fro but the reason you gave comes of as that. I have done similar things before and felt bad afterwards.
Okay dude? Knock off the manipulation. It's really blatant, and frankly at this point it's infuriating.

Again I have no clue why everyone thinks their is some sort of test of character going on here. It's just business to him and he honestly doesn't not care about the royal knights. Those ordeals where just chores he was putting off for too long and now they were coming back to bite him.
Why do you insist on making these blanket statements as if they're facts? For all we know it could have an impact on how Vulcanusmon views Verge.


Flipping over, some of the arguments made for it turned me away from Gram.
Could you maybe expand on that? There's still room for debate I think.
 
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