He's not killing anyone, we have healers, he seems like the kind of guy who would appreciate the sheer balls of the challenge, and Verge's instincts that aren't derived from any of the foreign influences wants it.
He's crippling them. Severing entire limbs. And we are massive now. I don't think Pit is going to be able to heal us up all that quickly afterwards even if we do win. On top of that, that still leaves the tunnel-o-death, which the others would have to deal with on their own.

Edit: Also, look again. That entire section is bolded white. That's an outside influence alright. A certain Tree.
 
To note, it's just Bold, not Bold and White coloured. Minor difference, but still a meaningful one.
Ah, thank you for the clarification. I still say it's Yggdrasil. The orange text indicates that it's Sparks coming up with that plan, and it's one that follows through on our earlier vow to protect him.
 
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[X] Attempt to make a coordinated push with your squad. Using Frame Reinforce should allow you to withstand the concentrated fire being poured out from the tunnel. With your body acting as his shield, Sparks will return fire, to hopefully defeat the defenders and minimize loss of life.

We're here to find info on our family. The thrill of the fight can wait.
 
We're here to find info on our family. The thrill of the fight can wait.

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[] Yes. You'll head out with him to Phelesmon's fortress to fight. Spreading your name like Flam-Agnimon would have is important if you wish to fulfill his dream. What's more, this Legendary Warrior could be a worthy opponent. You've yet to have a proper challenging match since you evolved to Gryzmon. This could be your chance for an honorable, fight against a peer while supporting the rest of your squad.

Do recall that while wanting info on our family is what we went looking for it it NOT what brought us to this particular battle field.

This is Phelesmon's turf, not the Count's. There is no reason to believe that our people will be here and Verge explicitly came here for the purpose of spreading his name and fighting a legendary warrior/a worthy opponent.

Thus I choose to fight the legendary warrior, who is a worthy opponent for our (say it with me) Godling comparable War Bear, in order to test our limits and apread our name because doing otherwise is moving backwards from the choice that brought Verge here.

If we wanted to be the team dad we would have stayed home with our son. The go big or go home option was picked so I don't see the point in chickening out now.
 
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If we wanted to be the team dad we would have stayed home with our son. The go big or go home option was picked so I don't see the point in chickening out now.
-_- You're confusing "making a name for ourselves" with "I'mma bounce baseballs off my skull in the batting cages!". We can still make a name for ourselves by being a siege-beaker. If we get maimed trying to fight Wolfmon, we're not going to be in a position to help anyone immediately afterwards, and we just become one more mon that fell to his blades.
 
-_- You're confusing "making a name for ourselves" with "I'mma bounce baseballs off my skull in the batting cages!". We can still make a name for ourselves by being a siege-beaker. If we get maimed trying to fight Wolfmon, we're not going to be in a position to help anyone immediately afterwards, and we just become one more mon that fell to his blades.
Counterpoint

If we don't fight Wolfmon hes going to keep shredding ourside's troops. We may lose enough men to make the siege unwinnable or worse, he finishes up ouside and comes in after us anyway.

Also, treating the fight as unwinnable because of how this guy was portrayed in another story is an inherently flawed position. Especially when his source anime is wildly inconsistent with power levels, isn't that right mr "I kick around Beast Spirits for fun" IceDevimon?

I don't know if we'll win or not, but drex doesn't do trap votes.

Also, we're trying to uphold Agnimon's dream of heroism... how the hell are we going to do that if we run?
 
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Also, we're trying to uphold Agnimon's dream of heroism... how the hell are we going to do that if we run?
Who said anything about running? We'd just be playing smart by utilizing teamwork. We have to get past him either way, but the teamwork option means that we play siegebreaker instead of dueling him and then leaving the others to clear the rest of the tunnel.
Counterpoint

If we don't fight Wolfmon hes going to keep shredding ourside's troops. We may lose enough men to make the siege unwinnable or worse, he finishes up ouside and comes in after us anyway.

Also, treating the fight as unwinnable because of how this guy was portrayed in another story is an inherently flawed position. Especially when his source anime is wildly inconsistent with power levels, isn't that right mr "I kick around Beast Spirits for fun" IceDevimon?

I don't know if we'll win or not, but drex doesn't do trap votes.
Do not put words in my mouth. I never said anything about it being a trap vote. And I'm not treating the fight as unwinnable due to metaknowledge of the anime, I'm treating it as Verge being very unlikely to win because this is most likely the Strabimon from earlier on. Who was not only stronger than Flamemon, but likely evolved around the same time. Meaning that he's had over a month and a half of training, loading, and experience to bring to bear against Verge, coupled with a pretty solid speed advantage and very likely armor-penetrating lightsabers.
 
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This is what happens when you want to tangle with the big boys: you get the big boys. Verge wants hard, challenging, brutal fights, and you guys voted on the option where he seeks out a hard fight. But now because his chances are bad you guys wanna back out? Come on, this is fun! Really difficult fights are the most entertaining kind!
 
This is what happens when you want to tangle with the big boys: you get the big boys. Verge wants hard, challenging, brutal fights, and you guys voted on the option where he seeks out a hard fight. But now because his chances are bad you guys wanna back out? Come on, this is fun! Really difficult fights are the most entertaining kind!
And if we lose? We may survive, but that means Verge is laid up while the others are forced to try and take the fortress. Actions have consequences and I for one don't like the possible consequences of Verge dueling and losing.
 
And if we lose? We may survive, but that means Verge is laid up while the others are forced to try and take the fortress. Actions have consequences and I for one don't like the possible consequences of Verge dueling and losing.
Verge not dueling also has consequences: Wolfmon will continue carving into the Host forces until literally everyone is unable to fight anymore and no one has any healing left. Then he'll turn around and go into the tunnel and attack the Host forces inside from behind. You're talking about how dangerous this guy is: do you think we can beat these fortified troops who are in their own environment faster than he can beat the Host troops out in the open?
 
Something else to consider.

Verge observed that Wolfmon is fighting in an extremely efficient manner, using the minimum effort possible to defeat his opponent, often making them hurt each other with their own attacks.

Fighting a single, powerful opponent makes him unable to use that fighting style to the same extent.

Furthermore, we don't actually need to defeat him to accomplish our objective. Tiring him out significantly is sufficient. Lose the duel, but force him to retreat so that he doesn't get mobbed by our allies in the aftermath.

Lastly, making it a 1v1 fight should give Beat a better idea of what to expect from Blitzmon.
 
Something else to consider.

Verge observed that Wolfmon is fighting in an extremely efficient manner, using the minimum effort possible to defeat his opponent, often making them hurt each other with their own attacks.

Fighting a single, powerful opponent makes him unable to use that fighting style to the same extent.

Furthermore, we don't actually need to defeat him to accomplish our objective. Tiring him out significantly is sufficient. Lose the duel, but force him to retreat so that he doesn't get mobbed by our allies in the aftermath.

Lastly, making it a 1v1 fight should give Beat a better idea of what to expect from Blitzmon.
Er, I don't think Beat is going to be standing around and watching the fight. The others will be doing stuff at the same time. I'm also pretty sure that against a single powerful opponent, such a defensive style might be even more effective. I do agree that we should fight tho.
 
Er, I don't think Beat is going to be standing around and watching the fight. The others will be doing stuff at the same time. I'm also pretty sure that against a single powerful opponent, such a defensive style might be even more effective. I do agree that we should fight tho.
I meant less effective in that he can't make enemies eliminate each other because there's only one of them and he can't eliminate the enemy with a single action because they're too strong for that.
 
Actions have consequences
In other breaking news scientists have concluded that water is indeed wet. Now on to Olly with the weather!

Ha....

Yes actions hsve consequences, for example telling Holyangemon that we would fight a Legendary Warrior has had the totally unforeseen consequence of.... gasp having us fight a Legendary Warrior. What a world.

More seriously, I'm gettting tired of this fear mongering. I'm choosing the option I feel is more in character and am willing to risk the consequences of failure.

Conversely you haven't considered or are dismissing the consequences of NOT fighting him. Especially after saying we would. Letting him ravage the mooks could lose us this battle, could result in other characters dying, and doesnt preclude us still having to fight him later when we're in worse condition since going with Sparks has is acting as a meat shield.

Both sides have pros and cons. Drex told both of us in Discord that if we faced Lobo here it would be a fight, not a curbstomp. That means neither side will have an overwhelming advantage of the other unlike the current situation with him dominating our mooks.

Most importantly we're on this battlefield to earn renown and test ourself. It's not a test if you know the answer, and we wont always be able to pick fights we know we can win. It's time to step up to the plate and swing, or go home.
 
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So weird thought here, but do you think the Host would be willing to buy this guys contract if given the chance?

As Wolfmon is only here as a merc and doesn't seem to want to kill anyone, while also being a light type mon.
 
[X] You'll accept his wishes, on allowing the two to have an honorable fight. However, make it clear that you'll intervene if he's about to get deleted. Beat is your ally. Perhaps even a friend (despite his hate of the word) and his nemesis is a legendary warrior. Beat's strength and speed have grown immensely since their last encounter, perhaps enough to tip the balance in his favour.

[X] Go up and challenge this Legendary Warrior to one on one combat. The potential for an honorable duel aside, it should also open up the rest of the Host to trying to break through the blockade. This could be your chance to earn renown.

Well I'm convinced, even if we lose the fight would still be a worthwhile experience so what the heck.
 
[X] You'll accept his wishes, on allowing the two to have an honorable fight. However, make it clear that you'll intervene if he's about to get deleted. Beat is your ally. Perhaps even a friend (despite his hate of the word) and his nemesis is a legendary warrior. Beat's strength and speed have grown immensely since their last encounter, perhaps enough to tip the balance in his favour.

[X] Attempt to make a coordinated push with your squad. Using Frame Reinforce should allow you to withstand the concentrated fire being poured out from the tunnel. With your body acting as his shield, Sparks will return fire, to hopefully defeat the defenders and minimize loss of life.
 
I have say a party of me wonders what we'll find if make it to this jerks collection, the guy is apparently a rival to Count but doesnn't use his for combat so I have a feeling if we get o well be seeing quit a few unfortunate Rookies/Champions.
 
The vote is currently 7-6 in favour of fighting Wolfmon. I'll be locking things in 2 hours.
Adhoc vote count started by drexal15 on Jan 3, 2019 at 5:19 PM, finished with 42 posts and 14 votes.

  • [X] You'll accept his wishes, on allowing the two to have an honorable fight. However, make it clear that you'll intervene if he's about to get deleted. Beat is your ally. Perhaps even a friend (despite his hate of the word) and his nemesis is a legendary warrior. Beat's strength and speed have grown immensely since their last encounter, perhaps enough to tip the balance in his favour.
    [x] Go up and challenge this Legendary Warrior to one on one combat. The potential for an honorable duel aside, it should also open up the rest of the Host to trying to break through the blockade. This could be your chance to earn renown.
    [X] Attempt to make a coordinated push with your squad. Using Frame Reinforce should allow you to withstand the concentrated fire being poured out from the tunnel. With your body acting as his shield, Sparks will return fire, to hopefully defeat the defenders and minimize loss of life.
    [X] Attempt to make a coordinated push with your squad. Using Frame Reinforce should allow you to withstand the concentrated fire being poured out from the tunnel. With your body acting as his shield, Sparks will return fire, to hopefully defeat the defenders and minimize loss of life.
 
[X] You'll accept his wishes, on allowing the two to have an honorable fight. However, make it clear that you'll intervene if he's about to get deleted. Beat is your ally. Perhaps even a friend (despite his hate of the word) and his nemesis is a legendary warrior. Beat's strength and speed have grown immensely since their last encounter, perhaps enough to tip the balance in his favour.

[X] Go up and challenge this Legendary Warrior to one on one combat. The potential for an honorable duel aside, it should also open up the rest of the Host to trying to break through the blockade. This could be your chance to earn renown.
 
She... she's literally a natural leader tho??? As in, she has a super strong charisma that's augmented by subconscious mind control. She followed Scratch because she saw him as a parent. She's just Verge's friend, and in a bad place emotionally right now. She listened to a couple of suggestions from him because she was having a mental breakdown.

She has RACIAL powers. That doesn't make her a leader, because she's doesn't want anything from others aside from being available. She's a natural follower, because whenever someone she likes expresses an opinion she hastens to revise her internal priorities so as to agree that she wanted to do this all along, even if she never knew This was a thing that could be done until a minute ago.
 
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