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Digimon Inheritance: A Heroic Lion's Turbulent Times (Finished)

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thamuzz said:
Okay, I'm curious: did you actually think that the other two options had even the slightest chance?
To clarify tone: I'm not hostile, I'm genuinely curious as to how things look from the other side of the QM screen, in particular the mindset connected to designing votes.
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I did. I tailored them to all be in character for Verge, heck I even used chastise to be a more negative term for the first option in an attempt to make it less appealing.

2nd option is big on power which I know questers love.

Third is the neutral option which puts things off until later, which I figure people might want to do if they're unsure of how to vote on the first two.
 
drexal15 said:
Is...is that what you think I'm doing? That I'm framing the votes so that one in particular will win?

That's...disheartening. It's never been my intention to do so.
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I don't think you're deliberately skewing the vote, no. That said, there are very distinct trends in SV voting and the chastise option very much has the flavor of the "right" option.
EDIT: Got ninja'd by your second post. SV is power-hungry, but doesn't like to roleplay it. If this were the choice between an immediate, tangible benefit and the "right" choice, well then you'd see some actual discrepancy in the votes.
EDIT: Just occurred to me that it sounded like the "protest vote" was directed at you! Sorry about that. It was aimed at SV's voting trends, rather than being an attack on you as a writer/QM.
 
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thamuzz said:
I don't think you're deliberately skewing the vote, no. That said, there are very distinct trends in SV voting and the chastise option very much has the flavor of the "right" option.
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God, there's not supposed to be a right option with these things, that's the whole point of having it be a quest. So you guys (the players) can shape things in meaningful ways.

Every option I put forth is supposed to be viable...which means I've been failing in my duty as a GM.
 
Does anyone else actually feel this way? I figure they're all equally valid and that they each have their own pros and cons.

"Friendship is Power"
Pros: Have a deeper connection and understanding with our allies and friends, be more likely to get their help in bad situations.
Cons: Ties us closer to the Host, may make it harder to cut ties if we find out anything really bad. Also means that as friends and allies we're expected to back up the others too, even if we don't necessarily agree with them. We also may be expected to conform to their views in some cases, like Pidmon seems to have done in his attempts to fit in. May put us in opposition to Sparks again, as with the Kotemon.

"Machiavelli-lite"
Pros: We're able to extend our reach further, and interact with more people, not turning down power even if it's something other allies might not agree with. Makes severing ties that much easier to do if it's needed, allows Verge to be his own Mon and loosens the grip that the Host has on us.
Cons: Makes it less likely for our allies to help us unless thee's some direct corresponding reward for doing so. Makes it harder to connect to others, because we're always looking at them as assets first and formost. Lunamon will be disappointed.

"Put it off for now"
Pros: Sparks is still mentally settling from his digivolution, we don't know how he'll feel in another few days or weeks. This gives him time to get some perspective.
Cons: It also gives Sparks time to lock into this mindset, and possibly sunder our bonds of brotherhood.

Frankly the friendship route has more cons to it in the long run, and thus more dramatic potential. While it feels morally "right" it also opens up Verge to betrayal.
 
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[X] Chastise Sparks for being so ruthless about using other digimon like that. Revenge or not, you should have limits. You think really shouldn't ever think of his friends as tools; that's… just wrong. The bond should always be genuine.

I.... honestly do not want to go down the manipulative route, there's oh-so many things that could go horribly wrong with it, it's not even funny.
 
I forgot to mention it before, but wow, Beat's Agility went past 180 when I was sure it would be stuck there. This guy's talents must be shitlicious.
 
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Anyway, this shit is officially fucking ominous. This squad all being together is not a coincidence, I refuse to believe that. There is some hidden agendas and string pulling, I'm telling you. No fucking way would a group like this, with so many connecting threads, come together entirely by chance. In fact, I'm starting to wonder if the attack on the village wasn't intended to push Verge here...
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Something I'll say (from information already stated IC) is that Scratch picked Beat and Sparks specifically from the Orphanage.

The Angemon who picked up Pidmon was part of Scratch's squad before he was transferred.

Ardat was jealous that the Sergeant is teaching Verge magic, however she also stated before she prefers wind Sorcery over everything else and kind of lives up to that statement with how she fights.
 
[X] Chastise Sparks for being so ruthless about using other digimon like that. Revenge or not, you should have limits. You think really shouldn't ever think of his friends as tools; that's… just wrong. The bond should always be genuine.

I never betrayed a friend, and when a friend mine do something stupid is on our responsabilities tell them that on the the face. Sometimes hit the back of his head to ask him to stop of thinking with his ass.
 
justinkal said:
Was curious due to the mention that he doesn't seem to be making any progress and the fact that a few of his stats are exact multiples of 10.
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Funny enough that was just how the math ended up working out. His hard caps are for the most part 10 points higher.

For a normal rookie he'd be considered absolutely ridiculous at this point. His speed is at where a "Normal" non speed focused champion has it at the start (I.e. 180)
Adhoc vote count started by drexal15 on Sep 27, 2018 at 1:54 PM, finished with 43 posts and 15 votes.
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Adhoc vote count started by drexal15 on Sep 28, 2018 at 1:20 PM, finished with 55 posts and 15 votes.
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Hmm, yeah, Scratch is either up to some shit or being manipulated by someone who is up to some shit. We're still greatly lacking information in terms of what the hell Pidmon's deal is, but the puzzle has another important piece now, and he's definitely not normal, mentally or physically. But still, all of this ties back to Scratch, with such an interconnected team ending up together on one squad; interconnected in ways that normally there'd be no way Scratch could know about.

There is some serious manipulation going on here, by Scratch or by someone else. Some kind of absurdly complicated plan no doubt.
 
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thamuzz said:
How does Scratch not initially wanting Verge fit into that?
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Scratch lying to deflect attention, or testing Sparks and Verge, or him not being aware of the plan but the real manipulator having been the one who got Verge and Sparks sent to the orphanage. There's a lot of gaps in knowledge preventing educated guessing, but this squad is not a coincidence.
 
drexal15 said:
Funny enough that was just how the math ended up working out. His hard caps are for the most part 10 points higher.

For a normal rookie he'd be considered absolutely ridiculous at this point. His speed is at where a "Normal" non speed focused champion has it at the start (I.e. 180)
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Yeah, being that far beyond the normal Rookie caps is also why I was curious if they were hardcapped.
 
Remember, Verge had been having a visitor that's actually there during some of his dreams back in the village. It might be that the Malkiamon or however her name is spelled is attempting to manipulate things for her own purposes.
 
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Hmm, yeah, Scratch is either up to some shit or being manipulated by someone who is up to some shit. We're still greatly lacking information in terms of what the hell Pidmon's deal is, but the puzzle has another important piece now, and he's definitely not normal, mentally or physically. But still, all of this ties back to Scratch, with such an interconnected team ending up together on one squad; interconnected in ways that normally there'd be no way Scratch could know about.

There is some serious manipulation going on here, by Scratch or by someone else. Some kind of absurdly complicated plan no doubt.
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It's digimon, if there wasn't some completely crazy plan or a dozen being plotted by varying mons it wouldn't be proper.

The real thing we got to worry about if is we are in a plan to create a god or not, since those things always end up going really pear shaped sooner or later.
 
TempestK said:
Remember, Verge had been having a visitor that's actually there during some of his dreams back in the village. It might be that the Malkiamon or however her name is spelled is attempting to manipulate things for her own purposes.
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Huh. I never thought of that, but it's possible. A lot of those dreams came at really convenient times, so I suppose some of them being false visions used to manipulate Verge is possible, yeah.
 
I'm thinking that even if someone is trying to manipulate things, how long will it take for us to go off-script? Especially with SV guiding Verge's actions, and the repercussions of those actions.
 
TempestK said:
I'm thinking that even if someone is trying to manipulate things, how long will it take for us to go off-script? Especially with SV guiding Verge's actions, and the repercussions of those actions.
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Depends on the plotter and the goals really, since us getting invested and helping our squad could all be a part of the plan to make sure something else happens. As Verge has a decent amount of soft power in the party and that will only grow in time as the guy pretty much becomes the heart of the group.
 
Considering how his stats are barely improving anymore, and how improving talents through training is much easier for Verge's cheater body than for normal mon, Beat should really focus on just sparring every day until he evolves in order to raise his combat skill. That or just train his Special and Spirit for a bit since those haven't slowed down yet.
 
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Considering how his stats are barely improving anymore, and how improving talents through training is much easier for Verge's cheater body than for normal mon, Beat should really focus on just sparring every day until he evolves in order to raise his combat skill. That or just train his Special and Spirit for a bit since those haven't slowed down yet.
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Think he would listen if Verge or Sparks point such a idea out to him?
 
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Considering how his stats are barely improving anymore, and how improving talents through training is much easier for Verge's cheater body than for normal mon, Beat should really focus on just sparring every day until he evolves in order to raise his combat skill. That or just train his Special and Spirit for a bit since those haven't slowed down yet.
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Main problem is that as a speed-focused fighter, would he be able to spare the time to utilize the spells? Wormmon doesn't strike me as an inherently mystical line.
 
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