drexal15
Proud GM
I'm glad you thought so! I wanted him to have a decent first impression.
Indeed. Though I should mention it's quite literally been all of two days IC since shit went down.
Digimon Inheritance: A Heroic Lion's Turbulent Times (Finished)
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Acutally it will not be, because it's not something that has been in existence and stable from the beginning, rather it's the result of the player repeatingly choosing wrath and thus tapping into the Virus data that been implated into us in our previous live, resulting in it spreading well like a virus in our body
Also this Virus Vaccine combo is quite frankly terrible if compared to pure types
We are worse against Virus then a normal Vaccine, because our Virus body takes more damage then a Vaccine one would
We are Worse against Data then a normal Virus, because our attacks are Vaccine based
And we are plain and simple terrible against Vaccine, if somewhat better then a pure Virus due the fact that our attacks aren't Virus based
an experiment of the demonlord of wrath as we saw during the dreams, what we tap here every time we choose wrath is most likely a tiny bit of Daemons own data that has been put into our digicore
Yeah and that has to change, however it won't change if Sparks pushes the other mon away just because he has Verge and thus feels confidence because the others are scared of us
I know leaving him would make things worse for him, but it would also make him more approachable to the other digimon
It's not his world view that I want to change, but how it combined with his character interacts with his surroundings
I want to prevent him from thinking it is ok to go full-thug, just because he is strong or because he has strong friends
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drexal15
Proud GM
After what happened Sparks has become a very bitter, angry, and scared digimon. His dream of being a hero with Flamemon and Verge was brutally crushed, while his mentor and family figures were all deleted. Add his Virus attribute into the mix...
It's not that he's going full thug. It's that seeing others scared currently gives him more confidence (if only temporarily) and he's far more willing to laugh at the misfortunes of others.
Verge with his goal to still be a hero is a good influence on his psyche. Take that away and he'll be left to fully develop himself on his own path.
Which despite his current form, isn't a very bright one.
Edit: Just to be clear, I'm talking about leaving Sparks alone entirely, not the direct vote.
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I'm sorry, but What? That doesn't make any sense! How in the Dark Zone does him becoming worse make him more approachable?! Heck that would make him more likely to push others away! If he can't trust Verge his only friend to be there for him why the hell would he except some random mon he hardly knows to do it!
And if you want to change him so much be there for him and help him become a better mon. Don't push him away when he's at his lowest.
How are we supposed to find a incredibly fast champion who left weeks ago on a vengeance trip?
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I said it's fine because digivolving would fix as Frigimon said, which is kind of redundant as our goal is to acquire more power and thus digivolve anyway as for the dual vaccine and virus attribute, we are not unique about that.
Normal Omegamons has the multitype of Vaccine and Data, while Omegamon Alter-S - Wikimon - The #1 Digimon wiki has Vaccine and Virus type same as us, also based on what is actually known, multitypes would actually have the opposite effect of what you said, we don't take more damage against Virus its Data that take extra damage from Virus, we could do more damage to Data and Virus, due to our Vaccine Virus data.
So all in all I don't see a disadvantage about this considering Verge's goals and the fact that digivolving into champion would fix this.
Omegamon Alter-B - Wikimon - The #1 Digimon wiki also has the same Vaccine Virus attribute.
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Dude these are the very first steps of being a thug
You do realize that just because we won't swear ourselve to him that we won't stop interacting with him right?
And like I said before, currently us interacting with him, is what makes unapproachable, because everybody but Beat is fucking scared of us which is something that needs to change for Sparks health
Which means either that we go and start being friendly with everybody, something that I can't see happening currently or that we make Sparks a seperate etentity in their minds, something they can approach because it's not the scarred Giant with the evil glare that they are talking to
drexal15
Proud GM
My point is thst he himself is not actively being intentionally thuggish at the moment. Right now any effects are entirely unintentional on his part.
Yes. Which is why I made sure to edit in my previous response that I was referring to the idea of leaving Sparks alone entirely which very much was what seemed to be what was being suggested.
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Okay than tell me. How is making him worse and more insecure supposed to make him better to approach? Answer It won't.
Instead of being intimidation Sparks will drive them off. After all leaving him alone when he's at his first steps will make it worse.
Also no we wouldn't be interacting with him because that would show us having a connection with him scaring away the other digimon, ultimately defeating your whole purposes for saying no in the first place.
Not to mention how that it can have negative feelings towards Verge be created.
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That is completly the opposite of our situation
Omegamons body is an even fusion, which makes his body as well as his attacks based on the mons that make him up, so where Verge has the body of a Virus, with only his drills still being Vacccine data, Omegamons body is literally both Data and Vaccine
drexal15
Proud GM
Just a small correction. Purple fur and the half of his body directly under it with it are still Vaccine.
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Yeah because that is literally the worst thing that can happen, that Sparks has a peaceful live but hates us, oh woe us just how will we ever survive,
Because he is not together with the fucking Giant killer mole, you know the thing that send every other rookie running from their tables during the first part of the previous update
Also Sparks will not drive them off, he doesn't even have to confidence for that as seen during the journey to the town, where Sparks was to scared from encountering an unkown feral digimon and behaved like Verge during the first updates
And in case it escaped you these guys are children and where children can be incredible cruel they can also be incredible kind
some of them will approach him to be his friends, out of simple kindness, because thats what children do
And if not, then Frigimon will step in because that is what caretakers do
Dude we are sharing a room with him, thus we will interact with him anyway, and it's not like that will change, in any case it might even secure him some brony points because he has to share his room with the scary Drimogemon
There we can always check up on him
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Well what this means is, we don't take extra damage from Vaccine if hit from the Vaccine part, and we don't take extra damage from Data if hit in the Virus part.
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Ah didn't see that and yeah, never I would advocate to leaving Sparks all alone, just enough that our terryfing presence doesn't unmake his chances for peaceful social interactions
Oh, thanks for pointing that out because I clearly misunderstood the sentence
I thought literally only his drills were left unharmed from the virus data, but after a reread it was clear that only my english failed me
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For your whole kindness stick you seem to completely ignore the cruelty after how it's incredibly easy to take joy in pick on those who are different. Say like a one armed mon?
Also what happens if he makes friends with the wrong crowd and influence him to become even worse?
And what's stopping Sparks from just focusing on training and ignoring others to get stronger? He hates the Count and Repulsa to ya know.
Making alot of assumptions huh? Why would any of the Rookies want tobe his friend in the first place? The new Strange Mon who laugh at others misery. Figimon is just one mon and has no possible way to make sure he's all right nor has a reason to look out for one specific mon.
Also peaceful? He's going to join the Host. No way his life's going to be that. Especially since he wants revenge as well.
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Dude it appears to me that you either were never in a kindergarten or never interacted much with children so let me tell you something
SInce the earliest days of my childhood I had a food allergy, which meant that sometimes I got different food then everybody else during lunch, of course some children took offence to the fact that from their PoV I got the preferential treatment, thus they tried to bully me, exculde me from games, etc. you proabably get it
Was it bad, of course, nobody likes to be excluded
At same time however I had children who just wanted to play with me or wanted to be my friends despite the supposed preferential treatment,
Or those who simple saw a kid they wanted to play with during a particular game
Children are simple and thoughtless like that, which is what makes able to be kind and cruel at the same time
What I'm trying to say here is: that what you say is definitly possible, but that at the same time the oppsite is also possible and that you will hardly find a more controlled and secure setting for things like that in the digiworld, then a daycare run by a kind digimon in a secure town and currently the only thing that stands in the way to Sparks making friends is our terrifying presence
I honestly don't think here is something like a 'wrong crowd',
1. because they are to young for that
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2. Because I doubt Frigimon would tolerate stuff like that
because thats what children do, they simple make friends
Also he only laughed at Beat who isn't particular well liked and his type of character should get well along with Dracmon who enjoys pranks
Also Frigimon has all the means and reasons to look out for Sparks and Verge, simple because Frigimon is an caretaker and is as thus dedicated towards the well being of all those under her wing, espcially those 'poor cuties who lost all their friends and had a horrible time' like Sparks and Verge
In fact you can expect Frigimon to mother them for quite some time, especially Verge who also has a death sentence hanging over him, unless we convince her that we are in fact quite mature enough to handle our situations ourself
SInce the earliest days of my childhood I had a food allergy, which meant that sometimes I got different food then everybody else during lunch, of course some children took offence to the fact that from their PoV I got the preferential treatment, thus they tried to bully me, exculde me from games, etc. you proabably get it
Was it bad, of course, nobody likes to be excluded
At same time however I had children who just wanted to play with me or wanted to be my friends despite the supposed preferential treatment,
Or those who simple saw a kid they wanted to play with during a particular game
Children are simple and thoughtless like that, which is what makes able to be kind and cruel at the same time
What I'm trying to say here is: that what you say is definitly possible, but that at the same time the oppsite is also possible and that you will hardly find a more controlled and secure setting for things like that in the digiworld, then a daycare run by a kind digimon in a secure town and currently the only thing that stands in the way to Sparks making friends is our terrifying presence
I honestly don't think here is something like a 'wrong crowd',
1. because they are to young for that
and
2. Because I doubt Frigimon would tolerate stuff like that
because thats what children do, they simple make friends
Also he only laughed at Beat who isn't particular well liked and his type of character should get well along with Dracmon who enjoys pranks
Also Frigimon has all the means and reasons to look out for Sparks and Verge, simple because Frigimon is an caretaker and is as thus dedicated towards the well being of all those under her wing, espcially those 'poor cuties who lost all their friends and had a horrible time' like Sparks and Verge
In fact you can expect Frigimon to mother them for quite some time, especially Verge who also has a death sentence hanging over him, unless we convince her that we are in fact quite mature enough to handle our situations ourself
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Dude it seems like you don't understand that we're not in a kindergarten.
And again you go making assumptions. What proof do you even have that will even work?
It seems you forgot that these are Rookies and as such are more mentally mature than little children. Also it appears that you didn't think of the possibility that they could do things without her Knowledge. Frigimon is not all knowing.
That's what Human children do. Digimon aren't humans. Not to mention the fact that mentality is meant for little kids. Not Rookies.
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Tam Lin
The Evolution QM
[X] Pledge to Sparks that you'll join him to delete Count and his servants. After all, you were planning to delete them all anyway. However, point out that Lunamon and Thresh are still alive. The two of you need to save them as well, and if you don't make it with whatever time you have left... You'll need his help to do it.
Man, what do we do with that demon data eye.
Hmm. Maybe we'll evolve into Devidramon
Man, what do we do with that demon data eye.
Hmm. Maybe we'll evolve into Devidramon
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Pretty sure Devidramon is not on the table, in fact I'm pretty sure Verge cannot digivolve into any Devil or Angel type champion digimon, right now.
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He is the collective gestalt of questers.
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We get rid of it, it's preventing Verge's eye from healing, and it's from Repulsa the only way I accept Verge having Data from her, is when Verge deletes her and loads her data up.
Tam Lin
The Evolution QM
So basically, excise the entire eye area and just regrow it.
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Indeed.
RomanceNinja
The Pun-isher (Official Meme Wizard)
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[X] Pledge to Sparks that you'll join him to delete Count and his servants. After all, you were planning to delete them all anyway. However, point out that Lunamon and Thresh are still alive. The two of you need to save them as well, and if you don't make it with whatever time you have left... You'll need his help to do it.
...Jeez, what a doozy of an option here. The second option where we say Sparks is weak and we will be stronger alone really irks me though.
Dang it, if only we were aloud to do a write-in here. I would of went with Verge choosing to go himself because he doesn't want Sparks to die like the others did.
...Jeez, what a doozy of an option here. The second option where we say Sparks is weak and we will be stronger alone really irks me though.
Dang it, if only we were aloud to do a write-in here. I would of went with Verge choosing to go himself because he doesn't want Sparks to die like the others did.
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I knew that the little guy was badass as he evolves on a Kamen Rider. And also
[X] Pledge to Sparks that you'll join him to delete Count and his servants. After all, you were planning to delete them all anyway. However, point out that Lunamon and Thresh are still alive. The two of you need to save them as well, and if you don't make it with whatever time you have left... You'll need his help to do it.
Fuck Lone Hero Tropes! Loyalty all the way! I always been high on that. We supported Flamemon and we will do the same with Sparks. It probably ruins my plans to make Verge a Dorulumon but at the moment it was impossible to reach that level of stats on short time.
[X] Pledge to Sparks that you'll join him to delete Count and his servants. After all, you were planning to delete them all anyway. However, point out that Lunamon and Thresh are still alive. The two of you need to save them as well, and if you don't make it with whatever time you have left... You'll need his help to do it.
Fuck Lone Hero Tropes! Loyalty all the way! I always been high on that. We supported Flamemon and we will do the same with Sparks. It probably ruins my plans to make Verge a Dorulumon but at the moment it was impossible to reach that level of stats on short time.
Tam Lin
The Evolution QM
Can we at least put it on a staff and hand it off to candlemon or something?