It helps Digimon aren't people and their emotions/personalities vary super heavily.
There's also the fact that, as Luna has so brilliantly demonstrated, time changes a 'mon. Astamon wasn't always the malicious schemer he is today. once he was simply a fella called Patches, someone who lost his way, forgot his ideals, and fell to evil.
 
So the bet is basically we get luna back ( which will probably undo all her hard work and she's there of her own free will) and we'd risk Verg's daughter being turned into some kind of weapon? Why wold we agree to this deal? Like maybe next update there will be more added but right now this deal looks awful.
but I'm really not into misery like that.
Uhh, you sure about that?
 
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So the bet is basically we get luna back ( which will probably undo all her hard work and she's there of her own free will) and we'd risk Verg's daughter being turned into some kind of weapon? Why wold we agree to this deal? Like maybe next update there will be more added but right now this deal looks awful.

Uhh, you sure about that?
Because the alternative is risking her being executed for treason, or him finding a way too brainwash her/use her power for his own plans.

And the fact is, unless he's planning to give Repulsa the Human Spirit, its unlikely she will defeat us.
 
There's also the fact that, as Luna has so brilliantly demonstrated, time changes a 'mon. Astamon wasn't always the malicious schemer he is today. once he was simply a fella called Patches, someone who lost his way, forgot his ideals, and fell to evil.
Methinks he was already plenty evil with Daemon and stuff

It's just that losing his boss and friends made him even worse and now everything is a pawn in his chess game of world domination and its impossible for him to grow close ever again to anyone
 
Methinks he was already plenty evil with Daemon and stuff

It's just that losing his boss and friends made him even worse and now everything is a pawn in his chess game of world domination and its impossible for him to grow close ever again to anyone
Drex himself stated this though.

I can confirm this little bit. At one point in his life Astamon had Ideals, and not particularly evil ones either.


So he was probably considerably on the lighter side of gray compared to the rest of his crew.
 
28th Of Wood (Evening) A Test Of Character
Even through the intense surge of fury you can't help but feel a sense of surprise when your Kuma Tsume makes contact with Astamon's jaw. A feeling that is only redoubled when Sparks' fireblast hits home a moment later, carrying him towards the chamber's wall. The Demon Lord impacts a millisecond later, sinking halfway into the surface-before immediately halting in place.

Fist still outstretched, you pause as the roaring golden pyre is snuffed out by a single pulse of Sloth, then blink in shock.

He made no move to defend himself. Why?

Astamon regards the two of you with eerie calmness from the indent his body made in the wall, aura still utterly stable and controlled. He's not angry, frightened or even excited. All you can pick up is… satisfaction?

"Damnit Verge, why'd ya have to go and punch him?!"

"... you were in the midst of unleashing a spell."

"Yeah, but you hit him first!" Through the faux complaints, Sparks makes his way up to your pauldron, another spell at the ready. You take a defensive stance, waiting for the inevitable counterattack.

However Astamon merely pops free from the singed wall, then sets his jaw back into place with one hand. That vile, damnable smirk is still plastered upon his face.

"Alright listen up ya bastard. I don't care if you're the Gloaming High Lord, stay away from my friggen' niece or else." You add a deep growl to his statement, claws popping free from their sheaths. It hadn't been long since you'd used Tekkousou, but you're fully willing to try and use that technique again.

"Good." And Astamon surprises you again by nodding in respect. "Very good."

"What?!"

C-come again?

"Never compromise on that moral resolve of yours." The confounding Demon Lord murmurs somberly, ignoring your threats so he can plop back into his seat. "Those ideals are what makes you worthy."

Worthy?… he-what is-Ideals?-Verge you…

"Sonuvabitch." Sparks curses softly in realization. "You knew we were never gonna take that stupid bet, didn't you?"

"I had hoped for this reaction, but it wasn't a certainty." The Demon Man admits, one hand idly rubbing his jaw. "And had you accepted I would have been disappointed, but gotten rid of a thorn all the same."

"Then, you spent the last minutes provoking us as… a test?" You shoot the clearly not-well digimon a baffled look. "Why?"

"Your measure has been taken, and not found wanting." Astamon explains with a low, happy chuckle. It makes your hackles rise up again. "You two might really be the ones to do it."

… is he about to ask for a favor?

"Er, what exactly are we supposed to be doin'?" Your friend asks cautiously.

"I've lived long enough to see my companions compromise on everything they once believed in, then fall despite, or perhaps even because of those betrayals." He explains with a very tired sigh. "And I've turned Daemon's hope for independence into a horde of slavering wretches." Astamon seems to sink in on himself, his presence suddenly seeming a great deal smaller and less impressive than before.

He just looks… tired.

"You want a worthy death."

"Spirits below…" Sparks curses. "You actually are crazy."

"Possibly." And just like that the Demon Lord's larger than life presence is back. "But I've never been a mon to stand by and let myself be slain." His smirk returns next. "I'm merely aware that deletion is a possibility in the coming months, and I've accepted that. At least should my demise comes from the correct set of hands."



You and Sparks share a glance of disbelief, then turn to look at Astamon for an explanation. The Demon Lord calmly reaches for the damaged table, and then flicks it over.

"Revealing everything now would spoil things, I can't have that." The Gloaming's leader muses. "And as Duftmon would say, where's the fun in that?"

Duftmon?

"He another old friend of yours?"

"We've worked together before." He chuckles, finding vast amounts of amusement in something. "And still hold Gentlemon's bets from time to time."

… why does it sound familiar?

"Tch, sounds like a real jackass."

"Quite." With that final nod the Demon Lord stands up and turns his full attention on you. "Now before I go, there is one final lesson to impart." Something about his tone sets your body on edge, and the dark aura manifesting around his leg only solidifies your concern. "Consider this recompense for my actions today."

"Oi! What do you think you're-" Is as far as the Wisemon gets before a wave of Astamon's hand and an application of will crushes him against the floor. Annoyance dealt with, the Demon Man lazily raises his right leg up and-

"Maverick."

=== Choose One:

[]Observe.

[]Defend.

===AN: There's a few things from the outline I ended up leaving out from the final draft. Spelling a few key details out directly would be… too obvious. As for the Bet… has Verge come across as a mon that would ever bet his daughter's life?... and also huh, this ended up being shorter than I expected, only around eight hundred words.
 
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So even now, Patches still has some measure of 'light' in him. seems he's resigned himself to the fact that if he can't be the Hero that unites the Server, then he'll be the Villain who forces it to.
And if it means cultivating a Hero to inevitably strike him down, he'll do so gladly.



....Fucking hell, he's gotta be voiced by Jun Fukuyama/Johnny Young Bosch. man has his own Zero Reverse plan going!
 
[X]Observe.

After all of this, Astamon killing Verge would be pointless. So observe and see if we can learn something.
 
[X]Observe.

So essentially the only reason Luna's rebellion is still a thing is because Astamon has crippling depression from all his losses.

Also new move that's cool and it might be Verge's new go to kick attack as Astamon's Maverick is essentially kick but with Dark energy added on to it, much like how Tekkousou is just claw just with Sovereign energy added.
 
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Ahhhh the old "I've lived long enough to see myself and everyone I care about become people we would have hated, but I can't quite bring myself to end it all so I'll have someone else do it instead" gambit. It's a little funny no one ever thought Astamon may have been looking to join all his old friends in death...
 
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[X] Defend

Yeah, I'm not trusting this and I'm still rather pissed about Astamon shooting the mayor in the spine and casually making very pointed "suggestions" about those Verge cares about.

So a simple all that was a test and such, yeah that isn't going to get me lower our guard here. There is way more going on here and I for one do not believe we should be so quick to relax around or trust the leader of the Freaking Gloaming after just one talk.
 
He's pointedly presenting Daemon's Gloaming as a well intentioned independence movement that he dragged down, when we know for a fact Daemon was a seemingly far shittier person than Patches. He was initially willing to make SistermonNoir a sacrifice, he had no compunctions about making the Slayer, and Daemon would have no respect for our comradery with Pit when he should have tightly bound us to Pit's cause…

Astamon is trying to present himself as 'well intentioned, but ruining a greater mon's work'… when that doesn't map at all. Daemon was a pretty terrible person… of course, we know that SistermonNoir referres to Astamon as Patches, and Patches is pretty damn protective of her from what we've seen.

[X]Observe.
 
Given Verge's personality, I doubt that Observe involves totally dropping his guard. Especially given how focused he is when it comes to martial arts.
Maybe, but we are at least voting on what would be his focus doing.

An I would like to point out since Verge and Sparks attacked first, Astamon could totally put more oomph in this return attack while using the excuse of defending himself to do enough damage to take us out of the tournament.

Since he would want his side to win the tournament I would wager and if one of the favored to win gives him a easy opening to take him out, I can easily see him being clever enough to do such.
 
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An I would like to point out since Verge and Sparks attacked first, Astamon could totally put more oomph in this return attack while using the excuse defending himself to do enough damage to take us out of the tournament.
Except he called this "recompense". Not retribution. It implies a payment.
 
I'm surprised no one's picked this up yet. Astamon did a certain namedrop.
He's pointedly presenting Daemon's Gloaming as a well intentioned independence movement that he dragged down, when we know for a fact Daemon was a seemingly far shittier person than Patches. He was initially willing to make SistermonNoir a sacrifice, he had no compunctions about making the Slayer, and Daemon would have no respect for our comradery with Pit when he should have tightly bound us to Pit's cause…
Consider what else he said here:

"I've lived long enough to see my companions compromise on everything they once believed in"

That would most likely include Daemon.

Now, consider the relationship Astamon has with Noir.
 
Except he called this "recompense". Not retribution. It implies a payment.
Thing is, that can still be in effect if he thinks one or more of the following.

A) That what we learn from the the attack is payment enough even if it takes us out of the tournament.
B) If Verge being taken out of the tournament is something he thinks will be helpful to us.
C) He is lying.

I mean, he can say all the nice things he wants and still fuck Verge, there is more than enough wiggle room there.
 
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