Confringentur 2; a Madoka Magica / Fate/Stay Night sequel

*Blink*

I just straight up forgot about medusa. Should I change it, then?
It is entirely up to you whether you change it or not. I'm not going to say one way or another; I just wanted to know why, if you had a reason, Saki was going with Homura, so that I could have Homura give a reason to Mirai. If you want to change it, that's fine. If you want to come up with a reason, that's also fine.

I'd kind of been hoping for @PlaguePaladin to give his own input, since I'm also waiting on him to answer my above question about how many teddy bears Mirai can make. It's becoming important, and I'm at a point where I can't really go on for much longer without knowing. I could if I really wanted to, but it doesn't feel as in-character for a girl who loves her bears as much as Mirai does to shrug and say "Idunno" when asked how many bears are currently under her command; you know?
 
It is entirely up to you whether you change it or not. I'm not going to say one way or another; I just wanted to know why, if you had a reason, Saki was going with Homura, so that I could have Homura give a reason to Mirai. If you want to change it, that's fine. If you want to come up with a reason, that's also fine.

K. Changed to Medusa goes Sewers and Saki goes with Mirai.
 
Day 29 Chapter 5
You find yourself forced to make an impossible choice. On one hand, you hate it when Kirika skips school. She put so much effort into studying so she could pass the entrance exam to Shirome High, and seeing her spit in the face of all her effort to skip school and goof off doesn't feel good to you. But on the other hand, you refuse to leave Minako home along by herself. Even if she's leaving for her parents place in just a few hours, that's still a few hours too many that you aren't going to be there watching her.

So, with your back against the wall, you cave and let Kirika skip school. "But understand this, young lady," you say as you pry your eldest daughter off of your waist. "As soon as we're done with this mess, you're going to work your butt off to make up for the lessons you missed. If that means making you miss out on time spent with Oriko, then that's what it'll be."

"But dad-!"

"Don't you 'but dad' your father," Minako says. "I know what the situation is like, but we're still being very generous, letting you skip as much school as you have. It's perfectly fair to make you put your studies ahead of your girlfriend if that's what it takes to get you back up to speed in your classes."

Kirika is already sulking, but when Oriko deals the killing blow, "Don't worry, Minako-san, Archer," she says, "I'll make sure Kirika puts her studies first until she's caught up," you can see it in Kirika's eyes; she may have won this battle, but she knows she's lost the war.

"Don't worry, pumpkin," Minako says as she holds her eldest close. "You're really smart when you put your mind to it. I know you'll get up to speed in no time." Minako gives Kirika a kiss on top of her head, and she says to Oriko "Thank you for being so willing to keep my daughter in line. I don't know where she'd be without you."

"I'm sure she'd be just fine,' Oriko says. "Not that I have any intention of leaving her, but Kirika is a strong girl. I know she'd manage."

Oriko has to all but pry herself out of Kirika's embrace when it's finally time for her to leave for school, turning Kirika into a sulking mess, who only cheers up when you, yourself about to leave to meet up with Homura at the Saints' base, say your goodbyes. "Be a good girl for your mom, okay?" you say, hugging Kirika. "Homura and I will be back for you later in the day; and Oriko will too. Just sit tight until then."

"Bye, daddy," Kirika says. She manages to tear herself away from you, and she gives you the biggest smile she can manage when she says "I'll make sure mom stays safe while everyone else is out of the house."

You give Kirika a smile in return, and tousle her hair. "That's my girl," you say.

You let Kirika go, and turn your attention to her mother. Minako is standing there by the front door, looking irresistible – good lord, how does that woman do it? She's not even wearing anything particularly enticing and she still manages to look like she wants to take you to bed with her – but you have to pull yourself away before your goodbye kiss turns into something more heated.

"Stay safe," you both say to each other, almost at the same time. You let Minako go first, and she says "You come home safe with Homura, you hear?" as if you had any intention of coming home in any other way. "I don't know how late you'll be out, but I'd really like to see you and Homura again before I have to leave."

"I'll try to make sure we're all home before then," you say. "Hopefully, there'll even be enough time to do something small together, as a family. I'd like it if we could leave on a positive note."

"Mhm." Minako pulls herself in close, leaning her head on your shoulder as she whispers in your ear "Preferably, you'll also leave with me something to tide me over until this is done." Oh good lord, she just couldn't resist, could she? "You know what I'm in the mood for, don't you?"

"I'll see what we can do," you say. "But if it doesn't look like we can linger safely, I'll have to send you to your parents' house without." Minako is quick to pout as you attempt to refute her, but a kiss goodbye – this really is the last one, you swear – looks to be enough to tide her over, for now. "I'll see you later."

"Right," Minako says, finally letting you go. "See you later, Archer."

You leave, and make the long trek towards the MItakihara-Shirome border. You don't plan on walking on foot the entire way – you're a servant and without the need to be constrained by other people watching you, you see no reason to limit yourself to just walking – but you do walk just enough of the way that your absence wouldn't be conspicuous. You do plan to meet up with Homura, initially, but there's something else you need to take care of first.

Or rather, someone you need to pick up first. So, rather than head straight for the Saints' base where you know Homura will be, you first make a short detour to the train station at Mitakihara. You check the time on your phone; it's about the agreed-upon time when you arrive. "All right," you say to yourself. "Don't freak out. She's not going to be the same person you knew back then. It's only logical, right? She's had almost a decade to grow since then; of course she's not going to be the same person."

Your own Illyasviel von Einzbern died only a year after you had come to learn that she even existed, and save for that last iteration, the Illyasviel von Einzberns you met in your repetitions as an heroic spirit were all villainous psychopaths, not that far removed from the person she was when you first met her, but before you learned who she really was and what was hurting her.

So, suffice it to say, this will be a learning experience for you. You have no idea what to expect.

You certainly weren't expecting to see a girl, almost as tall as Homura, stepping out of the train car, completely unaccompanied. Her silver hair is the same length as you remember it being, but it looks so much longer on her, now that she's grown. You see her turning her head this way and that, until her cherry-red eyes lock on you, and she smiles, waving you over.

"Archer! Over here!" she calls out. You don't bother to make haste to Illya's side, because she's faster, rushing up and catching you before you've even cleared half the distance between you. "You know, Tohsaka told us all about how there were two of you now, but it's so good to actually meet you!"

You can't help but smile when you hear the excitement in her voice; "And you've gotten taller," you say. "How tall are you now? And, just how did you get so tall?"

"I'm one-hundred-fifty-eight centimeters now," Illya says. "As for 'how'…" Illya shrugs her shoulders. "Big brother and Tohsaka were trying to brainstorm ways to extend my lifespan, and somewhere along the line I just… Started growing again. I think I stopped growing a few years ago, and I've been stuck being this tall, but it's still so much better than looking like a little kid." Illya crosses her arms over her chest and gives you a mocking pout. "I'm almost thirty, Archer, and yet I can't even hold down a steady relationship because nobody wants to sleep with a woman who looks like a child."

You can't imagine. The fact that your own woman is very plainly a mature, adult woman, with plenty of womanly assets, does in no way cloud your thinking on the subject. "I see you've moved on from Shirou, then?" you ask. "Or just… Looking to explore yourself as a woman now that he's with Rin?"

"Both, really," Illya says. "Make no mistake, I still love the little idiot, but he seems happy enough with Tohsaka, so I'd rather love him like a brother, and keep looking elsewhere for someone who'll look at me the way he looks at Tohsaka." You don't let Illya know that you were holding your breath on that one. Sakura is more than enough; you don't think Minako would enjoy you bringing home another woman who has the hots for your younger self.

You aren't even going to touch the fact that Ortensia also technically counts, if what she's said about Avenger wearing your younger self's face counts.

Good lord, you aren't just as dense as an eroge protagonist, your younger self really is an eroge protagonist.


"So!" Illya claps her hands together, and the sound echoes throughout the mostly-empty train station. "You said you'd found yourself a wife and kids over the phone! I'm really glad to hear that. I'm glad that you found something that makes you happy again." You'd be perfectly content to leave the conversation there, but Illya just has to go the distance, and asks "When can I meet my nieces? If I'm going to be an aunt, then I need to do this right, and spoil them rotten to make up for all the birthdays I've missed."

"Calm down, Illya," you say. "You'll get to meet them soon enough." Illya's pouting is almost audible. "Actually, I'm on my way to meet up with Homura right now. She's a little further southeast of here, taking care of some business with some of the girls who have been helping us out on this… Insanity."

You won't mention that those girls are the reason things even got to this level of insanity. Without then, maybe Homura and her team could have dealt with Sidonia before it turned into the problem it is now.

"Mou~ don't tease me like that," Illya pouts. You weren't teasing. "All joking aside… Things around here are bad, aren't they? This looks like a pretty big train station, and yet it's completely empty. I know you explained all this to me over the phone, but… Seeing it for myself, it's so hard to believe it's really gotten this bad. Even the Holy Grail Wars didn't empty out Fuyuki quite like this."

"It's worse than it looks,' you say. "Sidonia's poisoned the soil and water tables with Grief as well as the leylines, and about half the city is either sick or dying from her corruption. Her familiars have ransacked large sections of the city, and Asunaro, the next city over, is completely flattened and had to be evacuated. She's got three different plans to commit large-scale genocide of every non-magical person on earth, and all of them are set to go off tomorrow when her power will be at its strongest. She's strong enough to manhandle servants like it's nothing, and she's even stolen right from under their masters' noses two of the strongest servants we had access to."

Illya takes in everything you've told her, and breathes. "Who?" she asks. "Which servants does she have at her disposal?"

"Sigurd and Hans Christian Andersen," you reply. "Sigurd is obvious; he's nothing but pure power, and Sidonia has about forty Command Seals at her disposal to pretty much always ensure he's compliant and that she can spirit him away if he gets so much as a scratch on him. Hans is… Weak enough, physically, that a stiff breeze could kill him, but it's his Noble Phantasm I'm afraid of. His former master said it could basically rewrite reality as he saw fit, provided he had enough prep time to write out what he wanted to happen."

"So you were hoping that some additional firepower would help tip the scales in your favour tomorrow."

"I hate to make it sound like that's all there is to it,' you say. "I'd also like to introduce you to my family; Homura and Kirika especially. I'm sure they'd love the chance to meet their aunt." You sigh, and force yourself to come clean. "But yes, the firepower that Berserker would bring to the table is an especially desirable goal."

"I'll help you," Illya says. "But I want to meet my nieces first."
 
making up for lost time is the update I had meant to post last night, featuring Archer going to pick Illya up at the train station. I hope I managed to capture her properly, but as with Sakura, it was difficult, especially since she hasn't had many speaking lines yet. I won't be dropping Heracles onto anything just yet; right now, this is Illya's time to shine. I'll be moving on, having Archer introduce her to Homura, just as soon as I get an answer from @PlaguePaladin about how many teddy bears he thinks it would be fair for Mirai to be summoning with both Kazumi and Kana's mana sources supplying her. I'm almost done with the update that was meant for today, but I need that information in order to finish up.
 
I'd kind of been hoping for @PlaguePaladin to give his own input, since I'm also waiting on him to answer my above question about how many teddy bears Mirai can make. It's becoming important, and I'm at a point where I can't really go on for much longer without knowing. I could if I really wanted to, but it doesn't feel as in-character for a girl who loves her bears as much as Mirai does to shrug and say "Idunno" when asked how many bears are currently under her command; you know?
I won't be dropping Heracles onto anything just yet; right now, this is Illya's time to shine. I'll be moving on, having Archer introduce her to Homura, just as soon as I get an answer from @PlaguePaladin about how many teddy bears he thinks it would be fair for Mirai to be summoning with both Kazumi and Kana's mana sources supplying her. I'm almost done with the update that was meant for today, but I need that information in order to finish up.
I'm really sorry! I was taking the ride back home, so I didn't have much of an opportunity to write. On the other hand, I can make votes again! Teddy-bear wise, let's assume that she grants them beyond-human strength through reinforcing them, and start with base bodies. We know that mana is more akin to matter than an energy, and it takes 5~ units for Shirou to make an average protophantasm, sword, or things like that, so let's say that a unit of mana is usually equal to a pound of matter. This means, if we're just going for the creation of teddy bears alone without accounting for control or empowerment, it's about 15 or so units if she's making person-sized ones. That means up to 1200 teddy bears at once if she drained the whole tank. But let's say that she's controlling them and putting them on the level of, say, Captain America; knowing that she probably has poor mana efficiency in Fate's mechanics, let's say she has the same mana-to-energy conversion rate as a campfire does with wood, meaning she has to spend around 3 units of mana to keep up a Captain America-level teddy bear for a day, accounting for only strength and not durability or agility or anything.

So, if she were to drain the whole tank and plan to use all her fuel in about just a day, she should be able to support about 1000 Captain America level teddy bears for an entire day. If she wanted to close in on roughly a C-rank servant, that would decrease to 500. A single unit of mana in Fate is worth a lot more than most people guess.
 
So, if she were to drain the whole tank and plan to use all her fuel in about just a day, she should be able to support about 1000 Captain America level teddy bears for an entire day. If she wanted to close in on roughly a C-rank servant, that would decrease to 500. A single unit of mana in Fate is worth a lot more than most people guess.
All right, follow-up question. Is this solely accounting for her own mana? Or is this also taking into account Kazumi and Kanna as well? Because they're also contributing to her mana supply during this test, remember?

Also, I love the way you worded this, because now I'm imagining a bear dressed in Cap's star-spangled onesie with a tiny cottonball shield, and it's adorable.
 
All right, follow-up question. Is this solely accounting for her own mana? Or is this also taking into account Kazumi and Kanna as well? Because they're also contributing to her mana supply during this test, remember?

Also, I love the way you worded this, because now I'm imagining a bear dressed in Cap's star-spangled onesie with a tiny cottonball shield, and it's adorable.
This is accounting for the 18,000 Kazumi number you gave me. With Niko and Mirai herself in the equation, the number probably gets even larger. Yikes.
 
This is accounting for the 18,000 Kazumi number you gave me. With Niko and Mirai herself in the equation, the number probably gets even larger. Yikes.
Sorry, not Kanna NIko. Hijiri Kanna, the homunculus. The one with massive amounts of mana; Niko only has above-average numbers, not the absurd amounts you'd expect from an homunculus.
 
Sorry, not Kanna NIko. Hijiri Kanna, the homunculus. The one with massive amounts of mana; Niko only has above-average numbers, not the absurd amounts you'd expect from an homunculus.
Yeah, that's my bad. Actually, if we assume that Hijiri has the same overall numbers as Ilya, who is said to have 'an effectively infinite amount of mana', then the numbers basically don't matter until we bring Ramesses into the equation, so Mirai went from 'probably the third-biggest chump in a fight due to her low mana' to 'the most powerful member of the group'.
 
So, if she were to drain the whole tank and plan to use all her fuel in about just a day, she should be able to support about 1000 Captain America level teddy bears for an entire day. If she wanted to close in on roughly a C-rank servant, that would decrease to 500. A single unit of mana in Fate is worth a lot more than most people guess.
Yeah, that's my bad. Actually, if we assume that Hijiri has the same overall numbers as Ilya, who is said to have 'an effectively infinite amount of mana', then the numbers basically don't matter until we bring Ramesses into the equation, so Mirai went from 'probably the third-biggest chump in a fight due to her low mana' to 'the most powerful member of the group'.

If you go out in the woods today
You're sure of a big surprise.~

If you go out in the woods today
You'd better go in disguise.~

For every bear that ever there was
Will gather there for certain, because~

Today's the day the teddy bears fuck you up~
 
so Mirai went from 'probably the third-biggest chump in a fight due to her low mana' to 'the most powerful member of the group'.
Today's the day the teddy bears fuck you up~
You know, this makes me kind of sad. Imagine what even one other member of our team could do with access to that much mana, except we can't afford that because Mirai genuinely needs that much mana to keep Ramesses fueled to capacity.

On an unrelated note, Plague, I was thinking, and it's really unrelated to what we're planning right now, but also kind of related in an abstract sort of way because of Kazumi, but- What colour should Void/Ether/the 5th Element/whatever be represented as? We've got Fire, Water, Wind, and Earth, but what about Void? Black? Purple? Both are colours I've associated with Kazumi before, black being obvious, and purple being the colour of her explosion magic, but maybe there's another colour? Like gold, or silver, that isn't as associated with Kazumi but is still associated with the idea? I know, this came out of nowhere, but it'll be important down the line, I promise.
 
Day 29 Chapter 6
[X] Plan Once More Into The Breach



"All right, this is going to be the final test of your Mystic Code. Hopefully it goes well, and we don't run into any serious accidents or have any serious incidents that we need to correct."

Hopefully.

Asami Saki has fitted Hijiri Kanna with the transmitter formerly belonging to Maki Kaoru, and she's standing next to Kazumi as the two of them look on at Wakaba Mirai. Actually, it would be more accurate to say that Kazumis is standing, and Hijiri Kanna is just trying her hardest to not sink into the ground and disappear forever. She's hidden her face as far underneath her hoodie as she can, and she's trying her best to focus on anywhere and anything but the people around her.

"Come on, Kazumi says to Hijiri Kanna, "It's not that bad, is it?"

"You all hate me," Hijiri Kanna says, flatly. She's not wrong. "I… I don't belong here. By rights, I should be dying in a cardboard box somewhere."

"That's not true at all," Kazumi says. "Yes, you made some really, really bad mistakes. You hurt Niko. You betrayed us all. But you don't deserve to die alone and in pain because of them."

"But I still deserve to die, right?"

"No!" Kazumi's shout draws Wakaba Mirai's attention away from the task at hand, causing you to clear your throat at Kazumi rather forcefully. "No," she says, in a much quieter tone. "You deserve the chance to live and to make up for all the bad things you've done. You can't do that if you're dead. Besides-" Kazumi leans over, and gives Hijiri Kanna a playful flick on her ear. Hijiri Kanna flinches, more from the approach and the physical contact than from any theoretical pain from Kazumi's action. "If you died, I bet your parents would be really sad."

"They're not my parents,' Hijiri Kanna says. "They never were. They were always her parents. I was just the imitation they put up with."

You roll your eyes. So does Kazumi. "You know, you and Niko are a lot more alike than you think," she says to Hijiri Kanna. "You're both so… So pessimistic about the idea that other people could love you in spite of your flaws. Sure, Niko's made some really bad mistakes – and the way she's treated you in the past is one of them – but her parents still love her. I still love her. I'm sure your parents will still love you, even after all of this. Just you wait- You'll get a new arm, and you and Niko will be able to make peace and live together as sisters, like you always should have been able to."

Hijiri Kanna stares at Kazumi, asking her "How could we be sisters if I was specifically made to replace her?"

"Don't let what you were made to be define you," Kazumi says. "Look at me-I was made to replace a girl that had died. But I'm not just going to be a carbon copy of Kazusa Michiru. I'm going to be my own Kazusa Michiru. If I want to inspire myself after what she was like, that's my choice. If I want to be a completely different Kazusa Michiru, then that's also my choice. So if you want to be a completely different Hijiri Kanna than the person Niko made you to be, then that's your choice."

Kazumi gives Hijiri Kanna a nudge with her elbow, and this time, Hijiri Kanna doesn't flinch at her approach. "Who knows? Maybe one day you'll find a cute girl you like, and then you two could go on double dates with me and Niko! I bet that'd be really fun."

"There's just no end to your optimism, is there?"

"Nah, I've just had more time to process all the bad stuff that's been done to me,' Kazumi says. "Yo've had plenty of time, too, but you've been swimming in it for so long that you haven't ever really tried processing it, have you? Just give it time. One day, you'll be able to look back and smile at just how far you've come from the you you are now."

You decide to tune the pair out, and to focus on the task at hand. "All right," you say to Wakaba Mirai. "This is going to be a more straightforward test than the combat situations I've had you and Ramesses put yourselves in previously. Hopefully, you find it more agreeable than just seeing how long you can hold out in a fight."

"Oh yeah?" Wakaba Mirai has changed into her battle costume, and her sword is slung over her shoulder as she stares at you. "Then tell me, what the heck's your plan?"

"It's simple. I want to test the limits of your ability to tap into Kazumi and Hijiri Kanna's mana," you say. "I'm more concerned about your purely magical endurance, rather than your ability to hold up in a fight. So make teddy bears. Make as many teddy bears as it takes for you to run out of mana. Big ones, small ones, giant teddy bears made out of a dozen other teddy bears. I don't really care.You don't even need to be able to control all of them. Just make as many teddy bears as you can manage."

A wide smile spreads across Wakaba Mirai's face, and she eagerly plants her sword deep into the ground. "That's the kind of test I don't mind taking," she says, as she taps her heels three times against the ground. "All right, boys, come on out! Mommy's waiting!"

It's as if you were watching a scene from a late-night zombie movie play out in real life. The ground cracks open, and bear after stuffed bear appear from the deep fissures, dragging themselves to the surface and shambling to attention like the ranks of the dead. Does Wakaba Mirai have to be so dramatic about her summoning? Honestly, you have no idea. Maybe she does, and her bears really do spring up from the ground like the skeletal familiars of the Caster servant Archer described to you from his War. Maybe she's just doing it from the sake of being dramatic, and this is just her way of cutting loose and having a bit of fun with your stress test.

Either way, the teddy bears keep coming, in ones and twos and fives and tens and after a while you just stop counting because there are so many of them. They stand in single file, they stand in ranks and in neat columns, they stand on top of each other and climb over each other's shoulders and form into larger stuffed bears. The bears just keep coming and you can neither count them all nor see an end to their numbers.

All the while, Wakaba Mirai stands there, confident, with a smile on her face, as she takes a few of the choicest bears in her collection – they all look the same to you, so how she decides which ones to take is beyond you – and strokes them affectionately, caressing them under their chin and across their cheek, even kissing them at times. It's like the bears are her lovers, except she's already got Asami Saki to fulfil those urges, doesn't she?

Oh, good lord, Wakaba Mirai has done it with her teddy bears before, hasn't she? You're glad Kirika isn't here to see any of this. You don't want to think about the sort of comments she'd be making right now if she were to see Wakaba Mirai groping her teddy bear familiars in front of you. Is this- Is this some kind of mating display? Is Wakaba Mirai signalling something to you? Or does she just like her teddy bears that much?


"Um… How many bears are you up to?" you ask, hoping that by speaking to her, you'll get Wakaba Mirai to stop her display that's making you incredibly uncomfortable. "I'm just curious. I think I lost track at… Some number over fifty, for sure."

"Definitely more than that." Thankfully, Wakaba Mirai ceases her writhing and caressing of her teddy bears when she addresses you. "I could definitely keep going, too. This is wa~ay more than I've ever managed before, and it barely feels like a drop in the bucket. You, uh, you getting bored of this yet, or should I keep going?"

"No, I think you're good," you say. Not so much because you're bored, or because you think you've reached the limit of what Wakaba Mirai is capable of, but instead because you can't stand the sight of her treating her teddy bears like lovers. It's weird. "Now that that's out of the way-" And you can go wash your brain out with bleach in order to scrub the image from your mind forever, "-I think we need to talk about how we're going to approach investigating the areas Hijiri Kanna pointed out."

Wakaba Mirai groans, and with a click of her heels sends her teddy bears back from whatever nothingness they came from. You really don't know what those bears are made of, how they're made, or where they go when they get unmade. She continues to complain all the way into the Saints' base, until you call Asami Saki over, saying "Can you get your girlfriend to stop complaining? We've got a job to do."

"Uh…" Asami Saki is caught off-guard. "Sure," she says, sounding no more sure of herself than you are in her ability to actually succeed at the task you've given her. "Come on, Mirai, stop whining. You're almost twenty." Asami Saki looks to you, and asks "Is this about sending her into the sewers again?"

"I've already given up on having her be the one who investigates the sewers," you say. "Not only is she… Painfully non-compliant, but she's also ill-suited to combat in an enclosed space. Her flame attacks are indiscriminate, her sword is too large to be manoeuvrable inside the sewer's corridors, and if she doesn't want to go, forcing her will just mean that she does a half-assed job of it."

Asami Saki nods her head, and you continue. "Instead, I'd like for her and Kazumi to head up the team investigating the park," you say. "It's a wide-open space with no real danger to critical infrastructure, so if they get into a fight there it's not like they'll actually destroy anything." Madoka's house not included. "I will ask them both to be extremely careful of the residential areas that border the park, however." You look both Kazumi and Wakaba Mirai in the eye, saying to them "If you destroy any of the houses that border the park, you will have to answer to me; and I guarantee you, it will not be a good time for either of you."

"Is there any reason why you care so much about a few houses by the park?" Wakaba Mirai asks. "I'd at least understand if it were some critical piece of infrastructure, but… It's just houses, isn't it? Like, I get that it'll suck for whoever lives there, but that whole area should already be evacuated, right?"

You have a feeling that Wakaba Mirai does not, in fact, get it.

"My girlfriend lives in one of those houses," your currently-ex-girlfriend, actually, but that's none of Wakaba Mirai's business to know. Besides, you nd Madoka are already planning on getting back together as soon as this whole mess with Sidonia is finished with; and as soon as your parents decide to un-ground you; "And her parents have their reasons for not evacuating. We'll leave it at that, if you don't mind." Kazumi and Wakaba Mirai both nod their heads, and you continue, saying "You're free to bring your servants with you; I imagine you'll need them if you run into any trouble there."

"What about the others?" Kazumi asks. "I don't mind taking Mirai and investigating the park, but what about Kaoru and Umika? Ssaki? What about Niko?"

"Have Maki Kaoru and Kanna Niko check out the industrial area across the river," you say. "That area was already damaged in one of Sidonia's previous attacks, and Kanna Niko's magic can help if there's any more damage to the industrial infrastructure there. Take Misaki Umika with you. I don't trust her to go with your group after what she tried to do to you, and I don't trust her to go with me, either."

"Right," Asami Saki says. "So, does that mean I'm going with you, then?"

"That's correct," you say. "It'll be the two of us, along with Matou Sakura and her own servant. That gives us three groups of four each; that should be more than enough to get us started, and maybe we'll even make some decent headway and clear out whatever familiars haven't hatched yet. Any bit counts, even if that's just denying Sidonia resources before they hatch."

You turn to Kanna Niko, who you can see in the corner talking to Nightingale, Matou Sakura, and Medusa. "We'll be heading out as soon as Kanna Niko and the others are finished talking," you say to Kazumi and Asami Saki. "So go inform Maki Kaoru and Misaki Umika, and get ready to move out. I'll let Matou Sakura know as well."

"Oh, come on, Akemi!" Wakaba Mirai says. "Don't act all high and mighty about this just because you've got Kazumi under your thumb! Why'd you break me and Saki up?"

"She doesn't have me under her thumb!"

"Because I know how distracting it can be when you're paired up with the person you love," you say. "What, do you think this is my first time negotiating an effective team when I've got Kirika and her Oriko obsession to deal with? I'm not singling you out or anything, I just would prefer if you kept your mind on the mission and not on how Asami Saki looks beside you."

Wakaba Mirai continues to fume, and would probably have continued to fume, were it not for a knock on the door. Kazumi answers, and you hear "Hey girls, how's it going?" Archer's voice at the door. "I hope you all don't mind, but I brought an extra set of hands to help out."

Kazumi and Asami Saki look to each other, unsure whether or not to just allow Archer's hired help to enter. But the hired help takes matters into their own hands. "Is that one Homura?"

Archer nods his head as the hired help comes into view, and she smiles. It's a girl, no taller than you, with pale, silver hair and bright, cherry-red eyes. For a moment, you feel as though you're looking into a colour-inverted mirror of yourself, except the colour-inverted mirror is moving where you aren't. "Um… Archer, who is this?"

"My name is Illyasviel von Einzbern," the colour-inverted you says with a bow. Illyasviel von Einzbern? Then that means- "And I'm your aunt. Archer's told me all about you, Homura-chan."

[ ] Wat do?
 
Whew, got it in just in time. Wasn't expecting to hit two in one day, but then again, I wasn't expecting yesterday to be what it was either. Apologies all around on that one. I know I usually like to give you guys at least a day or two in advance, but this one just came on me suddenly. Saturdays are usually the day I spend with friends, but that's also usually late enough in the evening that I can manage to get something out before leaving. Not this time. This time, I barely had enough time to say I wouldn't be around before I had to leave.

Anyway, onto the stuff you're all actually here for. I hate to keep leaving us with the [ ] Wat do?s, but it's just easier when there's already outstanding material and I'm only looking for some additions rather than an entirely new vote. Obviously, it's Illya time now, and obviously Illya is going to get herself into whatever shenanigans we had planned for today. Hopefully Sakura understands, and doesn't mind taking a backseat to yet another Fate character that isn't her. We're looking to negotiate Illya into our current patrol plans, but more importantly, we should probably just brace ourselves for the storm, get our reactions ready, and figure out how the hell to react to meeting our aunt for the first time.

In case it wasn't obvious, a decent chunk of this was typed up before @NMS had made his edit to the vote, which is why Homura is still quoting from the old version when making her team divisions. The changes to NMS's vote will be reflected in the next update, as will any changes we make to the current arrangement to either incorporate Illya into our plans or not.
 
[X] Plan: Smol Lady
-[X] Um, okay.
--[X] You're not really sure how to respond to this yourself. You theoretically know you have an aunt, but it never really registered in your mind that she actually existed. You are a bit baffled at her... not-regular-person-ness.
--[X] If she's okay with it, work her into your sewer excursion? That depends on both her abilities and willingness to get a bit dirty; you need someone with multi-target attack power but also someone who can manage that without bringing them down on top of you.
--[X] If that isn't her speed, send her with the power plant team, since they're the only one without a person who can toss out a small army at a moment's notice and could use some reinforcements.

Also, a file on Ilya's abilities for SVS:
- Physically speaking, she's got effectively an F ranking, even compared to normal humans. Because of how reinforcement works (essentially making the target more substantial and realizing their full potential), this means that even reinforcement doesn't do much for her.

- Has a weird thing where she has two sorcery traits; Wishcraft and Transference of Conciousness. The former allows her to essentially brute-force anything into happening, but the less she knows about how to do that and the more complex it is, the more it costs. The latter essentially lets her do a really, really shitty version of what the Heaven's Dress (or whatever it was called) does, and transplant a mind into something else (though the success rate is apparently low and sometimes just outright causes death). Her ability to freely modify Heracles' ME might be a part of her Wishcraft, or it might just be the fact that she effectively has infinite command seals.

- Is able to create Storch Ritter, autonomous bird familiars, from strands of hair. These act as their own magic circuits and produce a small amount of their own energy. They can defend against such things as Rin's gems, and can shoot magical sword-bullet-things that can pierce through multiple trees, so by no means are they weak; on the other hand, she can only focus on so many, so they're limited in number to a handful (canon was four, but I really doubt that she spent all the rest of her life just dicking around, so it might be more by now).

- Apparently she can learn things by listening to the world itself? This comes from Hollow Ataraxia and claims that it's because she's a Lorelei or something, but that sounds really dumb personally.

- Immensely skilled at alchemy, and has a comprehensive understanding of most other common kinds of magecraft. This is because she literally inherited the memories of her ancestors, so she's essentially a Grand or Brand level magus with the mind of a 20-year-old. Keep in mind that Brand level mages are strong enough to put up a fight against a decent Servant; a pathetic fight, but not one-sided.

- Secondarily: Has a spell that generates an SEP field around her. Has artificial mystic eyes that allow her to temporarily disable the opponent's muscular control, though supposedly those with decent magic resistance can basically ignore it. The mystic eyes can stop a person from turning on their magic circuits, but if they're already on, they can't turn them off. She's able to use a crystal ball clairvoyantly, though this might be limited to the inside of bounded fields she creates.

- Supposedly exceedingly talented at both driving cars and swimming.
I know that SVS has downgraded the scale of imported F/SN characters a bit, but I thought it might be interesting for his consideration. Also, might want to bring Ilya to Nightingale, just to see if she thinks she can do anything to help her problem.

On an unrelated note, Plague, I was thinking, and it's really unrelated to what we're planning right now, but also kind of related in an abstract sort of way because of Kazumi, but- What colour should Void/Ether/the 5th Element/whatever be represented as? We've got Fire, Water, Wind, and Earth, but what about Void? Black? Purple? Both are colours I've associated with Kazumi before, black being obvious, and purple being the colour of her explosion magic, but maybe there's another colour? Like gold, or silver, that isn't as associated with Kazumi but is still associated with the idea? I know, this came out of nowhere, but it'll be important down the line, I promise.
Sorry for late response. Canonically, Ether is associated with purple, and physically speaking is basically clear.
 
I know that SVS has downgraded the scale of imported F/SN characters a bit, but I thought it might be interesting for his consideration. Also, might want to bring Ilya to Nightingale, just to see if she thinks she can do anything to help her problem.
EDIT: Oh, wait, you're talking about their power scaling. Never mind. Yeah, that's been a balancing thing. I know the outliers of the Fateverse are supposed to be incredibly powerful, but at the same time it doesn't feel right to let them outshine the supposed main girls. If this were in Fuyuki, I'd probably treat it the other way around, and downplay just how reality-warping and True-Magic-ey the puella magi system is, for much the same reason.
Sorry for late response. Canonically, Ether is associated with purple, and physically speaking is basically clear.
Purple, okay. So at least Kazumi's got that much right. I'd feel really awkward about her having Void as her Element if it weren't purple when her magic explosions are purple.
- Is able to create Storch Ritter, autonomous bird familiars, from strands of hair.
Yup, I know about these. Kind of funny that Homura also has bird familiars. I bet that makes you really happy.
- Immensely skilled at alchemy, and has a comprehensive understanding of most other common kinds of magecraft. This is because she literally inherited the memories of her ancestors, so she's essentially a Grand or Brand level magus with the mind of a 20-year-old.
I bet she'd have a blast trying to explain to Niko that her "alchemy" isn't "real" alchemy. Also, if I've done my math right, I think Illya is 27 now?
 
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Kind of funny that Homura also has bird familiars. I bet that makes you really happy.


Also, if I've done my math right, I think Illya is 27 now?
Nah, I'm pretty sure she's 25. F/SN was in 2004, right? She was 18 by then, and it's about 2011 IIRC, so it's either 25 or 26, thereabouts. It's so close that it doesn't really matter, but I needed something to be pedantic about so that this post isn't just a reaction image.
 
Nah, I'm pretty sure she's 25. F/SN was in 2004, right? She was 18 by then, and it's about 2011 IIRC, so it's either 25 or 26, thereabouts. It's so close that it doesn't really matter, but I needed something to be pedantic about so that this post isn't just a reaction image.
I could have sworn she was 19 in Stay/Night. Hollow Ataraxia takes place in October of 2004, if memory serves me, and it's 2012 now; that's eight years, so Illya would be 27. But still, either way she's still close enough that calling herself "almost thirty" isn't inappropriate.

That said, if we use my calculations, that means Illya is only seven years younger than Minako. That's kind of crazy when you think about it, isn't it? Seven years isn't a whole lot, yet Illya still looks like a kid, while Minako has a teenage daughter who is as old as Illya looks.
 
Isn't Illya also incredibly lightweight? Or did her living longer change that?
She is. By an amount that just isn't reasonable. According to the Fate/Zero LNs, Kiritsugu comments that Illya doesn't weigh any more than his Walther rifle. At the time of him saying that, Illya was 134cm tall. The Walther WA2000, in comparison, weighs a mere 7.91kg, or 17.4 pounds, fully loaded, and not included the non-standard 3.6x AN/PVS-4 night vision scope or the Elcan Specter IR thermal scope, both of which are heavier than the stock Schmidt & Bender telescopic sight the WA200 is normally equipped with and bring the total weight up to ~10kg (22.04 pounds) . That's not normal. A child of that height should not weigh only 22 pounds.

But that's not as weird as it gets, because according to the wiki, Illya's weight is actually 34kg (74.95 pounds), though her height remains unchanged. What that means is that, in ten years, her weight more than tripled despite all her other physical dimensions remaining unchanged. Does mana have weight? Because that's the only thing I can think of to explain Illya's increase in weight despite her lack of a corresponding increase in height or girth.

I would imagine, given that she's grown another 24cm in the intervening eight years, that she'd be heavier, but by how much more I couldn't say. Personally, I'd wager that she's the same weight as Homura.
 
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She is. By an amount that just isn't reasonable. According to the Fate/Zero LNs, Kiritsugu comments that Illya doesn't weigh any more than his Walther rifle. At the time of him saying that, Illya was 134cm tall. The Walther WA2000, in comparison, weighs a mere 7.91kg, or 17.4 pounds, fully loaded, and not included the non-standard 3.6x AN/PVS-4 night vision scope or the Elcan Specter IR thermal scope, both of which are heavier than the stock Schmidt & Bender telescopic sight the WA200 is normally equipped with and bring the total weight up to ~10kg (22.04 pounds) . That's not normal. A child of that height should not weigh only 22 pounds.

But that's not as weird as it gets, because according to the wiki, Illya's weight is actually 34kg (74.95 pounds), though her height remains unchanged. What that means is that, in ten years, her weight more than tripled despite all her other physical dimensions remaining unchanged. Does mana have weight? Because that's the only thing I can think of to explain Illya's increase in weight despite her lack of a corresponding increase in height or girth.

I would imagine, given that she's grown another 24cm in the intervening eight years, that she'd be heavier, but by how much more I couldn't say. Personally, I'd wager that she's the same weight as Homura.

I was at one point in my life only 25 kg at around that height. The 90s were a lean time. At least I wasn't just skin and bones because of my mutant musculature. These days I'm at around 70 kg and above 180 cm so don't worry about me.
 
I was at one point in my life only 25 kg at around that height. The 90s were a lean time. At least I wasn't just skin and bones because of my mutant musculature. These days I'm at around 70 kg and above 180 cm so don't worry about me.
I can accept 25kg under extenuating circumstances. I can accept 34kg under normal circumstances, since Illya is a girl and would have less muscle mass than a boy of comparable size. What I cannot accept is Illya hopping from 10kg to 34kg without any other change to her outward appearance. You don't just put on 24kg and not have it show in either height, muscle, or fat, of which Illya has none.
 
I can accept 25kg under extenuating circumstances. I can accept 34kg under normal circumstances, since Illya is a girl and would have less muscle mass than a boy of comparable size. What I cannot accept is Illya hopping from 10kg to 34kg without any other change to her outward appearance. You don't just put on 24kg and not have it show in either height, muscle, or fat, of which Illya has none.

She doesn't gain much in hair either. You're right this is weird.
 
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