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At least Homura won't be alone in her confinement now."But I'm still telling Minako about what Kirika's cooked up. She can expect to be grounded for her little stunt as well."
[X] Plan: Historical Verve Medley
At least Homura won't be alone in her confinement now."But I'm still telling Minako about what Kirika's cooked up. She can expect to be grounded for her little stunt as well."
You would be forgiven for thinking that. They are bastard little troublemakers like that. But no, they've actually just wandered off to find Madoka so they can get their promised juice and hugs. You know, without doing any of the actual work that would deserve them getting juice and hugs. They're bastard little troublemakers like that.Where are the Grief Quintet, anyway? Did they just wander off and start having a pool party in a puddle of grief?
Hey, I figure if Homura deserves to be grounded for spooking her parents when she makes familiars from her own Grief, then Kirika definitely deserves to be grounded for stabbing herself and then using the iron in her own blood to make a bunch of blades.At least Homura won't be alone in her confinement now.
[X] Plan: Historical Verve Medley
Ah, so GOB isn't special in and of itself, it's just history trying to make up for the fact that Gilgamesh should be the origin of all heroes, but doesn't necessarily serve as the origin of all NPs. So that's why he has a version of Nine Lives tied into a physical bow despite that not really making sense. I'd say that GoB being a microcosm of human achievement would make more sense, but this is the Nasuverse, so yeah. So wait, does this mean that Inguz 'holding hands' with Gilgamesh will make UBW into an actual NP? Or replace all the blades with their 'original forms'? What the hell will that actually do? Or will it just do nothing, and Gil should focus on something different?Would you believe that GOB by itself doesn't have any special properties and it's just a very big treasure house. It is even mentioned in the GOB description it is useless without a wealth of valuables in it. What makes GOB overpowered is Gilgamesh himself more specifically his Golden Rule and Collector skills. Golden Rule attracts wealth to him and this is the skill that arms his GOB while Collector is the skill that filters that wealth to only have the highest quality of tools and items. But that is only treasures the trait that allows Gil to have all those NPs is his title itself King of Heroes. He as the original hero must have the NPs latter heroes would wield since they can't be called NPs without Gil having possessed it as a predecessor of later heroes. That title of his have a paradox concept meaning if you are hero and have an NP Gilgamesh must possess a prototype of your NP as the original hero since he is the model for all heroes.
Wait, all that's from the iron in her blood? Man, she must be eating rocks. Also, it had the name from the get-go.Hey, I figure if Homura deserves to be grounded for spooking her parents when she makes familiars from her own Grief, then Kirika definitely deserves to be grounded for stabbing herself and then using the iron in her own blood to make a bunch of blades.
But also, @PlaguePaladin, when the hell did you give the vote a name? I swear you didn't have one attached to it yesterday.
Rock candy dissolved in her tea, more like. It's actually a bit more than that, and she could probably get away with doing it without the dramatic stabbing part. It's meant to be reminiscent of Sayaka invoking her witch powers by stabbing herself with her sword, and since Latria is the witch of needles, it makes sense that if irika does it she'd get a shit ton of bladed weapons instead of summoning a big metal mermaid. She's done it before without stabbing herself, but let's be real here, Kirika is just "Ow the Edge" incarnate when it comes down to it.Wait, all that's from the iron in her blood? Man, she must be eating rocks. Also, it had the name from the get-go.
I dunno. If you're concerned about it not working the way someone else thinks it should, then change it. We do still have a third other miniature world we can make use of. Or we could not, if you think your original idea is cooler and want to stick with that. I'm more partial to figuring out how in the fuck I'm going to depict the end result in a written form than I am with how it's supposed to work in practice.I'd say that GoB being a microcosm of human achievement would make more sense, but this is the Nasuverse, so yeah. So wait, does this mean that Inguz 'holding hands' with Gilgamesh will make UBW into an actual NP? Or replace all the blades with their 'original forms'? What the hell will that actually do? Or will it just do nothing, and Gil should focus on something different?
Yeah, but is the Gate of Skye going to end up with Scathach being okay? I mean, it basically is just her becoming a witch, right?We do still have a third other miniature world we can make use of.
The good thing is that if Gil actually affects the result, it probably isn't going to have much visual effect, so I won't have to account for that. I believe that since this is the merging of Egypt with the history of various soldiers throughout Human history (and possibly all human legends if Gil is here), it might be less a 'temple complex' or a 'field of ash and swords' or 'a mystical vault' and more a 'representation of Human achievement put into a location'. Now as to what that looks like, the nature of Reality Marbles and Inguz means that it would actually be a mid-point between what Ramesses, Gil, and Emiya think that would look like. Since I don't really know what they would consider to be 'places that represent human history' except for possibly Ramesses (in the form of his temple complex), I don't really know. Perhaps the Hanging Gardens for Gil, or the Garden of Eden for Emiya since he hasn't put much thought into it? High chances of the result being a garden, I guess, if I am right.I'm more partial to figuring out how in the fuck I'm going to depict the end result in a written form than I am with how it's supposed to work in practice.
I mean, not for nothing but I think there's a pretty big one there for Archer. It's the reason his UBW looks a lot happier now than it did in canon, or even in just the previous quest. Then again, "Muh family" probably isn't peak human history for the definition you're working off of, and even if it were I'm not sure how I'd represent that visually.Since I don't really know what they would consider to be 'places that represent human history' ... or the Garden of Eden for Emiya since he hasn't put much thought into it?
I think she might moreso understand that they have the same overall function (bring out a world not unlike a witch barrier) and the idea of bringing magic together (helped by the fact that fused witch barriers have been seen before in PMMM), plus the fact that all three of them are the teams' most powerful NPs, so slapping them together might be the next part in the equation. It might also be something Archer could think up, since he does know about all this stuff.EDIT: @PlaguePaladin, I'm at the point in the update where I'm about to be getting on with the activation of this triple NP combination attack you're planning, but I've hit a roadblock. How do you figure that Homura would even come up with the idea? She's used Inguz to hold hands with her teammates' mana before, but if she doesn't have a comprehensive understanding of the metaphysical magecraft stuff you're talking about, how is she supposed to come up with the idea of making a few servants' NPs to hold hands?
No, what kills me is actually having to type the damn things out, not you asking me for them.I don't believe I forgot anyone. Rough, group-based plans to prevent things from getting overcomplicated here. I'm sorry I've started to kill you by asking for things that are really hard or long-winded to describe.
You want to know the fucked up thing? She didn't even. Niko had almost 40 on her arm when Sidonia obtained it, plus the three Sidonia obtained for herself form summoning Gudrun. Meanwhile, she only spent 12 or so fusing herself with Chernobog. So in a pinch, she's still got at least two dozen more to spend on herself in whatever way she chooses.So, when does Hans show up to put a wrench in things, or is he free now that Sidonia burned all her command seals to fuse with Chernobog?
Half correct. I'll try to summarize from what I remember from his materials. The GOB really is the origin of NPs but not all of it. You see back in Gil's time humanity's domain was small so Gil can be said to be the ruler of unified humanity when he reign before human domain expanded and split into different civilizations so he collected all of mankind's treasures during this time. This treasures are so high quality that they will eventually become NPs wielded by later heroes after Gil's death and the scattering of his treasures throughout the world like some of his demonic swords making their way to South America and the like. Anyway latter heroes would find this treasures and use them in their legends eventually giving this treasures names and becoming NPs themselves. That is why the NPs in Gil's vault are called Nameless Prototypes they haven't made their way yet to the heroes that would eventually wield them and give this legendary treasures their names.
And damn, do I appreciate it. Still, sorry for giving you all this work.I hope you all enjoy the way in which I depicted the combined temple NPs. I decided to stick with mostly the temple theming, since that one is the largest of the three, but with heavy influence from Archer and Caster as well, like the reeds by the fake!Nile actually being swords, the swords in the hands of statues and reliefs being NPs, Caster's GoB portals open in the sky alongside the gears from Archer's UBW, etc... It was certainly a challenge to think of something that could incorporate all three of them into a single area that managed to be both unified in its appearance but also bearing the distinct marks of everyone involved.
Dealing with the Mage's Association and the fallout from this was slated to be the events of the 3quel, but given how down-the-drain this whole sequel thing has been, I have no plans to continue into the 3quel until at least mid-July of next year. I do still want to get to the 3quel eventually, but I need to take a break after this so I can work on other projects, recuperate from the burnout of doing this for two straight years without stopping, and so I can figure out whether there's enough interest in, or if it's even worth it, for me to go ahead and do the 3qquel.Now we should make plan to deal with the clock tower and the holy church. Couse no way we can sweep this under the rug. There's no way some magi can't feel a sudden presence of corruption and a group of HS chilling in there
Oh, for fuck's sake, Kyoko-
Look, she never came up with a name for it, okay? But, unlike Hitomi or Caren (though Caren is arguable, she just doesn't have a name for the massive lightning missile) she at least had a finishing move she could contribute. If we'd ever thought to force Kyouko to come up with a name for her bigass spear thing, this all could have been avoided.
Not quite yet. Voting might be done, but there are still two more main-story updates left, and there will also be a few other things here or there that I'll probably end up asking of the audience. They won't be quite as time-consuming as this has been, but still.On the other hand, this means that I now have the time to start up my quest! Guess I should get to work on that, now that the main object of my free time is gone.