I feel like the punishment would be to just not make her familiars at all. For obvious reasons.
Minako: "Homura time for din..." trails off as she steps into Homura's room and sees a dozen creepy birds staring at her.
Fair enough.
I feel like the punishment would be to just not make her familiars at all. For obvious reasons.
You know, suddenly I realise the flaw in making them birds. What if Amy tries to catch and eat one of them?Minako: "Homura time for din..." trails off as she steps into Homura's room and sees a dozen creepy birds staring at her.
Fair enough.
Alright, I guess I'll just shove it under a spoiler since it's more the concept that comes close to violating rule 6 than the wording. I figure this probably doesn't even inch close to the worst stuff that's been allowed, since I've seen some less-than-savory descriptions of lolis and necrophilia on this site before, combined with young lesbian relationships between PMMM characters to begin with, so I'll just try to be relatively tasteful about it; especially since the characters in question are around 15-16 and Mami and Oriko are already on the tippy-toe line of being an adult anyways, so yeah.I mean, I'm up for it if you're up for it. I'm sure there's ways to word things so they don't cross any lines.
Alright, so the primary thing to know is that familiars are the 'projections of a magical girl's heart before she became a witch', according to canon sources. From what we can see in-canon, they basically carry out something metaphorically related to the routines and desires of the magical girl. Reworking some ideas I gave to SVS (still in the format of a witch profile sorry):We're not quite done with the night just yet. This one was tricky to get the words right on, so I'm stopping here for now and I'll let you guys take over when it comes to figuring out our road map for placing these little guys, along with ideas for who we can contact for inspiration into other possible shapes. @PlaguePaladin this might be where you want to come in and talk about the other ideas for familiars you had. I know you don't like discussing your ideas in public, but this might be a good place to do so, even if it's just so everyone else is on the same page.
This actually isn't that improbable. Matter of fact, it's even likely.I suddenly just had the thought of Homura making little chibi Madokas as familiars.
Kirika, I thought, would be one of the easiest to guess, and she was, but despite her moaning about how Minako won't let her get any for a while, I'm surprised that you missed how she's got a pretty big thing for piercings. Not sure if you could say that extends to general bodymod stuff, or if she's just into piercings and tattoos without addressing the really freaky Slaanesh-type bodymods.Well, for Kirika and Homura, obviously they have fetishes for a very singular person. In that regard, they're probably into whatever Oriko or Madoka are into respectively.
And I can directly say that, as someone who grew up watching the Nelvana dub of Cardcaptor Sakura (it came on right before Pokemon, and I'll never forget that) and have spent pretty much my entire life watching some form of magical girl anime or another (the aforementioned Cardcaptor Sakura and Powerpuff Girls as a kid, to Madoka, P&SwG, Utena, Princess Tutu, Symphogear, hell even MLP was a pretty good magical girl series for the first four seasons, and beyond as an adult) I can confidently say that I do not have any overt fantastical fetishes to speak of.I have experience in the fact that people who watch girls' shows with overt fantastical elements always develop a fetish within this range.
Funny you say that last part, because there's just something about the way Saki looks that makes me think she's secretly a huge masochist. Maybe it's because nobody could possibly stand being intimate with Mirai and not be a masochist at some level. And speaking of Mirai, she's got a thing for teddy bears. Obviously. Frankly, I think Mirai's thing for teddy bears is wa~ay worse than whatever you could have been imagining for Satomi.Given her relationship with Mirai here, I believe that Saki has a thing for massive fluffy poofy hair. Probably a dom on the side.
If I felt like crossing the line twice, I'd say that Niko's fetish is for stuff like self-harm and degradation. Like, she wants her partner to hurt her because she's so messed up that she views it as part of her penance. But you're probably more right that she's so repressed that she doesn't know what she likes.Niko strikes me as the type who is so self-repressive that they don't even know what their tastes are. As things are, she might inherit some from Kazumi, or following what I said about Kazumi earlier, might pick up a few traits from the other Saints.
I think it depends entirely on the man in question. Remember, she did take a husband, and in some versions of the myth she was even okay with it and liked him. She also got caught banging her husband in a temple and that's what got her turned into a lion, so, you know...Pretty sure Atalanta is ace, primarily as a disciple of Artemis since birth.
I think Nightingale died a virgin. I'm not sure. I wouldn't try to guess her preferences.Nightingale treats sexual activity like you would go bungee jumping or being in a shooting range; it's entirely orthodox, planned out, and clean. That's if you can even get her to agree in the first place.
Canonically we know Gilgamesh is into banging virgins on their wedding night. That's what got his subjects pissed at him in the first place. And probably temple prostitutes as well. And probably Enkidu as well as well.Gilgamesh, owing to Sha Naqba Imuru, accidentally saw a bunch of horny shit and understood it. He is into basically every fetish, but likes 'rarer' or 'noble' fetishes more.
The time period is one thing, but Boudica also had a husband and two kids. I get the feeling that she's the type who would be faithful to her husband even though he's not around right now. Or at least be more concerned with "Kill all the Romans" to bother with intimacy.Given the place and culture within which she was raised. Boudica probably enjoys being entirely free about where and when she does the deed.
Wolde Albrecht accusing her of being a witch who had sex with the devil would disagree. I digress, but if she weren't so genocide-obsessed I'd probably peg her as a lesbian regardless, though how interested I'd say she is is up for debate. Definitely more concerned with other pursuits. Part of that might because I look at the number of complaints she and the other women at the abbey had with each other and think "Oh, they're just jilted lovers having a spat" and part because I think it would be hilarious to ship her with Elizabeth Bathory and see what happens. But like, the good Elizabeth Bathory. Not the pink-haired idol wannabee from Extra.I think Sidonia probably does not give two hoots about horny stuff.
I'm not 100% on this, but I think in TM canon, Cu is 16 when he trains with Scat, not 10 like he is in the actual myth. Surprisingly, that's the version I've gone with over the real one, so feel free to not be grossed out by this version of Scat's proclivities. Oh, and do remember that this version of Scat has also slept with her female students, not just her male ones. Benefits of being a former puella magi and all.Scathach has had a habit of enjoying spunky young men. Even if, y'know, they were ten... man, that's kind of a messed-up part of their myth.
Madoka, obviously. Her family and friends. When we talked earlier, you had the idea that what she's most concerned about is losing any of them and not being able to take it back. That was what you tracked in order to come up with the familiars you're presenting here, unless I seriously misinterpreted what you said before.But it's really possible for anything to be here, so long as it sufficiently fits what lies in Homura's heart. If I had a clearer idea of the fundamental principals of her desires, I could probably get a more precise and less wanky idea of what her familiars could be in this situation.
I suddenly just had the thought of Homura making little chibi Madokas as familiars.
I'm not so sure how comfortable I feel about this. Mostly because I'm imagining Madoka but Neco-Arc, and I don't want that. That's too creepy.This actually isn't that improbable. Matter of fact, it's even likely.
And now, let's see how much of this I can respond to without making it worse.
Most of the experience actually comes from me myself, and similar other people. I think the list you've given me here is probably an indicator of why they didn't influence you this way, since outside of Cardcaptor Sakura, these series are either lacking in odd transformations or came out after you were 13 or below, which is what I've found through talking with others is generally the range of influencing someone's tastes.And I can directly say that, as someone who grew up watching the Nelvana dub of Cardcaptor Sakura (it came on right before Pokemon, and I'll never forget that) and have spent pretty much my entire life watching some form of magical girl anime or another (the aforementioned Cardcaptor Sakura and Powerpuff Girls as a kid, to Madoka, P&SwG, Utena, Princess Tutu, Symphogear, hell even MLP was a pretty good magical girl series for the first four seasons, and beyond as an adult) I can confidently say that I do not have any overt fantastical fetishes to speak of.
I'd personally think that a teddy-bear fetish isn't quite as bad as b****iality, but it's a matter of perspective.Funny you say that last part, because there's just something about the way Saki looks that makes me think she's secretly a huge masochist. Maybe it's because nobody could possibly stand being intimate with Mirai and not be a masochist at some level. And speaking of Mirai, she's got a thing for teddy bears. Obviously. Frankly, I think Mirai's thing for teddy bears is wa~ay worse than whatever you could have been imagining for Satomi.
I'm mostly going off Nightingale as seen here. IRL, Florence Nightingale is really outside of our range to guess, not to mention that's incredibly out-of-line in the first place.I think Nightingale died a virgin. I'm not sure. I wouldn't try to guess her preferences.
It's particularly because of her being what she currently is right now that I said what I said; normal Sidonia would definitely fit into lesbianism.Wolde Albrecht accusing her of being a witch who had sex with the devil would disagree. I digress, but if she weren't so genocide-obsessed I'd probably peg her as a lesbian regardless, though how interested I'd say she is is up for debate. Definitely more concerned with other pursuits. Part of that might because I look at the number of complaints she and the other women at the abbey had with each other and think "Oh, they're just jilted lovers having a spat" and part because I think it would be hilarious to ship her with Elizabeth Bathory and see what happens. But like, the good Elizabeth Bathory. Not the pink-haired idol wannabee from Extra.
Eh, what I said doesn't necessarily exclude her from being faithful. She'd just be a lot more open to 'being faithful', if you catch my cold.The time period is one thing, but Boudica also had a husband and two kids. I get the feeling that she's the type who would be faithful to her husband even though he's not around right now. Or at least be more concerned with "Kill all the Romans" to bother with intimacy.
Since I have confirmation now, I effectively believe that, in some way, shape, or form, her familiars would generally track with what I gave here, more or less. A few more general ideas include:Madoka, obviously. Her family and friends. When we talked earlier, you had the idea that what she's most concerned about is losing any of them and not being able to take it back. That was what you tracked in order to come up with the familiars you're presenting here, unless I seriously misinterpreted what you said before.
See, this is where you and I differ, because I don't think Satomi would be into animals that way. Sure, she loves them, but I think her brain might just not be wired for intimacy or romance, and not even in an asexual or aromantic type of way, but more the "I genuinely do not understand this" type of way. Or else she only sees it as a way to manipulate others without enjoying or understanding it for its own merits. At absolute worst, I could see Satomi being a furry, but not into animals.I'd personally think that a teddy-bear fetish isn't quite as bad as b****iality, but it's a matter of perspective.
Yes, that is fair. Present-day Sidonia's sexual orientation is definitely "Genocide and genocide".It's particularly because of her being what she currently is right now that I said what I said; normal Sidonia would definitely fit into lesbianism.
None of these are bad ideas, but that still leaves open the question of "What should they look like?" If we accept that it's less likely for her familiars to look like her friends if they're still alive, then what sort of forms should they take? What sort of forms are approporiate to encapsulate significant moments in Homura's relationships with her friends and family that could form the basis of familiars?Since I have confirmation now, I effectively believe that, in some way, shape, or form, her familiars would generally track with what I gave here, more or less. A few more general ideas include:
Ultimately still up to you to decide.
- Her familiars being vaguely based off of her friends or their familiars, further representing her refusal to let them go; probably more likely if they die, but since they're all alive, this might be less likely
- All of her familiars being direct applications of forms of magic she's had, since in some way you could metaphorically link all of them to a strong desire Homura has
- All of her familiars being a callback to some sort of significant moment she's had with each loved one (probably most likely given her bird familiars)
- Every single idea I've given so far, since they're actually not exclusive to each other
Some possible ones are:None of these are bad ideas, but that still leaves open the question of "What should they look like?" If we accept that it's less likely for her familiars to look like her friends if they're still alive, then what sort of forms should they take? What sort of forms are approporiate to encapsulate significant moments in Homura's relationships with her friends and family that could form the basis of familiars?
Since Madoka and Archer are both obvious, I'm going to take a shot in the dark and try to think of some important moments that would have solidified the bonds between Homura and the poeple around her.It's also hard to metaphorically encapsulate those moments into a single thing, especially when I don't actually remember a lot of important bonding moments for everyone.
I'll definitely try. Here's what I make from these, combining all of my previous ideas:I'm not sure what you could get out of these, but these are the ones that stand out to me the most from the previous story.
What?
What the fuck?
Her familial love. Greek word, pronounced 'store-gay'.
Eh, that one's an obscure reference, kinda. Essentially, guy gets turned into floaty demon dude, the guys who made him that way try to kill him, his head survives, he tries to hunt and kill anyone who comes near him so he can have a complete body again. That last part vaguely relates to Lutgard's role. His HD version is a lot creepier.
Ah, yes, the store-gay. Is that what you call it when Kirika hangs out at the mall for too long? Or is that the store where Kirika does all her shopping?
I'm pretty sure this is not the first time I've made a JonTron reference.
And I say again; What? What the fuck?Eh, that one's an obscure reference, kinda. Essentially, guy gets turned into floaty demon dude, the guys who made him that way try to kill him, his head survives, he tries to hunt and kill anyone who comes near him so he can have a complete body again. That last part vaguely relates to Lutgard's role. His HD version is a lot creepier.
If we could go back to this for a moment, I have something that's actually relevant to bring up. So, some friends and I are going to try playing D&D for the first time (my second time, actually, and that first time was a story and a half, and I'd be willing to share it if anybody asked), and I've volunteered to be the DM since I"ve already got a map and a game idea in mind. Now, none of my real-life friends know what I do here, so I thought it would be funny if I tried to make Sidonia into the final boss of the game. At the moment, she's a mix between a Pyromancer Sorcerer (for the fire, obviously) and a College of Creation Bard (summoning devils and making familiars out of inanimate objects), though that's still up for grabs if there's a way I can do her better, and that got me thinking-
Pretty sure there's a 9th level time stop spell for Homura. Aside from that though, I'm with Dmol; I actually am into making builds, but D&D's balance is so fucked, so I never really got into it outside of a more freeform game me and some friends did back in middle school. Did slam-dunk a phoenix and killed a god of metal by getting a dwarf to do the 'Bob, THROW ME' maneuver, and that was fun, but I'm probably not doing that ever again.If we could go back to this for a moment, I have something that's actually relevant to bring up. So, some friends and I are going to try playing D&D for the first time (my second time, actually, and that first time was a story and a half, and I'd be willing to share it if anybody asked), and I've volunteered to be the DM since I"ve already got a map and a game idea in mind. Now, none of my real-life friends know what I do here, so I thought it would be funny if I tried to make Sidonia into the final boss of the game. At the moment, she's a mix between a Pyromancer Sorcerer (for the fire, obviously) and a College of Creation Bard (summoning devils and making familiars out of inanimate objects), though that's still up for grabs if there's a way I can do her better, and that got me thinking-
Forget about what race each of the main girls would be, what would they look like if you tried making them as actual characters? What would their classes and abilities look like when translated into D&D terms?
That sounds like the kind of thing that would have happened in the one game I played previously. I played a crab-man and towards the end of the game I made an elf jedi deepthroat their own lightsaber. Our dwarf fell in a dragon cesspit and we had to fight the dragon to get him out. We found the Spear of Longinus in the possession of an angel who was a dancer at a titty bar the party went to one time. Fucking wild.but D&D's balance is so fucked, so I never really got into it outside of a more freeform game me and some friends did back in middle school. Did slam-dunk a phoenix and killed a god of metal by getting a dwarf to do the 'Bob, THROW ME' maneuver, and that was fun, but I'm probably not doing that ever again.
Oh, okay then. Uh...EDIT: But @PlaguePaladin, @NMS, @K4lepo, maybe one or more of you could help me fill out the last two posts before the page turns. I have the update all typed, but I don't want to post it in a situation where all the votes would be on a different page from the update. Thanks in advance.
I was about to post a huge response to this, when it hit me that I didn't agree with the premise at all and was trying to argue a position based solely on your claim, rather than on it being anything I actually believed or wanted to say. I know what you're referring to, but honestly, I've seen more complaints from people who think casters are too OP and that martials should be allowed to do supernatural stuff, than I have the reverse. I've even seen "Why do people get upset at martials doing supernatural stuff when casters are allowed to break reality" more times than I've ever seen anyone actually getting mad at a martial trying to do something supernatural.What is it about martials having supernatural powers in fantasy games that makes a lot of tabletop nerds angry? Though it's a rant video, my feelings are best described here; why would anybody wanting to be effective at higher levels in D&D ever want to pick a martial when there's Johnny Big Balls over there with his sorcery, allowing him to play the game with only one stat, with bigger effects, with more versatility? This derives from what I said earlier about not really liking D&D due to the striking balance issues. But it seems like a lot of people will try tearing you a new one if you let martials get supernatural stuff.