Confringentur 2; a Madoka Magica / Fate/Stay Night sequel

I added a bit more to our conversation with Assassin of Blue, as best as I could make it flow with the scene, but I wasn't sure about giving Homura her parameters because I can't recall if we've ever had Homura use her master's vision to get servant parameters through Archer's eyes before. Hopefully we'll be able to interact with Assassin of Blue again at a later date, since she's at least willing to hear us out if nobody else is, and we can get her parameters then if we're around to read them in person.
 
Omake, side Aífe - Who Does She Hate?
The hour had grown late, and even though she wasn't tired, Assassin had excused herself from further construction work for the night. The thought of going back to that cramped little one-story house her master called 'home' churned her stomach, but she couldn't stand to lay another brick or to set another ward, knowing that her sister had been summoned as her enemy. "That bitch," Assassin hissed to herself. "My sister is summoned, and nobody thinks to inform me until earlier today?" Her grip clenched as she reached for the handle of her master's front door. It's the fault of that stupid master of mine;, isn't it? That's the only way she can get her rocks off. Hasn't she done enough, summoning me into a class I'm completely useless in?

For just a moment, Assassin's hand softened, her fingers relaxing their death grip as she turned the handle and pushed the door in. Well, all things considered, there has to be worse masters out there. That woman might be nothing but a callous sadist, but at least she provides me with adequate mana. Assassin snorted; that was more than some other masters she knew were capable of.

"Working hard?"

Almost immediately upon hearing the sound of her master's voice, any growing acceptance of her master was extinguished. "Hardly working, more like," Assassin replied. "I could have finished that stupid mansion by myself had you summoned me as a Caster, but no~" Assassin rolled her eyes, allowing her elegant purple robe to melt into something more casual as she entered the living room, not bothering to remove her shoes as she did so. Maybe her master spared an annoyed glance at her, maybe not; Assassin didn't care to pay attention. "You just had to go and stick me in this worthless body, didn't you?"

"I would have much preferred to summon you as a Caster, actually," Caren said. "Unfortunately, Tomoe beat me to it."

"Then why even waste the effort to summon me in the first place, if you knew you would be forced to summon me into an improper class vessel?"

Caren shrugged. "Who knows? Maybe I just have a preference for evil-aligned servants. My last sexual partner was All the World's Evils, after all."

"Yeah? Well maybe you should have summoned him instead. A romp in the hay might do you some good." Assassin kicked her shoes off as she fell down backwards into the plush recliner beside the television. "What's for dinner?"

"Well, we've got..." Caren stuck her head into the fridge, saying "Frozen mapo tofu, or... Deluxe frozen mapo tofu."

"What's the difference?"

"One of them is extra-spicy."

Assassin sighed, groaning as she forced herself up out of the recliner, pushing her way past her master into the kitchen. "You're hopeless," she said. "Not everyone enjoys setting their mouths on fire like you do, you stupid sadist." Caren stood off to the side as Assassin tore through the fridge. "Here, I'll make us some real food."

"You know how to cook?" Caren asked. There wasn't a biting remark waiting behind Caren's question; her curiosity was earnest.

"Better than you, evidently." Assassin turned around, staring at Caren who watched as she made a mess of the fridge. "Now go somewhere out of my sight, stay put, and let me worry about making sure your sorry ass is alive so you can keep giving me mana." With a snort, Assassin added "Maybe go flick your bean to thoughts of that gross little Avenger of yours. Anything, I don't care, as long as it keeps you out of the kitchen."

It wasn't much, but there was some - thing resembling - fresh fish in the fridge, along with enough vegetables to make a simple salad. But what Assassin was really interested in - "Ah-ha!" - was the stash of wine her master kept in the cupboard. "Finally, something goes right for me!" Assassin gave a whistle as she threw dinner onto a pair of plates, calling out "Hey master! Get your ass in here if you want to eat!" A few minutes later, after Assassin had already served herself and was seated at the kitchen table, Caren shuffled into the kitchen, her face dusted with red and her eyes half-lidded. "Oh, for the love of- I was kidding, you stupid wench!"

"I'm tired, Assassin; I've had a long day, and this is a later dinner than I was expecting to have. So stop yelling. Do not make me use a Command Seal." As if it would help, Caren attempted to smile, forcing through a fake "Please?" as she served herself dinner. As unexpected as it was, Assassin obliged, remaining silent but for the sound of her chewing as Caren took a seat at the table across from her servant. She bowed her head, muttering over her food, before asking "Aren't you going to say grace?"

"Grace?" Assassin scoffed. "Your people invade my homeland, destroy our ancient traditions, and turned mighty gods into mortals in the name of your religion. I would sooner make amends with that bastard Sétanta than say your stupid grace."

"Do you really hate him that much?"

"Hate?" Assassin sneered. "Hate isn't strong enough a word for what I feel towards that worthless cur. He interrupts me in the middle of battling my sister. He disgraces and humiliates me. He rapes me and forces me to bear him a child; his own son, whom he then kills himself!" Assassin shook her head, saying "No, hate isn't nearly strong enough to describe my feelings towards him. Two thousand years may have gone by since either of us were alive, but I still can never forgive him for the shame he visited on me."

Caren thought long and hard about her next question. "If you could only pick one of them to kill, who would you choose? Him, or your sister?"

"How is that even a question? Of course I'd kill my-!" Assassin's eyes blazed as she opened her mouth, as if the answer were so obvious, but all her fury was lost the second she found herself unable to answer. "I would kill him," she said, sighing after much deliberation. "My sister... I may hate her, but at least I can remember a time when I didn't hate her." Assassin stared at the wine bottle in her hands. Somehow, without even noticing, she and her master had already downed most of the bottle. She shook her head, pouring more out for her master at no more provocation than an offered glass, before finishing off the last drops herself. "I have to see her," she said. "I don't care what happens to me if I break my Geis; I have to see my sister. Seeing her dead, without that bastard cur there to get in my way, is the only way I can feel some sense of satisfaction for what's happened."

"Oh, don't you dare," Caren said, nudging up just the slightest bit of sleeve to reveal her Command Seals to Assassin. "I'll use all ten of these if I have to keep you in check."

"Then I'll go fight her eleven times! She's my sister! I'm the only one allowed to kill her!"

Across the table from Assassin, Caren sat in silence, only speaking up to ask "Could you share one of your positive memories of your sister with me? All I ever see in your dreams are the times you two fought."

Assassin smiled, saying as she thought back on a fond memory "I remember once, she and I snuck off into the forest when father had forbade us. We got lost, and stumbled across some members of a rival tribe who were pillaging an empty Roman camp." Assassin let out a single chuckle. "We must have been... Ten, or maybe twelve at the time, but we thrashed them all without breaking a sweat. Father scolded us when he learned what we had done, of course, but you'd never have known it from the look on his face when we showed him all the coins and linens we brought back!"

"But then, we just... Drifted apart. She went off into the woods one day, and when she came back she said one of the fae folk had blessed her. Father was so proud, but I..." Assassin shook her head. "Magic I had spent years studying, she could do without ever picking up a book. Where I had to keep up my training if I wanted to beat her in a fight, she could beat anyone without putting in a single minute's worth of effort. She became a hero to our tribe, and a teacher to the heroes that followed, while I just... If I hadn't become her enemy, would anyone have even remembered my name when I died?" Assassin had to force herself to stop; she hadn't meant to tell her master that much; "And why am I telling you all of this to begin with? Why do you care?"

Caren shrugged. "I could ask you the same question," she said. "Why did you care enough about me to make dinner?"

"Who even knows," Assassin said. "Besides, what does the reason matter when we're just going to go back to hating each other tomorrow?"

"I don't hate you," Caren said, matter-of-factly. "I never have. Your sour attitude may grate on me, but at the same time I know I've brought it all on myself for summoning you like this."

Assassin stared at Caren. Was that something not meant to antagonise she had just heard leave her master's mouth? "You must be just as out of it as I am, or I'm more out of it than I thought. Where's this coming from all of a sudden?"

"I'm not actually as callous as I come across," Caren said. I just have some... Difficulties, expressing myself positively. A bad habit I inherited from my father, I guess you could say."

"Does it always take half a bottle of wine before your softer side emerges, or am I just an extra-special case?"

This time, it was Caren's turn to laugh. "If that's what you want to believe."

Assassin nodded her head. Her dinner had gotten cold, but at least the wine kept her feeling warm. "You know something, master? Maybe I don't hate you as much as I thought. You're still a worthless, gutless wench for summoning me like this, but maybe..." Assassin sighed. "Thanks for listening, master."

"Any time."​
 
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What's this? An omake featuring Aífe? Well, it's not like we were doing anything interesting with her, so I figured it was free real estate to develop her relationships with her master and sister a little bit.
 
Where I had to keep up my training if I wanted to beat her in a fight, she could beat anyone without putting in a single minute's worth of effort.
Poor Aife. At least her effort actually gave her a Personal Skill that makes her more skillful than her sister, at least. Not like that's done much.

Well, it's not like we were doing anything interesting with her,
I KNOW, RIGHT!?
 
What's this? An omake featuring Aífe? Well, it's not like we were doing anything interesting with her, so I figured it was free real estate to develop her relationships with her master and sister a little bit.
Don't worry, I'm sure Aife will get her time once the base is done. What we really need is some more hype man Diarmuid (seriously, just search up his interactions with Fionn and you'll see).
 
What sort of hyping does our team need, in your opinion? And to whom are we being hyped? Ourselves?

Why is it that this immediately made me think of us getting a hype man? Like, we go to fight the Saints and this dude with a mic comes out of nowhere and starts shouting about the things we've done and how great our Servants are.
 
What sort of hyping does our team need, in your opinion? And to whom are we being hyped? Ourselves?
Probably just his Master - Hitomi, partly to give her courage and partly to give proper respect to his (temporary) liege. Seriously, he is a complete follower through and through.
Why is it that this immediately made me think of us getting a hype man? Like, we go to fight the Saints and this dude with a mic comes out of nowhere and starts shouting about the things we've done and how great our Servants are.
I mean, Diarmuid kinda is like that, though not necessarily to that degree. He's a very proud warrior who likes to talk a big game - mostly for the sake of his best friend and leader Fionn in life. Of course that comes with the downside not taking defeat lightly if it comes through non-chivalrous means, like how he died in Zero with that whole spiteful speech.
 
I mean, Diarmuid kinda is like that, though not necessarily to that degree. He's a very proud warrior who likes to talk a big game - mostly for the sake of his best friend and leader Fionn in life. Of course that comes with the downside not taking defeat lightly if it comes through non-chivalrous means, like how he died in Zero with that whole spiteful speech.
Do you mean... This speech? But no. I don't know how well I could pull of hype of that magnitude. That's a bit more... High-key than what I usually handle.
 
Do you mean... This speech? But no. I don't know how well I could pull of hype of that magnitude. That's a bit more... High-key than what I usually handle.
Idk, I just don't want Diarmuid to have the personality of a potato in comparison to the rest of the cast, as even Aife despite her limited appearances has significantly overshadowed his character.
 
Idk, I just don't want Diarmuid to have the personality of a potato in comparison to the rest of the cast, as even Aife despite her limited appearances has significantly overshadowed his character.
Listen, I know what you mean, and I can sympathise with how you feel. I don't want any character in the sequel feeling like a cardboard cutout. But I can only do so much, especially when we have such a large cast. Like I keep saying, it's incredibly difficult for me to manage scenes when there's 14 active participants, and if there's no room for a character to speak up in a dialogue-and-character-heavy scene, then chances are I won't find the space to include them.

Remember the first quest? Remember how Archer pushed us to step out of our comfort zone and be proactive at forming new relationships? Sure, we know Hitomi, but we've still got three new faces who have joined the team, plus one refugee from Asunaro, and we're not taking the time to get to know any of them. Oriko pushed to get to know Caren, there's no reason we can't do the same. Kirika was wa~ay worse to us than Assassin was when she first joined the team, but we got so close to her that she's now our Big Sis. Saber hasn't done anything to warrant being so left out of the loop.
 
This is a lovely aside, and it warms me up massively to Aife; especially since I can't help that Caren and Aife influence each other, and not in the best way.

As for Saber and Hitomi - I'd love for us to hang out, but there are time constraints on us - besides Madoka, who will always be at least my priority, there's the family and some little things like several magical girls trying to kill us.

*Ahem*. So inconsiderate of them.
 
As for Saber and Hitomi - I'd love for us to hang out, but there are time constraints on us - besides Madoka, who will always be at least my priority, there's the family and some little things like several magical girls trying to kill us.
I think people want more interaction with Diarmuid, rather than hanging out. He's mostly been limited to guard dog duty due to lack of mana, so hopefully that problem will go away soon.

Do you mean... This speech? But no. I don't know how well I could pull of hype of that magnitude. That's a bit more... High-key than what I usually handle.
I'm sure that Diarmuid could regale us with tales on how Fionn stabbed himself in the face to keep himself from falling asleep.
 
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This is all well and good. But are we talking a certain per cent of Grief relative to how much mana a given Soul Gem has, or is the number static for all girls? Take Oriko and Kirika, for example- Taking 10% from Oriko is no big deal, but taking that same 10% from Kirika is sudden;y a much bigger deal. So does Kirika's transmitter have a lower threshold, does Oriko's transmitter have a higher threshold, does each Soul Gem have its own threshold, or is the threshold static for all five girls?

You mean, the voters' best judgement, right?

I'm asking about before that. I'm thinking of this like an exercise in logical programming. Assuming two or more magical girls both meet the criteria to transmit, what is the order of priority in which they transmit? Who transmits first, and why; or does any transmitter that meets the criteria transmit at the same time? That's what I'm trying to get an answer to.

Clearly, you have not heard the same stories of inter-departmental fuckery that I have, because I have no doubt that some incompetent departments would in fact bungle an operation like this this badly.

Not to encourage metagaming or anything, obviously, but using diplomacy on Assassin of Blue, specifically, whom we have never met and have no negative emotions towards, outside of her being the Saints' physician, is not the same as using diplomacy on the Pleiades Saints.

If you don't have a better name, that's fine. I just happen to be a larger-than-average Tolkien buff, and I honestly can't look at the phrase and distance myself from his writing. It's more jarring to see it used in a non-Tolkien context than it is memey.

Dicing a post like this up to reply to it is against SV's Rule 4 - spaghetti posting is what we call it - it makes the conversation much, much harder to follow and it discourages responding to people holistically. While points have not been awarded, a Staff Notice has been logged against your account and further offences will garner you full infractions.

 
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I think people want more interaction with Diarmuid, rather than hanging out. He's mostly been limited to guard dog duty due to lack of mana, so hopefully that problem will go away soon.
Weird, right? I mean, he's not even a Lancer and he's still being shat on. Well, that'll be the old luck of the Irish, wouldn't it?
 
Day 7 Chapter 1
Day 7 Begin
Special Omake Episode

Your dreams are always the same; two woman, wearing the same face and hair, clash with spear and sword on a desloate isle of rocks, while the grey sky overhead masks the breaking of a sunless dawn. They scream at one another, their language foreign to your ears. Their footwork is immaculate, their faces stern, their blades sharp and tearing through they grey with each swipe and thrust. You don't know either of their names, or why they fight; only that they must. The rocks drop off down a sheer cliff face, where a pounding grey surf wracks the jagged stones at the bottom. Always is your heart gripped with a mix of fear and anticipation at the sight of those rocks; to force your opponent back to them would surely be victory, but to be forced back yourself would be certain defeat.

You wonder; which one of them is you, and which one is your opponent? Who are they, these two of twinned faces who would strike at one another as if to see the other dead?

You see through the eyes of an auburn-haired woman as she wades into the the thick of the dark forest. Her face is young, but familiar to you; she is one of the two whom you see always, dueling on that desolate rock. The thick forest canopy gives way to a clearing, where the bright sun overhead casts long shadows as it retreats into the underbrush. A gentle, quiet pool of water sits undisturbed. Always, you look down, seeing your reflection in the calm blue water.

You see yourself, crimson eyes staring at you through the mirror. This isn't your face; this is her face. Who are you? What is your name? Why do you wear this unfamiliar face?

A different set of red eyes stares at you, cherry set against a white face.

"... Is that the wish you would trade your soul for?"

And then...


Your eyes open, as they always do, to the inside of that briefcase; and as they always do, it takes your eyes a second to adjust to the world around you, to see that you haven't woken up inside that briefcase again. For one, if you had woken up inside that briefcase, your body would be cramped up inside a tiny space; instead, you wake up in a bed, your body tangled amid the blankets you slept in. In your sleep, you've thrown your pillow to the floor and wrapped your body in blankets like a cocoon, which takes you quite some time to untangle yourself from.

Once you've untangled yourself from your blankets, you set about to make your bed look something resembling presentable. It isn't perfect, but at least it looks like a normal girl slept here. Speaking of here, where exactly is here again? Oh, right, here is underneath the basement of a teddy bear museum! Your room is one of many like it; you aren't sure what the walls and floors are made of - stone, maybe, or concrete - but it's always cold to the touch and you're pretty sure it would hurt if you knocked your head into it. Aside from a bed, you've got a desk, a laptop with an internet connection, a closet and dresser full of clothes to wear, and a bedside table where you keep a few books, as well as your most important thing. Your bare feet are freezing as you hurry to slip them into something warmer and fluffier, a pair of socks from your dresser and slippers from under your bed.

Once your feet are suitably warm enough where you won't freeze to death walking around your room, you reach for the red bauble resting on your bedside table, affixing it to your right earlobe with care. As you slide the hook through the tiny pinprick in your ear, your fingers brush against the spot where that blonde girl tore it from your ear on Sunday night. What came over you back then? Your mind from back then is fuzzy; you can't remember much of anything. Whatever you did, you hope you didn't hurt her too badly.

Once you've finished adorning your ears with your most precious things and picked out something to wear - why are all your clothes black? Couldn't whoever did your shopping have given you one piece of clothing with a bit more colour to it? - you decide that breakfast would be a good idea. Well, your stomach decides that for you. Breakfast is; wait a second, where is breakfast again? You remember Kaoru saying that Berserker makes breakfast every day, but you can't remember where Kaoru said Berserker makes it!

"Good morning, master." An intruder! It takes a moment for your brain to remember that that isn't an intruder. "My apologies; did I startle you?"

"No, it's fine," you say. "I guess I'm still getting used to having a tag along like you, Lancer." You know Lancer told you her name once; Scat-Hock, or something like that. You don't have the easiest time wrapping your tongue around her native language, and you're pretty sure 'scat' is a bad word, so you'll stick with calling her Lancer for now.

Your name is Subaru Kazumi. At least, that's what everyone tells you. Some days, you aren't so sure.

Do you
[ ] Go get breakfast
-[ ] Try to find breakfast on your own
-[ ] Ask Lancer to help you find breakfast
-[ ] Find one of your friends, and see if they can help you find breakfast
[ ] Skip breakfast
-[ ] and talk to Lancer
--[ ] About herself
--[ ] About the other woman that looks like her
--[ ] About what she thinks of you
--[ ] About what she thinks of your friends
--[ ] About what she thinks of your friends' servants
--[ ] About what she thinks of your enemies
--[ ] Other (write-in)
-[ ] and find one of your friends to talk to
--[ ] About themselves
--[ ] About what they think of you
--[ ] About what they think of your servant
--[ ] About what they think of their servant
--[ ] Other (write-in)
-[ ] and visit Archer and Assassin in the hospital
-[ ] and bug Caster while he's working
[ ] Other (write-in)


Tuesday, 9 October 2012

Major objectives:
- Find out where you can get breakfast
- Find out more about your servant Lancer
- Find out more about your friends
- Find out more about your friends' servants
- Find out more about your enemies
- Find out more about yourself
 
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Since only one person had anything to say about what they wanted to do tomorrow (today) and several other people were opposed to the manner in which that person proposed going about their want, I have instead dropped us into Kazumi's shoes for the day.
 
"... Is that the wish you would trade your soul for?"
Oh. So that's why she has Item Creation (Spear). And why you chose the portrait with the diadem. And why some of her skills are wierd. And that would also explain the last omake. You know what? That explains a lot. I'm excited for this, actually.

[X] Go get breakfast
-[X] Ask Lancer to help you find breakfast
--[X] and talk to Lancer
---[X] About the other woman that looks like her
---[X] About what she thinks of your friends
---[X] About what she thinks of your friends' servants
---[X] About what she thinks of your enemies


This is what I'll go for right now.
 
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What were you expecting from a Kazumi perspective, then?
I honestly have no clue, I just know that the weird memory stuff where she half forgets and half remembers things wasn't it. Basically I was expecting her to be more like she was in the manga. The main thing was that I wasn't expecting her to distrust her friends at all.
 
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I honestly have no clue, I just know that the weird memory stuff where she half forgets and half remembers things wasn't it. Basically I was expecting her to be more like she was in the manga. The main thing was that I wasn't expecting her to distrust her friends at all.
I'm being mindful of how the world has changed thanks to the events of the previous quest. Kazumi in the manga wasn't immediately pressed into a gang war against a rival faction of girls complete with magical punch ghosts bound to each combatant as living weapons. Her friends in the manga were also less cagey to her about the whole thing, since in the manga they weren't being outright manipulated by Kyubey into participating in said gang war. Evil Nuts are doing something completely different to what they did in the manga, and have a different origin as well, so the situation in Asunaro is completely different from what we saw in the manga as well.

Basically, while the characters themselves I'm going to try my best to present as being the same as their manga counterparts, the environmental factors and stressors working on them are different, so you'll be seeing different sides of them than what you saw in the manga. Because if I just told the same story as what you already knew from the manga, that wouldn't be very fun, would it?
[X] Go get breakfast
-[X] Ask Lancer to help you find breakfast

This is what I'll go for right now.
I suppose I should mention that we can always extend any of the conversation options I gave us to breakfast as well. Is there anything we want to talk to our friends or to Lancer about?
 
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