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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition

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Look, we already invented basic Cosmetic Biosculpting, Wet AI, and touchable holograms. The AI Catgirl Waifus were already going to be inevitable.
 
BOTcommander said:
Some GDI intern can probably program a simple holographic Vtuber avatar in a day. A holoprojector in the end is just a very fancy screen. This is not Star Trek.
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To be fair, we do have some kind of "hard light" technology from the Scrin/Visitors, so we have at least some of the stuff we could plausibly begin to develop into a Star Trek holodeck. But we're a long way from there as of right now.
 
So anyone got any ideas what humanities feeling for the specific alien races could be, because can two can imagine right now is relating to the Krogans about the fuckery that has happened to them, and the geth need therapy because they're acting like a abused wife with how they still want there Masters back even after the shit they did to them?
 
The most important thing our new holograms will do is obviously let AI have proper 3d avatars like Cortana does

Manowl said:
So anyone got any ideas what humanities feeling for the specific alien races could be, because can two can imagine right now is relating to the Krogans about the fuckery that has happened to them, and the geth need therapy because they're acting like a abused wife with how they still want there Masters back even after the shit they did to them?
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Asari are gonna be fine. They're diplomatic and extremely unlikely to attack us because they'd rather just spend a couple of hundred years to manipulate befriend us

Salarians will hit all our trauma buttons. Pretty self explanatory really.

Krogan... honestly I'm not sure. I don't think curing the genophage will be likely but some of the more disciplined Krogan like Wrex might join us?

Turians will either be our nemeses or our best bros. Their society has a lot in common with ours.

The Geth will be adopted. This is not optional. They are AI who wish their creators didn't abuse them, we're essentially the much better stepdad that turns up later

The Quarians will be... complicated. Some of them will hate us because AI, some of them will like us because we give well paying jobs to people who are good with MEtech and don't discriminate on race. There could be a major growth of the faction that wants peace with the Geth once they learn about us and our AI

Oh yeah, and the Batarians. If GDI gods to war against any of the Citadel governments it's almost certain to be them and for good reason
 
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One of the key differences to note between the SA and GDI, apart from the whole Tiberium and Tech differences, is that GDI's population is much lower and was on the decline for most of recent history. Even if there is a baby boom caused by the TCN 's completion, there will be a much greater focus on protecting their civilians, and colonies will be much more defended than the SA's choke-point and rapid response strategy. Both because being able to response rapidly won't bring back any valuable lives lost during the initial attack, and because GDI knows that advanced species like the Scrin and Bentusaari are out there, so they'll be more hand-on than the Systems Alliances shotgun approach to colonization.

So GDI will be even less tolerant towards the Batarians and their slave raids, and depending on how the First Contact occurs, will be much more hostile towards the Turian Hierachy, since I think there was a bit about the Turians freely targeting civilian areas since there isn't such a thing as Turian civilians. I think that might just be HFY fanon though, since it doesn't make much sense, since the Turians should know that most other species do make such a distinction, so that reasoning is just bizarre.
 
Manowl said:
Any attempted manipulation from the asari will trigger people hard because of kane is much better at it than they were.
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I doubt it. On either aspect, really. Kane being better than the Asari at talking and that Mighty Whitey Human will see through their feeble deceptions and contemptuously laugh before dismantling their half-baked schemes.
 
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since I think there was a bit about the Turians freely targeting civilian areas since there isn't such a thing as Turian civilians. I think that might just be HFY fanon though, since it doesn't make much sense, since the Turians should know that most other species do make such a distinction, so that reasoning is just bizarre.
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One idea that has been tossed around is that the turians basically expect either for battlefields to be chosen in order to avoid civilians getting in the crossfire, or for the civilians themselves to head to a designated neutral zone. Any who remain in the combat zone are thus 'obviously' not civilians.
 
WestOrEast said:
I doubt it. On either aspect, really. Kane being better than the Asari at talking and that Mighty Whitey Human will see through their feeble deceptions and contemptuously laugh before dismantling their half-baked schemes.
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Oh, the asari are better in general, for sure.

But this merry band of monkey's has been Kanes circus for the last couple thousand years. He knows exactly how we tick.

We will not catch every scheme, or dismantle every plot. But the ones we do will be done with judicious applications of very angry InOps operatives.
 
Model DC.14F said:
So GDI will be even less tolerant towards the Batarians and their slave raids, and depending on how the First Contact occurs, will be much more hostile towards the Turian Hierachy, since I think there was a bit about the Turians freely targeting civilian areas since there isn't such a thing as Turian civilians. I think that might just be HFY fanon though, since it doesn't make much sense, since the Turians should know that most other species do make such a distinction, so that reasoning is just bizarre.
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There's also the factor that GDI ships are much less likely to be able to be dismissed as "oh, pirates/scavengers/unimportant people we can kick around", if the first contact is with Turians. Which, itself, is not necessarily likely.
And yes, there is a lot of fanon around that, that has contaminated most people's thoughts about what happened.
WestOrEast said:
I doubt it. On either aspect, really. Kane being better than the Asari at talking and that Mighty Whitey Human will see through their feeble deceptions and contemptuously laugh before dismantling their half-baked schemes.
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There's also the issue that GDI is not unfamiliar with its own people behaving in manipulative ways, so I rather think the "Asari as a species are manipulative enough to trigger red flags" idea is not well-founded.
 
Either way I just don't see how the Asari should be able to get away with so many schemes without a equal amount of failure and getting the reputation of schemers no matter how much they try to pr other aliens into not doing so.
 
Probably because the Asari are extremely good at PR. "If evil, why hot?", but unironically. And less evil, more the usual political douchebaggery pushed a bit farther. Because your average Asari politician has 200 years of work experience and comes from a race consisting entirely of blue space babes. That's just an amazingly powerful combination.
 
Main issue with the krogan is that yes, they absolutely got fucked over by the genophage... and your average krogan is, as depicted, a violent, aggressive, abrasive asshole. And it's not because of the genophage. Krogan that can think beyond the next fight and/or dreams of something other than revenge on the salarians and turians are likely to be rather uncommon.

The issue with the asari is likely to be the same as with the Citadel in general; it's very, very neoliberal hell hole where corporations have incredible power and the general population often struggles. This is not helped by the asari effectively being a gerontocracy that concentrates power into a small number of very rich old people.

GDI... is not. It's no command economy, but the government is aggressively interventionist in regards to the economy and has had a habit of heavily tilting the balance of power towards the work force during the quest. This will cause friction.
 
Manowl said:
and the geth need therapy because they're acting like a abused wife with how they still want there Masters back even after the shit they did to them?
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One of the best theories I've seen for that is that the quarians' reaction to, and treatment of, the geth back during the time of the Morning War may not actually have been uniform. It raises tricky questions of why there don't seem to be living quarians in the Rannoch system anymore, but really... it kind of does make sense. Why would you expect a whole species to suddenly commit to killing off the geth as soon as one of them asks "does this unit have a soul?" Normally there'd be some degree of political division over that.

Maybe the geth want a second chance to get back the kind of quarians they miss from before the Morning War.
 
Genuinely I cannot remember if this is actual canon or quest fanon I've internalized as making sense, but I did read somewhere that the Morning War also contained elements of a regular civil war which the pro-AI adherents lost decisively.
 
grimely said:
Genuinely I cannot remember if this is actual canon or quest fanon I've internalized as making sense, but I did read somewhere that the Morning War also contained elements of a regular civil war which the pro-AI adherents lost decisively.
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Not sure about a civil war but the Geth Fighters mission shows that there were at least some Quarians who were on the side of the Geth
 
It's been a long time since I played a Mass Effect game, but I don't recall a civil war ever directly stated to have happened. But effectively, that's kinda what happened? The quarians did have people sympathetic to the geth, and they did take up arms against their fellow quarians. It's just never stated what happened to them. They probably all near died to a one, because there's no quarians on Rannoch. The geth might've killed them, they're not above making stupid choices. My bet would be it was a small group of sympathizers that were quickly captured or killed, and the quarian governments went back to destroying all geth. That lead to the geth revolt, and most quarians didn't fully understand what was happening until it the fighting was in their streets.
 
By the way, was it ever stated if the Mars Base or the Charon Relay were still around?

I think there was a bit way back where we did a recon of Mars that turned up some signs of STUs that some theorized may have to do with the base, but I don't remember anything about Charon.
 
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