Ithillid on Discord about the GD-3 specifications said:
Ithillid on Discord explaining the design specification for the GD-3 said:
There's some conflict here. Would this or would this not be a weapon we'd be developing as part of the GD-3 project?
These two project have no further stages, so there isn't much point to throwing that many dice at them.
Is there any benefit to rushing this?
It frees up the -250 Processing we're using to retrofit the plants, BUT we can only throw one die at it at a time because Processing Limits.
I believe that's gone away. The limit wasn't mentioned this turn:
You may disagree, but completing Perennials is a plan goal that I would like to see crossed off as soon as possible so that we can focus on Kudzu and other projects.
It brings up the processing cap and helps increase the amount of STUs we have available later without consuming additional logistics and so on. Also, it prevents them from sitting around forever.
Perennials and Kudzu are both plan goals. One less dice on Perennials still gives a 68% chance of completion this turn, and that die could be used on the Kudzu. There is no bonus for focussing dice on one project.
We also have a bit of a collective habit of fixating on one project at the expense of others. Which I'm not specifically accusing you of doing here. I just see the Processing Refits as something we can achieve with a long term commitment of continuous funding. So I was wondering if there was a benefit to finishing it early that I had missed.
As a note if we are to try and do Karachi then ZOCOM can do Karachi and only Karachi. That means no additional responsibilities like the RZ containment lines which fall under their purview.
This is very true, both are plan goals and there is no bonus for focussing on a single project. But, I would rather be assured of 2 completed projects than to see Kudzu also sit on a 68% chance of completion as well along with a tiny portion of myomers. We do need myomers, on that we are agreed but I'd like to see T-Glass out of the way before focussing on myomers. I would also like to see Bergen get some love as that will likely synergise into other developments and projects as well along with providing us with a trickle of energy.
So, getting this out the way is mainly just for bringing our existing infrastructure up to speed sooner rather than later so that we can play with more STUs and plan for actually expanding our refinery network as and when we need it later.
Interesting. A tightly monofocused plan, which makes significant compromises (we can't spend dice on Capital Goods production under a plan like this, we need the Energy too much) in exchange for being very good at a specific area.
I think this is a bad allocation choice. There is no rollover that we know of from this stage of Perennials. As such, it is probably a bad idea to invest three dice when two might complete the action. I'd recommend a two-and-two allocation.
1) We may not be able to spend more than one die on refinery refits this turn; we haven't been able to before.
As noted, this is intensely mono-focused, but that's not inherently a bad thing. The main problem I see is that it's unclear whether the vastly expanded Apollo production will do us as much good as would spending the dice on consumables.
The Plan doesn't care which quarter we complete the project in. How much we can accomplish is determined by how many dice we have available. As such, wasting dice purely to finish the project faster is a very bad idea; it just means we have less projects done at the end of the Plan.
Unless we can stockpile STUs, and we've been given no indication that we can... how does increasing the STU surplus directly benefit us before we have ways to spend it?
Could you please list some concrete examples of this, because I have no clear idea what you're talking about.
So... with the perennials, this basically sounds like "it would offend my sense of tidiness if the project doesn't complete next turn, and I'm willing to waste dice to ensure that this doesn't happen."
The big question is whether this merits a total realignment of our entire industrial policy to slam out all three Apollo factories NOW NOW NOW.
Fair point, it is something that I may consider changing to on the next revision as I said to HousePet.
So, for these I'll address them in bullet points in the order they were presented.
So, for the Apollos it is unclear if there will be an immediate boon for our forces. Much like with shipyards the fighter plants take some time to hit full saturation but as I will explain below we are starting to run into the limit of just how many Apollos we already have and are looking like we're starting to hit the end of the Firehawks days as a frontline fighter.
It is very true that the plan does not care but I am to a degree thinking ahead with the STUs in that we may very well need plenty of them quickly and I would rather have them available before they are needed so that we avoid having to rush production for them. It is true that we don't gain an immediate benefit from having extra STUs and I too am unsure as to whether or not we can stockpile them but we will need them for our gacha techs. Though, we may be able to since we can already stockpile energy, cap goods and food. All of which are valuable to our efforts and gained an option to stockpile through having that surplus over regular production and being things that we will absolutely need to have stockpiles of in the event of a general war.
I won't lie, it does offend my sense of tidiness though as said above I may change it next revision.
From what I've seen of what we've been told, Nod has been making a concerted effort to gain at least parity with us in terms of air power. They unleashed new cybernetically controlled fighters, we started building more Apollos to even the score and made the QAAM, they built better Venoms, the Orca was redesigned, they've deployed more grav-drive fighters too, the new Orcas are being rolled out. We are now starting to see their fighters getting even better, with additional capability enhancements that will push them past what the Firehawk can likely handle. If their goalpost is parity, then I want to kick that post several miles down the road. The Apollos can't be everywhere and I feel that it is time for them to become the frontline Initiative fighter jet to deal with Nod. I don't want rid of the Firehawk, but it can perform CAS duties well, works well as a naval aircraft and can serve well as a second-line fighter.
See, I'm not saying you're wrong here, but I am saying that I think you're reacting too hard by slamming all the way over from one end of the scale to the other. All our other military problems didn't go away just because this military problem has just now been brought to our attention. All the stuff that was important before is still important now.
...Doesn't this basically involve you arguing that you know better than the Navy does what classes of ships the Navy needs? If they think they need escort carriers to cover convoys, why argue?
Karachi sprint is the equivalent of GDI going up to NOD's house with a big grin before smashing a window and throwing in a grenade.
