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A Song Of Peace: Imperial Regent Quest [40k]

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So there are probably a lot of insightful things to say about the last update, but I'm just smiling at how Sanguinis just followed his little Elder sister out of the Warp. And knowing that he's Sanguinis and thus family means I'm smiling at how he immediately tries to lie abd pretend he's only looking out for himself with helping Pandora and she instantly sees through it and calls him on it.

Swordomatic said:
"I'll get us out, don't worry. Just need to do what I can before that."
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Like this bit is both funny because it's Sanguinis she's saying that to, and also sweet. Because she's unknowingly saying it to her little brother.
 
EldritchObserver said:
The Marines Malevolent, despite inflicting... "Collateral Damage", still get results, which to the High Lords and other big wigs of The Imperium is all that matters in the end with the exception of some truly catastrophic fumble. So, unless they turn out to be Chaos worshipers or rebellious, we'll have to either convince/intimidate the High Lords or incriminate them to Excommunicate their repugnant selves in the next couple of turns.

Our best bet to kick them out is to wait and gather political power.
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They're well on their way to doing that themselves. Their rampant assholery means they've alienated all their suppliers and are having to resort to raiding their theoretical allies to get basic war gear. They'll get themselves declared renegade without our input sooner or later.
Ihaxlikenoob said:
Assuming you actually want to know, Greyfax got repokeballed by Trazyn, along with Cawl (*Sob*) and Creed.

God, I want to liberate them (Creed & Cawl really) from Solemnace bad.
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We need to check with the Grey Knights to see if we can borrow some Tessaract Labyrinths, or at least a stasis crypt of some kind. See if Trazyn will be willing to trade his Cawl and Creed exhibits for an already posed Swarmlord or Malys.
 
Odysseus2099 said:
We need to check with the Grey Knights to see if we can borrow some Tessaract Labyrinths, or at least a stasis crypt of some kind. See if Trazyn will be willing to trade his Cawl and Creed exhibits for an already posed Swarmlord or Malys.
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Pandora could do better than just borrowing some of them: we could free up their entire stock of occupied Tesseract Labyrinths by perma-killing every single Daemon inside. Hell if Pandora manages to teach the Grey Knights Sanctic Daemonology and/or Sorcery before/as we visit we could conceivably use the opportunity as a teaching/practice session for the Grey Knights to invoke 'Rituals that can banish an Exalted Greater Daemon with almost contemptuous ease' and 'True Death but cheap'.

And wouldn't that be a sight? A bunch of silver eight foot tall superhuman giants sitting in at a seminar taught by a petite pink-haired Goddess about the topic of permanently murdering chaotic warp-spawn. Bonus points if Pandora is holding a Tesseract that is shaking vigorously from the sheer fear of its current prisoner.
 
Daedwartin said:
To be fair, Celestine is also someone that regardles rather clearly have shown to have died. As a rule, if someone who is very clearly dead to the point they collected the body and confirmed it sort of dead is suddenly in front of you, and has a pair of wings to go along..... Why would you actually trust them, especially in a setting like 40k where Daemons exist who would absolutely love to try and trick you with such a trick. Especially since Celestine is actually a daemon now, just one of the Emperor. The Emperor generally is held to not have them.

As for us...we are literally a random teenager. Seriously, theres no reason for us to be considered seriously in anything.
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Because she is a daemon of the Empire's own corpse-god. It is not Celestine's fault Greyfax is ignorant as to the nature of what she serves.
 
Daedwartin said:
To be fair, Celestine is also someone that regardles rather clearly have shown to have died. As a rule, if someone who is very clearly dead to the point they collected the body and confirmed it sort of dead is suddenly in front of you, and has a pair of wings to go along..... Why would you actually trust them, especially in a setting like 40k where Daemons exist who would absolutely love to try and trick you with such a trick. Especially since Celestine is actually a daemon now, just one of the Emperor. The Emperor generally is held to not have them.

As for us...we are literally a random teenager. Seriously, theres no reason for us to be considered seriously in anything.
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That's all well and good, but Greyfax was in a pokeball until Trazyn took her out of his PC and threw her at the black crusade on Cadia. She doesn't know about the backstory.
 
Rule 2: Don’t Be Hateful, or, "Malevolent Marines apologia is very much against the threadbanner policy. Let's not do that."
Ramble said:
Can we excommunicate the Marines Malevolent? We have the authority to do that right?
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>unpopular opinion: the marines malevolent aint that bad

they are basically single minded focused on tasks without any bullshit tradition or rituals
you task them with demolishing a building?

they will activate the explosives,if civilians get caught so be it
but they dont go out of their way to cause collateral
Is just that they do do sidequests

they actually get shit done dedpite being unlikeable pricks

So best you can probably do is simply asign missions with little to no civilians on the area

And actually suplying them gear so they dont have to steal shit from other chapters
 
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armentho said:
>unpopular opinion: the marines malevolent aint that bad

they are basically single minded focused on tasks without any bullshit tradition or rituals
you task them with demolishing a building?

they will activate the explosives,if civilians get caught so be it
but they dont go out of their way to cause collateral
Is just that they do do sidequests

they actually get shit done dedpite being unlikeable pricks

So best you can probably do is simply asign missions with little to no civilians on the area

And actually suplying them gear so they dont have to steal shit from other chapters
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They are disliked in the Imperium for doing Excessively violent acts by the standards of the Imperium, when excessive violence is the norm.

I don't see that flying with Panda at the helm.

Also, if you have Malevolent in your name, you know you're baddies, and are fine with it.

What Panda wants from her future chapters is probably the Reasonable Marines :V
 
IronFist said:
They are disliked in the Imperium for doing Excessively violent acts by the standards of the Imperium, when excessive violence is the norm.

I don't see that flying with Panda at the helm.

Also, if you have Malevolent in your name, you know you're baddies, and are fine with it.

What Panda wants from her future chapters is probably the Reasonable Marines :V
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The malovolent are a flavor of reasonable marines tho

Their collateral is not "we killed humans for looking funny at us"

Their collateral is "the chaos space marine was using a civilian as meat shield,i took the shot through the civilian to kill the chaos space marine"

For example they bombed a refugee camp.....because orks were about over run it and tske over the military gear and supplies of the camp,but for all their callousnes and indiference they have acomplished pretty much every task given to them and have never strayed into chaos corruption nor usual space marine bullshit like secret wars or big heresies

Ruthless sure as hell but is not gratuitous or wasteful collateral damage as other chaoters tradition
Just simply slap missions that have not that much civilians on them,like attacks on chaos controlled territory or xenos

They are better suited as shock and awe troops against strong enemied than subtle operations
 
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armentho said:
>unpopular opinion: the marines malevolent aint that bad

they are basically single minded focused on tasks without any bullshit tradition or rituals
you task them with demolishing a building?

they will activate the explosives,if civilians get caught so be it
but they dont go out of their way to cause collateral
Is just that they do do sidequests

they actually get shit done dedpite being unlikeable pricks

So best you can probably do is simply asign missions with little to no civilians on the area

And actually suplying them gear so they dont have to steal shit from other chapters
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armentho said:
The malovolent are a flavor of reasonable marines tho

Their collateral is not "we killed humans for looking funny at us"

Their collateral is "the chaos space marine was using a civilian as meat shield,i took the shot through the civilian to kill the chaos space marine"

For example they bombed a refugee camp.....because orks were about over run it and tske over the military gear and supplies of the camp,but for all their callousnes and indiference they have acomplished pretty much every task given to them and have never strayed into chaos corruption nor usual space marine bullshit like secret wars or big heresies

Ruthless sure as hell but is not gratuitous or wasteful collateral damage as other chaoters tradition
Just simply slap missions that have not that much civilians on them,like attacks on chaos controlled territory or xenos

They are better suited as shock and awe troops against strong enemied than subtle operations
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I am 99% sure that simping for the Marines Malevolent goes against the threadbanner.
 
sabreFather said:
I am 99% sure that simping for the Marines Malevolent goes against the threadbanner.
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thanks for the notice

tho im not glorifying them as noble fighthers or the like,they are assholes all the way
just that getting rid of them would be a bad idea because they actually do their work

so untill actual reforms are enacted best thing can be done with them is asign them missions and theaters of operation where collateral damage is irrelevant
 
Rovos said:
Basically instead of Cawl and Guilliman the Imperium got us instead. we swapped places with him as to who would help the imperium.
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Wait, w h a t.

Well shit. On one hand, sending clandestine operatives to Solemnace to break Cawl and Creed out should be possible. Emperor knows we need reformists in... basically everywhere.

On the other, Necron Tomb World. Awake. With Trazyn. At least he's not going to kill them, and just put them on one of the exhibits...?
 
Serialkilerwhale said:
She's from...sometime after the heresy but significantly earlier than just about any other character around, (Trazyn pokeball collection nonsense) a hardcore puritan at that, and pretty much attempted to have Celestine killed then and there. So don't take it personally when she calls you a which or daemon. She probably thinks the same of literally everyone else.
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Since my main source of Wh40k lore was memes and shitpost, i thought Inquisitor Greyfax had a crush on Saint Celestine.

 
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Scarecrow said:
Don't I remember something about Cawl having many clones of himself? There should still be *a* Cawl on Mars no?
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In "Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work", its mentioned that he stores memory data across multiple locations, so his memory is quite literally all over the place and what he knows at a given time isn't the full extent - he just can't store it all at once and undergoes a process of overwriting his memories from backups when needed.

There's no mention about clones of him though, from what I can recall.

You might be thinking of his chief minion, who is an imperfect clone of his old friend, Friedrich Adam Ship Qvo, with his helper there being Qvo-87, so clone 87 since Cawl started replacing them as they expired. They all have distinct personalities though and don't identify as his old friend.

He also built the Cawl Inferior communications device that emulates him via coded, pre-programmed messages supposedly... though it might be an AI (it petitions Guilliman to appoint it as Fabricator-General of Mars and Cawl was apparently not aware of that) ... and is in any case physically confined to Guilliman's flagship, Macragge's Honour.
 
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Rovos said:
Cadia. basically Cawl, Greyfax and creed i believe all got nabbed by Trayzin after Cadia
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Yup. Trazyn would have also wanted Celestine and Pandora, but Celestine was dead and Pandora managed to get away.
Scarecrow said:
... I know that in canon Cawl makes it off Cadia. How did we manage to save a billion Cadians and then accidentally get Cawl captured as a consequence? :/
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Because, as far as we know from the latest Interlude, Cawl was busy under the surface of Cadia, probably trying to activate more Necron pylons, while Pandora was on the surface doing her best to save people.
 
Realistically I do not think we should have anything to do with excommunicating certain chapters or rewarding them for that matter. It is beneath our pay grade. If You want certain marines to stop acting like jackbooted thugs, change the law such that it no longer requires jackbooted thugs. Like ultimatly the point we have to make is institutional and individual chapters unless we are talking about founding Chapters, or like successors to the Grey Knights are not going to make a difference on that level.
 
Swordomatic said:
It isn't just the Blood Angels, but the entire 9th Legion, and she's not just setting up recruiting worlds (for the Successors sticking around) but preparing for future musters of the Imperial Guard.

She isn't Guiliman, who has millennia of tradition, wrote the literal book, and is a bureaucratic genius. Pandora will have to do things the long way.

Anyhow Pandora is in no position to rewrite the Codex anyways, but it does have (sort of) a protocol for this sort of situation. The Blood Angels and all Successors remaining behind the Great Rift will probably claim they are indefinitely on crusade, and so the one thousand line marines limit no longer applies.
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o_O:evil:



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