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Which is a good thing honestly.
A Song Of Peace: Imperial Regent Quest [40k]
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I mean if they can make a soul stone work for them then I'm all for letting them stay around. we've got enough shit on our plate then to add them to the list of things we need to get rid of.
that said the entire society has kind of been built around being well but who is stereo typical evil as you can get. you might get some people whom can be converted away from those practices.
but I don't think it's a violation of the rules to say that any dark Eldar that we catch going about their enslaving and torturing routine have forfeited their right to existence. Because that is an actual choice to go out there murder people for sport and pleasure and bring people back to the dark city for their own profits.
Civilians in the dark city probably can be brought back into the galactic fold of the seinCivilians in the dark city probably can be brought back into the galactic fold of the sane with some effort and can be very useful with what they bring back because they have more tech than their craft world cousins.
the Cabals, Witch cult, and by all that is holy theHaemonculi? Those we hand over to the sons of Vulcan. His Sons know mercy and compassion. They also know when it's time to bring out a gratuitous amount of flamers.
I can't imagine her having that much mercy for them after she sees what a "Creative" Haemonculi can will and has done.
to reiterate one more time for the mods because they're being very active I am not advocating for the complete destruction of their species. merely the ones that actively go do Dark Eldar thing to people.
and I have a question about the Ork's do they classify as a species or as a bio weapon?
I need to know what the acceptable terms are so that I do not advocate for anything that is against the rules.
She is not really bitching at the Grey Knights so much as at the idiot god who did not see fit to teach them better. At the end of the day every Grey Knight alive today is as much a victim of that same zero tolerance policy as they are a perpetrator, they are the lucky ones who lived yes, but they want through the hell that is generously called their training.
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To expand on this always bare in mind the vast majority of the DE population are half-born, AKA clones of actual DE who are enslaved from the moment of their birth and realistically long before that as well. A very small minority of them can rise above this station through being several times more cruel than the average DE and impressing true born, but even those guys have to deal with incredible social stratification because of it.
However, for 99.9% of them, their treatment is only marginally better than every other poor bastard that gets dragged to Commoragh, and the marginally is only because they're eldar to some degree, the difference however, is relatively minor, especially since their pain feeds DE more than normal since they are still eldar so feel it more intensely.
Essentially there's a reason a ton of DE join the Yinnari, and its not because a bunch of true born had a change of heart primarily they're made up of nut jobs like Lilith Hesperax and half-born who want a shot at anything different.
Of course as you say they've been raised in this system of utter bullshit their entire life, know basically nothing else and are encouraged to hit down rather than up, but honestly if the opportunity came to rescue a ton of DE halfborn and hide them somewhere I'd absolutely take it.
That said I will say with few reservations (and I think few people will disagree) that the DE highborn do need to go, especially if Vect ever gave them a shred of attention (either as an ally of a threat, because that means they're dangerous/ruthless enough for him to consider them either or.)
Neither of which are the reasons she's angry at the GK, and no it always takes a lot of cultists to take a planet, even if they get key figures in a gov like the governor etc. unsurprisingly most people tend not to be happy when the intestine stranglers roll into town acting like they own the place and chaos taint as Pandora puts it does not spread fast enough to compensate.
And while they don't mention it (for a reason) the aptly named months of shame rather demonstrate why it is a really stupid policy, that not only killed tons of veteran troops who didn't break when exposed to Angron (cause if there was ever an opportunity to do so it'd be then), but also resulted in the heavy casualties to the GK including a Grand Master, an Inquisitor Lord (all of this being after the 96 GK killed by Angron) and heavy casualties to the Space Wolves as well.
All for what? Taint that ended up not being there, because certainly none of the people the wolves evacuated suddenly turned into blood cultists. Almost like their policy was incredibly stupid and there's a reason the Grey Knights themselves refer to it as the months of shame for being an entirely avoidable mess that got over 2 companies worth of their marines killed and only 1 of them was against demons!
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Nope, not a single mention.
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As expected, the enemy is consolidating their forces around the primary battlegrounds.
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Incidentally, there seems to have been some confusion about the Tyranids at Seraphax. The update has been fixed, and you can refer to the above for the edited line.
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mmm...it feels like if we jump Baal we could theoretically crush the majority of the hive fleet, 20/32 Norn Queens is a lot and would completely disrupt them. My fear is if we do that and the nids completely pull back from the shrine world then Khorne is unopposed there.
At the same time I think we need to jump through to Baal ASAP, Khorne's getting desperate to scrap together the juice for Skarbrand, my hope would be that they can hold it from getting that energy and Kha'banda's used up juice summoning reinforcements so he's weakened. With the Sanguinor in play and Skarbrand not quite there yet I think now is our best chance to strike hard for Baal, preferably punch through and try to force both enemy forces to concentrate everything on Baal Secundus using Panda as bait.
For Kha'banda especially it'd force him to divide his forces, or risk us gaining dominance on the moon.
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If the Nids draw back from the shrine world, the Imperials can ship in more forces. Presumably, the shadow in the warp around that world is weakening.
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Mmm, Ka'bandha is still the head of the main Khornate operation, taking him out would not be without strategic benefits.
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Hmm, probably drawing them towards Baal itself, hoping that Imperials and Chaos will be too busy with each other.
He is explicitly - I think Swordo said in thread, but its not exactly a stretch to surmise, because has the named character,
- the heart of the sacred numerology ritual of 64 Khornate demons currently fucking about on Baal. Banishing him is liable to bring a lot of the Khornate band with him.
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The Shadow in the Warp remains dense enough that warp travel is still not advisable, especially with the Astronomican cut off.
For now, it's Panda or Bust.
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To be fair to that idiot God he was kind of viciously murdered by his own son that has been possessed by four giant reality tumors and has been trying to keep everything from falling apart
while it is true that they suffer greatly at their own hands I am going to bring up the fact that for some their corruption might be a little too deep if their souls are constantly fed off of by Slaniesh there's something there. I think we can use soulstones as a benchmark if there's enough there so they can use that and not be eaten by she who thirsts it's probably a safe bet for them to be adopted by the craftworlds.
Eldar diplomacy being as it is I still trust them to managing their own people more or less.
i'm not even going to try to defend the whole month of shame event because that was just gratuitous Grimm dark nonsense and I'm surprised the GREY KNIGHTS were dumb enough to follow the inquisitior dumb enough to question the loyalty of a first founding Legion (Not chapter since they never broke up) over some guardsmen
also going to point out that a Plaugebearer that is placed inside a hive city central water plant is going to cause a rather messy situation due to it being well aPlaugebearer. And a ritual to bring forth a lesser demon isn't that hard to pull off.
Khorne cults are less of an issue true since ... well they tend to be very obvious and prone to getting gun down by a lot of guns.
Really it's the Nurgle and Bird brain cults that are the most dangerous. Due to plauge and warp magic nonsense specifically. A place like the 500 worlds might be able to handle a Nurgle plauge but most hive worlds? It's not pretty. And well magic nonsense is rather nonsenseical
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Near as I can tell he's the lynch pin to the entire operation, Khorne's attacking because Ka'banda considers the Blood Angels his and his alone to kill, not a bunch of mindless bugs.
Panda's presence changes this somewhat, but if he goes Khorne's forces in the region will be very disoriented and the blood angels won't have to be dealing with the effects his presence has on the black rage and red thirst.
I'll also note that Baal's likely where we'll find both the enemies strongest combatants, the Swarm Lord's still not deployed after all so we have to take into account that with 20 Norn Queens, Pandora, Ka'banda and the Sanguinor there if ever there was a time for the Hive to bring it out it'll be at Baal, so we can't forget that.
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Actually the Swarmlord has been deployed since we arrived at the Baal system.
This is before we chose Steeltower:
How does it cost him such power to just have them travel over there from other battlefields in the system?
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Actually the Swarmlord has been deployed since we arrived at the Baal system.
This is before we chose Steeltower:
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He has to make up for whatever those Bloodthirsters have given up in the amount of slaughter they could have committed on those other fronts.
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The real issue with soul stones is lack of soul stones near as I can tell.
It is, but the fact remains there's a pretty recent book that takes a deep dive into it from the perspective of a GK (Hyperion) and well they believe this stuff.
I know, but that's got nothing to do with the issue Pandora's angry about she (and I) are well aware of how clever use of daemons even weak can be incredibly powerful, but her issue is that the reaction of many GK or inquisitors would be to kill off the population of the entire hive after preventing the Plaguebringer from using it because the cult at any point had access to it (the water supply.)
Also no, rituals to bring out lesser demons are generally not easy for random cultists, for those able to freely practise and learn that's another matter, but if we're talking about a "professional" if you will then its already a different issue.*
*To clarify summoning a demon is relatively simple, having the demon not just kill everything in the room, and vanish after a minute or two is another matter, you need daemon hosts and the like for that and daemon hosts are complicated.
They're the most traditionally annoying, but every chaos cult has its own ways of being nightmarish. Khornate ones for example are some of the best at flying under the radar, especially with two of Khorne's things being "honour" and "justice" which can make them very good arbiters, especially with the imperium's standards of police brutality.
Ah good. I was worried it'd pop up at the shrine world...actually given that its seemingly a mind moved between bodies its still a possibility, but given that they're focusing on Baal for now hopefully it'll stay there for now.
And if so I'll note that if Skarbrand is popped the Swarmlord is likely our best (heh) distraction carnifex.
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I mean no disrespect but I'm going to point this out.
This is a Khornate operation. Since when do they really need a strategic leader? 98% of the time their plan is charge towards the biggest concentration of people with blood and try to put that blood on the outside of their bodies. Unlike other chaos forces they will be almost unaffected by the loss in leadership beyond that leaders's combat ability and cohesion if there's no other obvious target to run at screaming at the top of their lungs.
that said I am also in agreement that we should head over toBaal.
The vast majority of the Nid command structure is there, the Majority of Khorne is there and the Blood Angel's are beginning to buckle. We REALLY can't afford to lose the most valuable warriors in Imperium Nihulus and we most certainly cannot afford to lose the one person I would trust with command of the entire Imperium Nihlus's defense.
Lord Dante must live. Even if he is the last blood angel standing
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He is bankrolling this, he is the impetus behind it, the leader. Banishing the head of a daemonic incursion has proven very useful in weakening the incursion itself.
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+ Khorne may say he doesn't care where the blood flows and all, but Khorne is still a general and a very good one. It knows when a war stops being to its over all benefit and becomes a drain on resources over all.
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Quite a lot of the time. To a lot of frustration, Khorne's bloodthirsters are intelligent and skilled generals most of the time. Ironically its probably why they're so dangerous over all. See Skarbrand for when they're not, he maybe the most dangerous of them in a straight fight, but his lack of a brain makes him very vulnerable.
Absolutely. People need to understand that despite the massive amount of irrationality Chaos injects into your brain, it doesn't outright destroy your intelligence (plot-induced stupidity, on the other hand...). Kharn is incredibly smart, he's also just highly devoted to taking skulls personally. The man would not have survived this long if he wasn't that good.
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Agreed we should go for Baal but I'm not sure if Pandora should personally join in the fight shiton more higher Tyranid forms plus daemons so directing Devas has my vote unless there is good argument.