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A Little Vice (Trans Magical Girl fic)
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Theaxofwar
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I think it's been stated that this latest episode featured a flashback sequence, but there's always room for more
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Something for the top of the reading list, thanks! If I make a thread for "subby femme UwU mild autist trans protagonist" [sic] would anyone be willing to drop recommendations there?
She can't become a magical girl presumably because she's wallowing in depression-envy, which could only be fixed by solving the gender dysphoria, which she can't do the magical girl way because of the depression-envy...
IDK if it's intentional but it mirrors having to jump through hoops to prove you're mentally well enough to make decisions, so you can get hormones that would improve your mental health.
With a skirt? I guess, but that's one way for everyone in the room to get to know you a lot better than they were expecting...
I want him to be rat themed, I really want him to be rat themed...
Lesbian pirate drag king, Ms Steal-yo-girl.
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I wonder if there are other ways to help. The saints only seem to have elemental and combat magic, but they might have some other spells. Michael could, and maybe she didn't mention it due to the layers of denial. How easy is HRT in the state this story happens? C is 18 already, so no dad interference.
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I think the thing with "well C could have done X or Y instead" comments, is that…
Well, could she have? She's depressed, and being abused all the time at home, and even her interactions with her friends that care about her are constantly interspersed with her being attacked by monsters or mind controlled by Mr. Noir or whatever.
I honestly don't think it's realistic to think C even could have rationally examined her actions and options in the midst of all that and all her internalized baggage.
Not that I blame her friends for not being perfectly equipped to help with that, because they're trying and struggling with things too.
If anything, I think if there's a lot of blame to go around here, it's probably to Michael? We haven't seen much of Michael, but I do feel like they're the one who most dropped the ball here in terms of having the broader perspective to maybe help but not actually doing much.
Which I guess is the mascot curse, so it's on brand for the genre.
Well, could she have? She's depressed, and being abused all the time at home, and even her interactions with her friends that care about her are constantly interspersed with her being attacked by monsters or mind controlled by Mr. Noir or whatever.
I honestly don't think it's realistic to think C even could have rationally examined her actions and options in the midst of all that and all her internalized baggage.
Not that I blame her friends for not being perfectly equipped to help with that, because they're trying and struggling with things too.
If anything, I think if there's a lot of blame to go around here, it's probably to Michael? We haven't seen much of Michael, but I do feel like they're the one who most dropped the ball here in terms of having the broader perspective to maybe help but not actually doing much.
Which I guess is the mascot curse, so it's on brand for the genre.
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Agree with this, but I think C read it as "you can't be a magical girl because you are a boy" and that never got corrected or even challenged, really. Michael does seem to take the blame.
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If you don't care about the distinction between their and they're, ey're is fine. Though I question whether it makes sense to call it specifically Avaritia's ideology; she follows it, yes, but it comes from Superbia, and Avaritia's main alteration is to tiptoe around the heteronormative parts.
I half-agree, but...well, C/Invidia is definitely going to change, but Superbia (and to a lesser extent Avaritia) are going to push her in directions that I wouldn't characterize as "moving forward" or "growing".
That's not a coincidence.
(Her TV Tropes page has other relevant details, specifically under the Meaningful Name and Pretentious Pronunciation entries.)
Forget Ida—well, don't forget her, this is a valid point. But also consider Temperance, another trans girl who seems to have transitioned pretty thoroughly after leaving the Abyssal Beasts. Even if we focus on the one issue Glau focuses on, there are obviously solutions.
Nobody knows.
Well, Temperance obviously does, and Michael too, and I expect Ida and Inessa have some idea. But I don't think it's come up in the story yet.
I imagined Invidia wrapping herself in her wings (like a bat), which seems like it would sidestep that issue. It doesn't matter what direction her skirt is hanging, it's hidden behind the wings.With a skirt? I guess, but that's one way for everyone in the room to get to know you a lot better than they were expecting...
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No one knows how Michael managed to get her set up with an apartment or put her in the school system, but most acknowledge that both seem to have happened without difficulty is, at least, a tiny bit worrisome...
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mafia connections. michael's an angel, which means she's got connections with the vatican, and the vatican's in central italy, which is a bit north of southern italy, which is directly adjacent to sicily, and that's where the mafia is from.
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Micheal probably can't go in person to a bank, on account of being a tiny plushie, but she could make phone calls, right?
(If stacked up on a set of books to reach the phone.)
such as a phone call to the don?
See, what's interesting about this is at once a surprisingly apt comparison, and also missing the point in a way that loops around to conveying a whole new point in the negative space.
The emotional affirmation magical power genre at play kinda muddies the whole thing, but being an Angelic Saint isn't therapy, it's a job to fight giant monsters who try to maim people.
Temperance and Inessa push for C to join the team because it seems like it would help C emotionally and/or because they think C genuinely would be good at it, but Ida, and more pressingly, Michael, think the First Tree conflict is a burden the least amount of people should be involved in, and there are very practical reasons you don't give superpowers to someone who is very clearly unwell, especially in C's case:
C spent half a month being mentally sawed at by Noir to be remolded into a Beast ('pushed to become an ideal you're entirely unqualified to match' speaks as much for Luxuria as it does being a Saint), and now more than back in January, C can't be satisfied with "Charlie the Part-Time Magical Person", anything less than a total replacement of everything weak and stupid about C would fall short, and being denied just destroys C.
Taking the stage in the role of an Angelic Saint wouldn't fix the essential problem for C, and assuming so would backfire immensely because, what happens when they win? When the Abyssal Forest is beaten and Michael either takes back the transformation bracelets or there's just nothing to use them for? C would have to find self-worth and the drive to get better independent of being an Angelic Saint anyway, and seeing that and letting that remain unresolved as you gain another fighter would be irresponsible at best.
Even Invidia Bat's advent, despite how climactic it is is just, utter self-loathing—
(—Without giving a lick of gender self-awareness—)
—And even if we take C becoming a Beast as a bad decision that will lead to good decisions, in a way it kinda has to be for the entire story arc of ALV to make sense, like. It's not even really the case Invidia Bat rampaging around on her own accord is the problem.
Because that's not what's gonna happen.
Because what C has never once thought, living the fantasy of being co-conspirators with Avaritia Wolf, them against the world, clashing against the Angelic Saints on the stage like in saturday morning cartoons, is that being a Beast? Means working for Mr. "Superbia Dragon" Noir.
Even now, on the brink of giving into Invidia, C is horrified and repulsed by Noir, by what he did, by the thought anyone close to C let him get close, and these thoughts don't, connect, that becoming Invidia Bat is a release, and joining the Abyssal Forest means being under Superbia's thumb right there besides Avaritia, despite thinking this just a chapter prior:
Like, that's what it always comes back to, "Cool Motive, Still Being Led By An Abusive Egomaniac", unless Invidia immediately flaps out of dodge the moment Avaritia tries to bring eir bestie back to homebase, C's gonna be under the roof of a petty, controlling authority figure right after leaving the FIRST one.
Honestly I'd pay good money to see Flaps Out Of Dodge The Moment The Werewolf Thinks Ey Can Get You Back Into Asshole Castle, but if we could expect C to make good decisions the instant after making terrible ones, we'd be reading an entirely different story.
Legitimately expect C and Lupin's dynamic to take a sharp angle from the Max Level You're The Only One Who Gets Me In The World Buddies staying pattern it's been edging towards, because like. Avaritia has never interacted with C having full awareness of their situations and the ability to actually have a conversation simultaneously:
And uh. They kinda disagree on things.
Big Things.
Like, what keeps coming up, is that Avaritia really, truly believes in the endgoal of the Abyssal Forest. Ey think they'll make the world a better place.
C thinks they'll lose. That they should lose.
This isn't any kind of ideological shift, for C, this is just openly self-destructive imitation, clinging to what C could never have by opposing it, playing Luigi even though you're seething about how much you wanted to play Mario in Mario Kart.
Avaritia is gonna have to convince Invidia they're the good guys to be satisfied and. I don't think ey'll manage.
Because, ultimately, being a Beast is a job to make giant monsters who try to maim people.
I actually do love Michael.
Stupid Jesus Powered Plushie who answers to Women Protection before federal offenses.
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"It's ok to hurt the world that hurt you" is a super seductive point of view. I don't think C's going to have nearly as much trouble with being the bad girl if she thinks it's the only way she gets to be a girl.
It's going to be a tradeoff worth agonizing over, but putting the self above the world seems very Sin, and it looks like Invidia bought in hard.
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Level 1 paper pusher angel
Level 99 forgery archangel
That's how mafia works!
If you need help with your documents or resources, she's got you.
Apartment, school enrollment, hormones? Yes. Get someone a brand new coat from Chicago and a nice vacation napping to the sounds of the sea? Yes. Isn't Michael nice?
Level 99 forgery archangel
That's how mafia works!
If you need help with your documents or resources, she's got you.
Apartment, school enrollment, hormones? Yes. Get someone a brand new coat from Chicago and a nice vacation napping to the sounds of the sea? Yes. Isn't Michael nice?
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Theaxofwar
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I think one of the interesting things to consider is that C has never, at any point, considered that the Saints could lose. I can't help but wonder if, some time in the future, she and Lupin and maybe Superbia manage to actually beat them, and that's the worldview shattering event that forces her to stop pushing her friends away and start helping them.
But I highly doubt that'll happen soon.
But I highly doubt that'll happen soon.
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What, are we playing Six Degrees of Sonny Corleone?
correct. you have ascertained what we are playing.
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I really need more stuff of what is the reaction of the audience in universe
On an unrelated note my brain has now thought up a crossover between blaze blue and just a little Vice because my brain is hooked on the blaze Brew breen rot
The thought of the saint of faith (patient can work)/beast of wrath being possessed by the main villain of all of blazblue: Yuuki Terumi
Can imagine he would take the form of the beast of wrath which serves as an alternative for the saint.
I kind of Imagine the saint as a foil for Ida as they lean way too much into there virtue giving someone who very much does not need a chance one, letting them do things that they really shouldn't ; trying to change someone who will literally never change.
I probably put slightly too much thought into it because I've already thought of how the beast form would look like and the Saints form (a snake obviously)
I imagine the magical girl having powers dealing with healing and purification probably making them super good with dealing with resinners (I don't think that's how it's spelled but that's what I'm going with).
Terumi would in his beast form have the ability to inject Venom that destroys the Target in one way or another in a very agonizing way based off how much he hates them and considering he hates everything made by the master unit (basically God in the blaze blue universe) it does a crap ton of damage.
All of Terumi techniques are based around being just being very agonizing and frustrating trying to get who ever he face very frustrating cuz that's where he succeeds (especially considering how he gains power if he's hated).
Edit: a new updated version of my post for @AlicePresentHell
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This could seriously benefit from punctuation!
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I'm not saying that Michael refused, but that C physically wasn't able to become Kindness because of her Envy issues (which I think is more likely, the seeds/whatever Saints have reacts to what's in you- Lust didn't work for C after all) so she's caught in the Catch-22 of not being able to have what would fix the problem due to having the problem, locking her out of the Magical Girl route.
She has no options that aren't self-destructive on some level and consistent with her characterization- stay in an abusive household with rapidly dwindling career prospects, become a burden and ruin her friends' lives (which is what she thinks will happen if she asks for help), or go to another abusive household but trade her support network for a magical transition.
The reason she was so insistent on staying in said abusive household while pushing away her friends is that in her mind it was the least bad option; she's not able to conceive of the best short-term outcome (ask for help), and isn't able to achieve her ideal outcome.
The funny thing is that at each point she's choosing what she thinks is the kind option, which is whatever stops her being a "burden".
It feels like realistic choices for someone in that state of mind.
The seed is causing chest growth in C, so there are permanent changes out of costume. The magical HRT, at least, isn't rescindable, so she'd be able to switch to hormones after it's over.
IDK why you're quoting so much, I know what you're referencing when you talk about a scene. Seems like a lot of effort?
Spectral Waltz
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Because it's very helpful for those of us who don't instantly know or who like to read over the actual text for ourselves without necessarily needing to open a new tab (and if we do open a new tab we can do it in a single click with the quote instead of trying to hunt down the right passage within a given chapter.)
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I guess some of my assumptions about this story are based on the core assumption that this story will have a happy ending. Or at least, an ending where the protagonist is in a better place than where they started.
I'm also confident that while accepting themselves as Invidia Bat is an important step to halting C's current downward spiral, any improvement while stuck as a beast will be extremely fragile and cannot be solidified until they break free from that.
I don't know how they're going to do it exactly, but it seems like they certainly can with a little bit of luck and a lot of help and care (and maybe an asskicking or two when needed), so I ultimately believe that they will because the alternative would be a tragedy and I don't want this to end as a tragedy.
I'm also confident that while accepting themselves as Invidia Bat is an important step to halting C's current downward spiral, any improvement while stuck as a beast will be extremely fragile and cannot be solidified until they break free from that.
I don't know how they're going to do it exactly, but it seems like they certainly can with a little bit of luck and a lot of help and care (and maybe an asskicking or two when needed), so I ultimately believe that they will because the alternative would be a tragedy and I don't want this to end as a tragedy.
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The knee-bone's connected to the...ankle-bone. The ankle-bone's connected to the...foot-ball. The foot-ball's connected to the...ma-fia.
See, for some tgirls that would be true, but C is as unwilling to admit that she's a girl as she is to let other people get inconvenienced for her own good. If she's awake and conscious of what's going on, she's not going to joyously embrace a chance to throw her classmates under the bus to keep her magic HRT. She can probably be pressured into it, especially if Superbia throws his weight around, but she's not going to immediately embrace Sin because it gives her good things.
Could be worse. My brain has been trying to figure out how a Something Wicked crossover could work. Hampered primarily by the fact that we still haven't seen what Zaiyu and the Estil's invasion plans could look like in practice...