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[x] The Last Stand of Sakura Haruno

[x] Sealing Art: Blazing Chakra Flow. This jutsu formula, applied to your blade, allows you to add fire-natured chakra to your chakra flow at the moment of impact. Future development could allow the true combination of various types of chakra flow.

"I built a gun!"

"What does it do?"

"Shoots Blaze Release Jutsu!"
 
2xMachina said:
Actually, it is Line of Sight. Just see, send chakra cable, pull/push.
It is limited in direction/vector, yes.

But it still means:
All enemy in sight stumbles when taking a step.
All enemies fumble their weapons.
We can fly in any direction there is a surface. Or any direction once we can push.
We can collect Sage Chakra ala Hashirama via standing still, moving by cables only.
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Not only that, quoting @2xMachina
2xMachina said:
Is this.... iron pull? Except for everything? (Props for recognizing this reference)

Wow, the utility.

Say, throw kunai. They dodge and ignore the fallen kunai? They get backstab by it being pulled.
Or say, pull towards trees. We fly upwards.
We can adjust our trajectory in mid-air.
We can knock enemy out of balance by pulling them
We can quickly close with an enemy & lend extra power to our hits by having us fly towards each other

Once we get steel push...
We can fly anywhere.
We can have an ablative shield in the form of spinning kunai(and whatever else) all around us.
Heck, we can maintain a push field to slow down/deflect all projectiles & enemies.
We can push our hits towards the enemy, lending even more power to our strikes.
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And that is only one part of it.

victor janus said:
I agree the dragons have some good points and I prefer it to just uping our single target damage(let alone the fact that we might get it again). but right now both options are good at anti-army and we are splitting our vote. Dragons aren't going to close the distance and with things as they are charka flow will win.
Edit well we could band wagon dragons but people don't seem to want to.
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The problem that I see with Wind Dragon Barrage is that is an awesome jutsu, but nothing more, meanwhile both Chakra Cables and Sealing Art: Blazing Chakra Flow open endless possibilities.

The tactical possibilities and sheer utility that grants us the chakra cables is incredible, and aside from the attack power granted for the Sealing Art: Blazing Chakra Flow we have the chance of actually learning to combine chakra natures, which is incredibly good.

Oon the other hand the Wind Dragon Barrage give us an anti-army jutsu, but almost no possibilities for evolution
UberJJK said:
Hisana already has anti-army techniques:
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This is another reason because in my opinion Wind Dragon Barrage is not as good as the other options, especially when any large enough AOE jutsu can be considered anti army...
 
If the sound four are hitting the town, I would not be surprised if Orochimaru has brought Kimimaro out to fight, so we might need something with a lot of kick to punch through his bone armour.
 
2xMachina said:
Actually, it is Line of Sight. Just see, send chakra cable, pull/push.
It is limited in direction/vector, yes.

But it still means:
All enemy in sight stumbles when taking a step.
All enemies fumble their weapons.
We can fly in any direction there is a surface. Or any direction once we can push.
We can collect Sage Chakra ala Hashirama via standing still, moving by cables only.
We can have swords spinning around us via cables. Pull only works too, with more effort. With push, we get a whirlwind of blades with no effort.
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So, here's my thinking...
Any enemy we could hit with chakra cables are weak enough that just cutting them down is more efficient anyways.
We can already fly. And we don't need a surface in the direction we're flying in to fly in that direction.
Collecting Sage Chakra while moving with cables sounds really useful, but it also sounds like it'd negate our Speed because we're not moving under our own power. (Though i might be wrong about that)
Sword whirlwind sounds needlessly complicated for something that wont actually increase our offense much.

All in all, i don't think chakra cables are much use against upper tier enemies, and we don't have any problems in handling lower tier enemies as it is.

Edit: And what's 'send chakra cable' supposed to mean? Just look at something and a chakra cable 'poof's in from thin air connected to whatever you were looking at? Maybe you don't need to be in physical contact to attach it, maybe you can shoot it instead. But if you need to shoot it people can dodge it. And as a lot of people here have mentioned(while discussing guns and bows) ninja are really fast. The version in Mistborn isn't the same, because there it is a form of telekinesis, they don't have to manually attach something to the metals they use. And because it's a chakra cable rather than shinra tensei type shenanigans, enemies can cut the cables.
 
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charka cables are Omnidirectional
Once we get it to push it might as well be telekinesis. We didn't get it once we should use this chance.
 
Ridiculously Average Guy said:
That still requires us to have the enemy grouped up in a single direction.
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But they still serve its function as Anti Army, kill large groups of enemies with one attack the only thing that the technique adds to what we already have is precision, which is awesome, but I don´t think that is worth to spend one perk choice to get it.

Stasis said:
Edit: And what's 'send chakra cable' supposed to mean? Just look at something and a chakra cable 'poof's in from thin air connected to whatever you were looking at? Maybe you don't need to be in physical contact to attach it, maybe you can shoot it instead. But if you need to shoot it people can dodge it. And as a lot of people here have mentioned(while discussing guns and bows) ninja are really fast. The version in Mistborn isn't the same, because there it is a form of telekinesis, they don't have to manually attach something to the metals they use.
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Then think of at as the Bungee Gum that uses Hisoka in HXH, but with the advantage of being able to push things, which increases the potential of one of the best and more versatile powers of the setting a tenfold...
 
Stasis said:
So, here's my thinking...
1. Any enemy we could hit with chakra cables are weak enough that just cutting them down is more efficient anyways.
2. We can already fly. And we don't need a surface in the direction we're flying in to fly in that direction.
3. Collecting Sage Chakra while moving with cables sounds really useful, but it also sounds like it'd negate our Speed because we're not moving under our own power. (Though i might be wrong about that)
Sword whirlwind sounds needlessly complicated for something that wont actually increase our offense much.

All in all, i don't think chakra cables are much use against upper tier enemies, and we don't have any problems in handling lower tier enemies as it is.
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1. Chakra cables is basically an Army Killer. You don't need to go near and cut them, when you can
a) make them lose their weapons. Or faceplant
b) Shoot them all with Kunai/bullets

Also, we can hit pretty much anyone with chakra cables.
The only ones we can't are
a) People who can see chakra & is fast enough to dodge it
b) People who can sense chakra & dissolve it somehow.
That's a very small subset.

2. Yes, this I agree. But, see. This ability is an Army Killer, AND a Mobility power

3. Sage chakra normally means: speed = 0. Any ability that gives even a small move speed is necessary to use it.

4. Whirlwind of wind blades is a defensive measure. Any incoming projectiles are immediately cut down. Anyone closing on us are also cut down.

So, this power gives Army Killer, Mobility, enables Sage chakra, Defense & Battefield control.
What's not to like?
 
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[X] The God of Shinobi Fights One Final Battle...!

[x] Wind Release: Wind Dragon Barrage. This A-Ranked ninjutsu creates a dozen wind dragons, each capable of following an individual target.
 
Stasis said:
Edit: And what's 'send chakra cable' supposed to mean? Just look at something and a chakra cable 'poof's in from thin air connected to whatever you were looking at? Maybe you don't need to be in physical contact to attach it, maybe you can shoot it instead. But if you need to shoot it people can dodge it. And as a lot of people here have mentioned(while discussing guns and bows) ninja are really fast. The version in Mistborn isn't the same, because there it is a form of telekinesis, they don't have to manually attach something to the metals they use. And because it's a chakra cable rather than shinra tensei type shenanigans, enemies can cut the cables.
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Actually, the fluff in Mistborn, there is a blue line linking us, and whatever metal we are push/pulling.

Can't dodge what you can't see.
Won't dodge what you don't know coming.

Or once our rep is so high, everyone knows our secret technique, they could dodge every second and tire themselves out.
Or dodge a cable to run into another deadly technique.

EDIT: Pretty sure Shinra Tensei works via chakra also. Maybe more a wave pressure than a single cable tho.
But that just means Cable is more precise & more chakra efficient.
 
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I don't see how making an explosion at sword point is useful by any metric. We already seen what somone using explosions can achieve: Deidara never achieved much even with the added ability to stockpille explosions both in number and intensity.
Anything he did can be achieved with explosive notes. Lots of them.
Blasing Chakra flow isn't going to help reach, or even fight at top level.
Chakra Cables on the other hand is, a among all the other usages, able to give Hisana a flat speed and dodge increase (ie: simply pull at the ground in front of you to go foward faster. or to the side to dodge) which is going to always be useful nomatter what powerlevel she's fighting at.

A good exemple of what Utility Chakra Cables can give to Hisana ? That's basically all Pein's Deva Path ever used. It's effective.
 
liberty614 said:
how does Chakra cables let us move and gather Sage mode chakra?
we would have to be creating new cables the entire time
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I think the idea is staying seated in a meditating position while using the cables to move. Sort of like the way a spider's body works, with us a the thorax.

Personally I would prefer a combination of using shadow clones, and storing Natural Energy in a seal.
 
Ayashi said:
I don't see how making an explosion at sword point is useful by any metric. We already seen what somone using explosions can achieve: Deidara never achieved much even with the added ability to stockpille explosions both in number and intensity.
Anything he did can be achieved with explosive notes. Lots of them.
Blasing Chakra flow isn't going to help reach, or even fight at top level.
Chakra Cables on the other hand is, a among all the other usages, able to give Hisana a flat speed and dodge increase (ie: simply pull at the ground in front of you to go foward faster. or to the side to dodge) which is going to always be useful nomatter what powerlevel she's fighting at.

A good exemple of what Utility Chakra Cables can give to Hisana ? That's basically all Pein's Deva Path ever used. It's effective.
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Hmm, you're right. I didn't think if it 1st, but

For those not familiar with Mistborn, Chakra cables are like Deva Path Universal Pull, and Almighty Push after.
 
2xMachina said:
1. Chakra cables is basically an Army Killer. You don't need to go near and cut them, when you can
a) make them lose their weapons. Or faceplant
b) Shoot them all with Kunai/bullets

Also, we can hit pretty much anyone with chakra cables.
The only ones we can't are
a) People who can see chakra & is fast enough to dodge it
b) People who can sense chakra & dissolve it somehow.
That's a very small subset.

2. Yes, this I agree. But, see. This ability is an Army Killer, AND a Mobility power

3. Sage chakra normally means: speed = 0. Any ability that gives even a small move speed is necessary to use it.

4. Whirlwind of wind blades is a defensive measure. Any incoming projectiles are immediately cut down. Anyone closing on us are also cut down.

So, this power gives Army Killer, Mobility, enables Sage chakra & Defense.
What's not to like?
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You're vastly overestimating everything about this. 'Make them loose their weapons'? The majority of ninja don't even use weapons! 'Army Killer'? Chakra Cables are definitely not useless, but it's also definitely not some kind of omnipowerful super ultimate technique like you're assuming it is. I don't even understand what you're talking about with the sage mode stuff. And 'defensive measure'... that's needlessly complicated for something that wont even work very well, and we already have defensive measures. It's called 'Don't be in front of the elemental blast that doesn't give a shit about spinning blades'. Also our previous vote for traits, where we saw Chakra Cables for the first time, the skill Sealing Art: Reactive Chakra Armour, an actual defensive skill, won.

Chakra Cables isn't even close to being telekinesis. First you need to attach cables, which can be both dodged and cut and considering chakra strings aren't invisible i don't see why cables would be.
 
2xMachina said:
Hmm, you're right. I didn't think if it 1st, but

For those not familiar with Mistborn, Chakra cables are like Deva Path Universal Pull, and Almighty Push after.
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This is not at all true. Shinra Tensei can't be dodged/parried/interrupted and it can be used on anything at any time without any setup. None of these are true for Chakra Cables.
 
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You guys are really overstating the Mistborn connection as a reason for taking chakra cables. There, it's telekinesis. Here, it's a physical cable. Sure, you can pull (and eventually push) in any direction, but that doesn't mean you can just ignore all of the limitations of the particular form the power takes here.
 
2xMachina said:
Hmm, you're right. I didn't think if it 1st, but

For those not familiar with Mistborn, Chakra cables are like Deva Path Universal Pull, and Almighty Push after.
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With the limitation that we can only attract or push things that are lighter than the user, but this is what gives them their immense potential for for mobility...

Redshirt Army said:
Obviously, we don't need to move a muscle when our Susanoo is the thing moving us around, so cables are redundant.
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I know this is a Joke, but this is actually workable, we only need to loose one of our best friends in the coming battle, and then the mos OP technique of the whole Naruto, the fucking MS

Ridiculously Average Guy said:
I think the idea is staying seated in a meditating position while using the cables to move. Sort of like the way a spider's body works, with us a the thorax.

Personally I would prefer a combination of using shadow clones, and storing Natural Energy in a seal.
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Well, both clones and storage seals will eventually run dry, this is a way of actually getting Sage Chakra in situ without turning to stone...

Seventeen said:
You guys are really overstating the Mistborn connection as a reason for taking chakra cables. There, it's telekinesis. Here, it's a physical cable. Sure, you can pull (and eventually push) in any direction, but that doesn't mean you can just ignore all of the limitations of the particular form the power takes here.
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Then it is Hisoka´s Bungee Gum, I still think it is worth it though
 
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2xMachina said:
IIRC, threads are created without seals, nor need gestures to direct.
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Fanhunter696 said:
Well, basically there is no need to move not even a muscle when you use the cables, meaning that we could just use our cables to fly without moving our body, meaning we could gather Sage Chakra
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this is fundamentally wrong
Chakra Threads
chakra threads are controlled with the users hands
2xMachina said:
For those not familiar with Mistborn, Chakra cables are like Deva Path Universal Pull, and Almighty Push after.
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this isnt mistborn
 
Stasis said:
You're vastly overestimating everything about this. 'Make them loose their weapons'? The majority of ninja don't even use weapons! 'Army Killer'? Chakra Cables are definitely not useless, but it's also definitely not some kind of omnipowerful super ultimate technique like you're assuming it is. I don't even understand what you're talking about with the sage mode stuff. And 'defensive measure'... that's needlessly complicated for something that wont even work very well, and we already have defensive measures. It's called 'Don't be in front of the elemental blast that doesn't give a shit about spinning blades'. Also our previous vote for traits, where we saw Chakra Cables for the first time, the skill Sealing Art: Reactive Chakra Armour, an actual defensive skill, won.

Chakra Cables isn't even close to being telekinesis. First you need to attach cables, which can be both dodged and cut and considering chakra strings aren't invisible i don't see why cables would be.
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Allow me to retort:
You're vastly overestimating everything about this Blazing Chakra Flow . 'Make them loose their weapons'? It doesn't do anything at all to weapons ! 'Army Killer'? Blazing Chakra Flow is definitely not useless, that is : if you're planing to fight the army one man at a time. It's also definitely not some kind of omnipowerful super ultimate technique like you're assuming it is. :lol

Actually what good is Blazing Chakra Flow for ?
What does it do that A rank Chakra Flow: Razor Wind doesn't already do ?
Does it somehow can't be dodged/parried/interrupted ?
 
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