Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[X] A deep dig. Since the last person who tried to excavate this place was killed and turned odds are good many of its treasures remain and unlike stealing from the properly dead Lydia wouldn't mind in the least if you helped yourself
 
[X] A deep dig. Since the last person who tried to excavate this place was killed and turned odds are good many of its treasures remain and unlike stealing from the properly dead Lydia wouldn't mind in the least if you helped yourself

it's a public safety issue to defuse those tombs. And if dead Pharaohs are here as guards - maybe we should ask them about the solar king?
 
[X] A deep dig. Since the last person who tried to excavate this place was killed and turned odds are good many of its treasures remain and unlike stealing from the properly dead Lydia wouldn't mind in the least if you helped yourself
 
On one hand, Exalts can do what they want, and it's safer for them to do it than for anyone else. On the other hand, this is literally the definition of digging too greedily and too deep.
 
[X] A deep dig. Since the last person who tried to excavate this place was killed and turned odds are good many of its treasures remain and unlike stealing from the properly dead Lydia wouldn't mind in the least if you helped yourself

Let's be thorough. We don't want to leave stuff here that might cause more trouble down the road.
 
[X] A deep dig. Since the last person who tried to excavate this place was killed and turned odds are good many of its treasures remain and unlike stealing from the properly dead Lydia wouldn't mind in the least if you helped yourself
 
A slaughter so complete that even the people performing it are surprised it wasn't against some sort of law.
It likely will be soon, but I expect that we should be able to make a few trillion* to lobby against implementation first.

*Or really enough money that Money stops being money and has to become power or people with power just take it using some pretext or other.
 
The Pentacle and Scepter (●●●●)(Revised)
@DragonParadox you never said anything about this more particularly this part.

is this a possible revision for Pentacle and Scepter? I thought about making a separate charm or artifice along the lines of the elements I added but Pentacle is already so bare-bones and is meant to be about knowledge and power with magic that it felt right to add the modern sorcery effects to it to bring in line with other four dot Charms but if the modern sorcery should be its own charm that also makes sense.
 
[X] A deep dig. Since the last person who tried to excavate this place was killed and turned odds are good many of its treasures remain and unlike stealing from the properly dead Lydia wouldn't mind in the least if you helped yourself

Are we really gonna go grave-robbing and be careful???

For moral and legal purposes Molly must insist that, as this property belongs to an unliving member of the Black Court, it's thus not "grave robbing" in any way, but falls fully under "looting your enemy". :V
 
[X] A deep dig. Since the last person who tried to excavate this place was killed and turned odds are good many of its treasures remain and unlike stealing from the properly dead Lydia wouldn't mind in the least if you helped yourself
 
So, with what we know about Solar-Abyssal shard pair, what are the chances that West shore was the Abyssal's kingdom, and East shore was the Solar's kingdom at some point?

Also, just to be clear - am I guessing right that we are hunting the Black Court elder who tried to orchestrate the kidnapping of the solar shard?
 
Also, just to be clear - am I guessing right that we are hunting the Black Court elder who tried to orchestrate the kidnapping of the solar shard?
Yep.

The Sire of that British archeologist/adventurer that we killed in Vegas after he tried to mess with the Ra-Statue holding the Exaltation.
The one who tried to contest our soul-eating to get his minion back.
 
Once again, Molly is bringing a Queen Mab vibe to the world that nobody likes.

With Mab, if you mess with the Queen and you miss, you know you're gonna spend the next century paranoid only for her to backstab you the moment you let your guard down.

With Molly, you exchange that indefinite dread for a more immediately visceral terror of being hunted down like a dog within the year.
 
So, with what we know about Solar-Abyssal shard pair, what are the chances that West shore was the Abyssal's kingdom, and East shore was the Solar's kingdom at some point?

Also, just to be clear - am I guessing right that we are hunting the Black Court elder who tried to orchestrate the kidnapping of the solar shard?
I don't think we have confirmation that the Abyssal was ever that active, just that the Solar locked their shard away so the Abyssal wouldn't wake up.

I have a hard time seeing how a Solar and Abyssal could cohabitate in the course of this age of the world but leave people so uncertain about what exalts are.
 
I have a hard time seeing how a Solar and Abyssal could cohabitate in the course of this age of the world but leave people so uncertain about what exalts are.
The answer is. as always, Ancient Sorcery. And Splendors. Abyssals have this monstrosity of a charm:
Lies That Tell Themselves (••••)
Carving away parts of her listeners' identity with
her will and her words, the Abyssal may rewrite the
memories of another.
System: Spend 2 Essence while detailing the
subject's new memories and roll Manipulation + Expression,
resisted by the target's Willpower (both at
difficulty 6). The subject's memories can be rewritten
based on the number of successes left after subtracting
the result of the opposed Willpower roll:
• 1 success: The events of a recent scene can be rewritten.
• 2 successes: The events of a recent day can be rewritten.
• 3 successes: A single pivotal memory in the subject's
life can be rewritten. Alternately, entire weeks of
the subject's past can be written so long as they're not
crucial to the substance of her life or identity.
• 4 successes: A major feature of the subject's life
can be rewritten (such as who they're married to,
where they went to school, or whether the Abyssal is a
hated enemy or their childhood friend).
• 5+ successes: The subject can be given an entirely
new history.
Splendors have this as an option:
Memory-Smothering Pall (3 pt. Root Element)
This Element can only be part of a Fascination.
The Splendor embodies the act of forgetting that a particular thing exists, such as "vampires," "laws," "the fact that Clark Kent is Superman," or "pain." It causes anyone it targets to become unable to remember that the specified thing exists. The maximum duration this forgetfulness can last (assuming it doesn't abate because the target fulfilled some condition built into the Splendor) is one day for a 1-2 dot Splendor, one week for a 3-dot Splendor, one month for a 4-dot Splendor, and one year for a 5-dot Splendor.
It's fairly narratively appropriate for an abyssal to be able to make something along the lines of "anyone who drinks from the Nile will forget about myself and my solar counterpart" or something like this.
 
The answer is. as always, Ancient Sorcery. And Splendors. Abyssals have this monstrosity of a charm:

Splendors have this as an option:

It's fairly narratively appropriate for an abyssal to be able to make something along the lines of "anyone who drinks from the Nile will forget about myself and my solar counterpart" or something like this.
I don't think that's enough, we're talking about some very deep marks and very esoteric entities.

Splendors are supposed to just work, but mental effects are the easiest sort to get perfects against relatively speaking. The guys who'd still be alive to tell the tale wouldn't be drinking from the Nile or vulnerable to an effect so straightforward.

Odin, one of the slickest characters in the setting and guy who literally had dragon blooded in his home territory, is still trying to figure out what a celestial is. Hell, the dragon bloods themselves seem to have forgotten a lot of the details.

When the unbroken line of terrestrial descent is having issues remembering the existence of other exalts something really profoundly nuts is going on.

It seems more likely to me that the solar was deployed for Outside reasons, was potentially up for long enough to help civilization recover from the mega-bomb, and then deliberately put themselves back in the box to keep their Abyssal frenemy from getting loose.
 
I don't think that's enough, we're talking about some very deep marks and very esoteric entities.

Splendors are supposed to just work, but mental effects are the easiest sort to get perfects against relatively speaking. The guys who'd still be alive to tell the tale wouldn't be drinking from the Nile or vulnerable to an effect so straightforward.

Odin, one of the slickest characters in the setting and guy who literally had dragon blooded in his home territory, is still trying to figure out what a celestial is. Hell, the dragon bloods themselves seem to have forgotten a lot of the details.

When the unbroken line of terrestrial descent is having issues remembering the existence of other exalts something really profoundly nuts is going on.

It seems more likely to me that the solar was deployed for Outside reasons, was potentially up for long enough to help civilization recover from the mega-bomb, and then deliberately put themselves back in the box to keep their Abyssal frenemy from getting loose.
You have to add Gilgamesh being an infernal lab-grown product (and possibly also exalted himself later on) to the pile of ancient history nonsense. Like, gods he interacted with should still be alive too. And then there are Arthurian knights, and Arthur himself, who is "more exalted" than others (which I am assuming means that he either have a celestial shard, or some other shenanigans happening with him).

My personal guess is that once you go back past recorded history, probably to around the time of the tower of Babel, linear time starts to break down, and multiple pre-histories start to compete with each other. We know that's possible in Exalted - see Time of Cascading Years, if nothing else. So, it might well be that in the history as experienced by Odin, there were no Solar Pharaohs and their Abyssal Whoevers (from mortal enemy to lover, the spectrum is entirely undefined right now).

We know that linear time is not really a thing between at least some Ages of Universe. We know we are in the Fifth Age. We know that Age of Sorrows from E2 is either Second or still the First Age, cosmologically. Wan Xian might be in the Fourth Age, and are still parts of modern human civilization. Hell, Dragonblooded survived the Big Bang somehow. God didn't recreate their exaltations. So, some manner of time f*ckery is going on, no questions about it. Solar Pharaoh being from the 4th or even 3rd Age, and Odin (and others) being a purely Fifth Age being is possible.
 
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It occurs to me that Molly does have stupid build speeds/scale and can exploit her multi-action equivalent charm to make things even worse.

TTC+MHM+EMH+PSP to act on a large area at high speed herself and also use her dice pool through minion summons for additional actions on top of that every round.

Building to last probably isn't in the cards, but we could be very mean about the whole thing.

The most basic level would be putting a huge circle around the place along with some fall back points, but I wonder how much worse we could make it. Maybe have some holographic sorcerer-priests from the Amethyst City carve Molly's caste mark into the ground and bless it in her name?


Lydia's opinion of this place will depend on if there are any ghosts still lingering, normally she would care about the sanctity of a tomb for its own sake... but this one is a temple to a Black Court elder and her opinion of those is unprintable (also in Old Welsh :V ) .
Reading Welsh street signs aloud already sounds like you're casting some serious black magic. I shudder to think of what their actual cursing is like.
I just want to use a good amount of money, our contact with the Chairman of the Federal Reserve (who may or may not have been fired after the Mikaboshi bombshell) and our Sutras to play in the investment market, not too heavily so as not to attract too much attention.

This will increase our money and allow us to create a central parent company for all our businesses, even if we only have two so far, and help us have more influence in the college since we still want to have full control over the location of our Forge of Wonders.

[X] Molly, Tiffany, and Lydia.
I don't think we can get enough money together to stop the crisis, but we might be able to soften it a bit. What'd be more plausible and fun, if perhaps less immediately beneficial to society at large, would be economically victimizing the people who caused it and setting up our guys to crucify those who try anything too stupid in the future.

Investors eat each other all the time. Picking targets who deserve it isn't illegal, it's a public service.
You have to add Gilgamesh being an infernal lab-grown product (and possibly also exalted himself later on) to the pile of ancient history nonsense. Like, gods he interacted with should still be alive too. And then there are Arthurian knights, and Arthur himself, who is "more exalted" than others (which I am assuming means that he either have a celestial shard, or some other shenanigans happening with him).

My personal guess is that once you go back past recorded history, probably to around the time of the tower of Babel, linear time starts to break down, and multiple pre-histories start to compete with each other. We know that's possible in Exalted - see Time of Cascading Years, if nothing else. So, it might well be that in the history as experienced by Odin, there were no Solar Pharaohs and their Abyssal Whoevers (from mortal enemy to lover, the spectrum is entirely undefined right now).

We know that linear time is not really a thing between at least some Ages of Universe. We know we are in the Fifth Age. We know that Age of Sorrows from E2 is either Second or still the First Age, cosmologically. Wan Xian might be in the Fourth Age, and are still parts of modern human civilization. Hell, Dragonblooded survived the Big Bang somehow. God didn't recreate their exaltations. So, some manner of time f*ckery is going on, no questions about it. Solar Pharaoh being from the 4th or even 3rd Age, and Odin (and others) being a purely Fifth Age being is possible.
We don't have full context or certainty on many of those, and in any case not knowing the full story isn't the same as being ignorant something exists.

Take Gilgamesh; being an infernal construct doesn't necessarily mean an infernal was loose when he was alive. We've seen artifacts survive, like the one we got from playing board games at the Mothers' place.

A lot of things could have happened and we don't know enough to take the assumptions you implicitly take as true are actually correct.

Every exalted you add as an active player has to start and then stop in a series of increasingly improbable ways that somehow leave records for us to find but that almost no one else remembers or cares about.

One Solar having a weird shell game is already stretching it. Asking multiple celestials to quietly put their toys away and die so the setting can look like it did when we started playing is farcical in the most literal possible meaning of the word. Time of cascading years or not.
 
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  • [X] A deep dig. Since the last person who tried to excavate this place was killed and turned odds are good many of its treasures remain and unlike stealing from the properly dead Lydia wouldn't mind in the least if you helped yourself
    [X] A shallow dig, just enough to point your Crown at, after all you know the thing you're hunting isn't here
 
Arc 15 Post 42: That Bones Might Linger New
That Bones Might Linger

13th of March 2007 A.D.

An uneven trio of stones rise from the dunes, crooked and wind-worn, like fingers curling inwards to snare whatever is foolish enough to lie in its barren palm. So there you dig, like a bur of brass tunneling deeper and deeper, laying down rings of steel in your wake. The strangest thing is what you don't find, no smallburrowing sand mice, not even bugs or roots. It's all sterile as far as the eye can see and most likely below that too. So far the unforgiving sand and the dry air had been comfortable, almost familiar, even though you've never been in a place like this, but now for the first time you wonder 'Should I just stop breathing air altogether?'

Thankfully you don't have to start spending down your reserves quite this soon and neither does Tiffany having brought rebreathers and oxygen for all three of the company. Putting on yours you motion for the others to do the same. All out powered armor would have taken too long to learn how to use not to mention adamant to a user with no cybernetic implants, but these are sturdy systems meant for exploration in conditions far more hostile than the Sahara.

Finally your your digging head strikes solid... limestone... cold. The feeling shivers up from the tools and into your hands like you'd dipped them in ice water. The stone is smooth here and paler than the sand that had blown in over-top scored with fine likes that curl and twist like veins in marbled flesh seemingly without rhyme or reason.

"The carrion wouldn't really need much in the way of a door would they?" Lydia speculates coldly. "The thinnest crack will do."

"They would if they want to bring anything with," you say, fingers following the lines of the stone until something gives under the pressure, a place to catch your ginger and pull.

With Tiffany's help you open the mouth of the passage only to be greeted with the macabre sight of three skeletons splayed out on the slope beyond. They had clearly died scathing at the door to get out. From the faded waistcoats, buttons still bright with the light now pouring in and shirts as fragile as dried leaf you know these are no bones of ancient builders who had toiled here in the years nameless to history.

"Looks like we found some of Nathanael Cobbler's friends," you call back.

"The lucky ones," Tiffany says, gingerly leaning down to pick out a small gold cross among the bones. "Faithful to the end, escaped after a manner."

"Did they?" Lydia asks, coming close. "This place is too thick with death to tell for sure, but if I let my light shine any of the dead that linger will be drawn to it and these three have no reason to keep whatever secrets their ill timed delve might have revealed."

"On the other hand not everything that can see that has to be friendly," you remind her.

But she isn't convinced, arguing that if something were to attack, better that it be here with the sun at your back than in the depths of this place. An enemy is a kind of clue as well to Lydia's way of looking at things.

"Not all guardians such a place might have would charge the open door like a raging bull," Tiffany adds to the voice of caution. "Some might simply be forewarned to to ambush us further in. Not to mention the ghost light does not burn without fuel."

What do you do about the remains of the past investigators?

[] Take them out and bury them

[] Lydia flares her anima to see if any lingering ghosts want to talk

[] Leave them here for now, you'd deal with them on the way up

[] Write in


OOC: At first I had Tiffany use Shape Flesh to make it so you can just take in masive amouts of oxygen but then I remembered that would cost her all of her faith. You guys might want to up her faith when you level up next.
 
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