Vox Vitae: Warhammer AI quest

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[X] Space Marine: Talk
-[X] Explain who you are, that you're an explorer from what is--by now--a very long dead human state, and you certainly aren't an enemy of the Emperor or plan to become one if you have any say over the matter. You've heard fairly positive things about the Adeptus Astartes though from checking through some archives, and you're willing to discuss some means where you can work out some level of reasonable cooperation--goodness knows everything looks like it's turned into an outright mess since you were forced to take a very long nap.

[X] Anexa: Jack of All knowledge
[X] Cia: Yes
 
[X] Anexa: High Throughput Researcher


[X] Cia: No

[X] Space Marine: Talk (The first question is easy enough. You are Vita, an Explorer from the Golden Age of humanity, who awoke from stasis within the last couple centuries. You are, as you have always been, someone who only wants the best for humanity. As for the God-Emperor...well, you predate the Imperium, and as such haven't been raised to worship Him.)
 
[X] Space Marine: Talk
-[X] Explain who you are, that you're an explorer from what is--by now--a very long dead human state, and you certainly aren't an enemy of the Emperor or plan to become one if you have any say over the matter. You've heard fairly positive things about the Adeptus Astartes though from checking through some archives, and you're willing to discuss some means where you can work out some level of reasonable cooperation--goodness knows everything looks like it's turned into an outright mess since you were forced to take a very long nap.

[X] Anexa: Master of Many Talents
[X] Cia: Yes
 
[X] Space Marine: Talk
-[X] Explain who you are, that you're an explorer from what is--by now--a very long dead human state, and you certainly aren't an enemy of the Emperor or plan to become one if you have any say over the matter. You've heard fairly positive things about the Adeptus Astartes though from checking through some archives, and you're willing to discuss some means where you can work out some level of reasonable cooperation--goodness knows everything looks like it's turned into an outright mess since you were forced to take a very long nap.

Talking still makes just as much sense after a night of sleep.

[X] Anexa: Jack of All knowledge

I'm sticking with Jack of All Knowledge. The passive rolls people are talking about are for a random tech, so we cannot control if the bonus from Master of Many applies to the passive or not. I prefer the consistency of Jack.

[X] Cia: Yes

Simple - Champion get
 
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[X] Space Marine: Talk
-[X] Explain who you are, that you're an explorer from what is--by now--a very long dead human state, and you certainly aren't an enemy of the Emperor or plan to become one if you have any say over the matter. You've heard fairly positive things about the Adeptus Astartes though from checking through some archives, and you're willing to discuss some means where you can work out some level of reasonable cooperation--goodness knows everything looks like it's turned into an outright mess since you were forced to take a very long nap.

[X] Anexa: Jack of All knowledge
[X] Cia: Yes
 
[X] Anexa: Jack of All knowledge

Jack is the best in the long term, is the only talent that helps us right now with getting better foundational research which we dont get again and does not force us to waste as many actions getting more specialities (Look at my comment before for more info). Yes High Throughput Researcher gets us 55 more RP of research but that is 55 RP with less quality. In other words, more bad rolls were we have to redo it and less good success's and crits were we get massive RP discounts from 200-1000RP depending on the research.
 
Alectai said:
Anyway, since it's on topic now, I'm inclined to go with this for the other votes.

[] Anexa: Master of Many Talents

Sure, on the forefront of things, this seems worse, but I looked real close and found out the secret spice that makes this actually really good!

The doubled Specialty pool? That's great, especially since it'll scale over time and there's still two more "Perks" on the table in the long run, which we might be able to use for some other shiny stuff. But the real spice here is that this applies the Specialty Bonus to her Passive rolls

Which means Anexa is chopping away at our Research Backlog with a +10 bonus (Which almost completely eliminates Failure from the table, I would remind you, and gives a modest chance of critting). Even if we don't do research in a given turn. This is more likely to happen than not as the map opens up! Since Exploring is very action intensive but also extremely lucrative when it comes to producing discounts. She also has a 20% chance every time she uses her passive to generate a Bonus Tech and Level Up, which tend to be Extremely powerful, even disregarding the tech discounts that come with it--and the specialties she already has both contain a lot of high RP but very important projects, it's just really handy to have, you know?

Jack of All Knowledge does outpace the numerical bonus, but only applies it to half the number of projects, and does nothing to improve her Passive, so she rolls those straight across. So any turn where we're not doing a Research is going to be one where she's not being super productive. It's great--if you assume that the two Specialties we already have are all we'll ever need, and that we'll be researching in those fields every single turn without fail.

Master of Many Talents--at least--means that if we're doing something that isn't on one of her specialties, she's still got two slots open to add more specialties, This adds up over time, especially since it synergizes with Vita's own passive +20 to research, meaning she's got a roughly 30% chance of unlocking a new specialty if we branch her out into another field. That's really good. It also ensures that if we are playing in Anexa's specialty, the chance of even getting a poor success drops to 5%--while our chance at critting hits 40%. This is very, very good, and very, very consistent, even if it lacks the spike potential of Jack, or the sheer "INCREASE NUMBERS" of Researcher.

And finally.

[] Cia: Yes

Pyromancers are spectacularly good Champions. Which isn't to say a commander would be useless--we'd probably like one down the line to fill one of our 2 remaining slots after our Pilot-bean is decanted and raised. But Pyromancers are very good at being very scary to a lot of things, especially when we can produce Space Marine quality, psi-active Power Armor and Force Equipment on top of that.
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But when are we going to put Anexa on passive actions? Over the last 19 turns, we've only not done research twice on turn 3 and turn 6. For every other turn so far, we've done at least one research action. Anexa isn't low level anymore, where she could level up relatively easily through her passive action. Unless we're using all our RP for dangerous Bongo research, we're always going to be using Anexa's active when we do research, and we're almost always going to be doing research. Jack of All Knowledge is better because we're going to benefit from it nearly every turn.

[X] Space Marine: Talk
-[X] Explain who you are, that you're an explorer from what is--by now--a very long dead human state, and you certainly aren't an enemy of the Emperor or plan to become one if you have any say over the matter. You've heard fairly positive things about the Adeptus Astartes though from checking through some archives, and you're willing to discuss some means where you can work out some level of reasonable cooperation--goodness knows everything looks like it's turned into an outright mess since you were forced to take a very long nap.

[X] Anexa: Jack of All knowledge
[X] Cia: Yes
 
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Alectai said:
[] Cia: Yes

Pyromancers are spectacularly good Champions. Which isn't to say a commander would be useless--we'd probably like one down the line to fill one of our 2 remaining slots after our Pilot-bean is decanted and raised. But Pyromancers are very good at being very scary to a lot of things, especially when we can produce Space Marine quality, psi-active Power Armor and Force Equipment on top of that.
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Oh, making our own hobo Gray Knights, I see.

You paint such an appealing image, now I want Cia to lead a squad of recruited psykers trained up to become Gray Knight quality like that all equipped in power armor with Force weapons. I'll be one heck of a force multiplier we keep up our sleeve whenever we need it lol.

Edit: Especially with all the talk of researching teleportation lately. Heck of a strike force.
 
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[X] Space Marine: Talk
-[X] Explain who you are, that you're an explorer from what is--by now--a very long dead human state, and you certainly aren't an enemy of the Emperor or plan to become one if you have any say over the matter. You've heard fairly positive things about the Adeptus Astartes though from checking through some archives, and you're willing to discuss some means where you can work out some level of reasonable cooperation--goodness knows everything looks like it's turned into an outright mess since you were forced to take a very long nap.

[X] Anexa: Jack of All knowledge
[X] Cia: Yes
 
[X] Space Marine: Talk
-[X] Explain who you are, that you're an explorer from what is--by now--a very long dead human state, and you certainly aren't an enemy of the Emperor or plan to become one if you have any say over the matter. You've heard fairly positive things about the Adeptus Astartes though from checking through some archives, and you're willing to discuss some means where you can work out some level of reasonable cooperation--goodness knows everything looks like it's turned into an outright mess since you were forced to take a very long nap.

[X] Anexa: Jack of All knowledge
[X] Cia: Yes
 
[X] Space Marine: Talk
-[X] Use Vita's green-haired avatar
-[X] I am an explorer who came out of stasis.
-[X] I am only partially familiar with the Imperium and the Emperor.
-[X] I want to make friends and cooperate against mutual threats.
-[X] I do not claim ownership of Denva, but I have been working with its inhabitants for their benefit and ours, and I will protect it.

[X] Anexa: Jack of All knowledge

[X] Cia: Yes
 
Derpmind said:
But when are we going to put Anexa on passive actions? Over the last 19 turns, we've only not done research twice on turn 3 and turn 6. For every other turn so far, we've done at least one research action. Anexa isn't low level anymore, where she could level up relatively easily through her passive action. Unless we're using all our RP for dangerous Bongo research, we're always going to be using Anexa's active when we do research, and we're almost always going to be doing research. Jack of All Knowledge is better because we're going to benefit from it nearly every turn.
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Well, we are going to be soon exploring, and that is going to be most likely greatly shifting how we spend our actions. Explore/Diplomacy -actions, at the very least, are going to be much more common, as will Order actions as we run into hostiles (which is guaranteed considering the setting). So Anexa being often on a more independent research duty seems quite likely to me, at least.
 
meianmaru said:
Well, we are going to be soon exploring, and that is going to be most likely greatly shifting how we spend our actions. Explore/Diplomacy -actions, at the very least, are going to be much more common, as will Order actions as we run into hostiles (which is guaranteed considering the setting). So Anexa being often on a more independent research duty seems quite likely to me, at least.
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On the other hand construction actions are going to be much less common since we will not be trying to build up a ship.
 
DragonParadox said:
On the other hand construction actions are going to be much less common since we will not be trying to build up a ship.
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Hmmm, yeah it is likely. But if we want to build even something not requiring literally tens of thousands of points of BP, spinning up industry in the new location is still going to be taking time, even if not to the amounts we had to do here in Denva. And I don't think we will be spending +20 turns at every single new location either.

So I think my point still stands. Prepare for Anexa to be on her passive action more often than before.
 
[X] Space Marine: Talk
-[X] Use Vita's green-haired avatar
-[X] I am an explorer who came out of stasis.
-[X] I am only partially familiar with the Imperium and the Emperor.
-[X] I want to make friends and cooperate against mutual threats.
-[X] I do not claim ownership of Denva, but I have been working with its inhabitants for their benefit and ours, and I will protect it.

[X] Anexa: Jack of All knowledge

[X] Cia: No
 
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[X] Space Marine: Talk
-[X] Explain who you are, that you're an explorer from what is--by now--a very long dead human state, and you certainly aren't an enemy of the Emperor or plan to become one if you have any say over the matter. You've heard fairly positive things about the Adeptus Astartes though from checking through some archives, and you're willing to discuss some means where you can work out some level of reasonable cooperation--goodness knows everything looks like it's turned into an outright mess since you were forced to take a very long nap.

[X] Anexa: Jack of All knowledge
[X] Cia: Yes
 
[X] Space Marine: Talk
-[X] Pretend to be an Explorator Magos, establishing a foothold of defense at this world and possessing an archaeotech ship. We have not been in contact with the Imperium since well before the Great Rift.
 
I dislike the current direction of the vote. It's so bland and focused on what we do or don'g reveal, it's utterly divorced from any personality.

[X] Space Marine: Talk
-[x] The first question is easy enough. You are Vita, an Explorer from the Golden Age of humanity, who awoke from stasis within the last couple centuries. You are, as you have always been, someone who only wants the best for humanity. As for the God-Emperor...well, you predate the Imperium, and as such haven't been raised to worship Him, but...you have learned of the Immaterium since you awoke, of the Enemies of Man. You believe the God-Emperor is a net benefit to mankind. But you're still figuring out exactly where you stand on the Imperial Creed itself.
 
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[X] Space Marine: Talk
-[X] Use Vita's green-haired avatar
-[X] I am an explorer who came out of stasis.
-[X] I am only partially familiar with the Imperium and the Emperor.
-[X] I want to make friends and cooperate against mutual threats.
-[X] I do not claim ownership of Denva, but I have been working with its inhabitants for their benefit and ours, and I will protect it.

[x] Anexa: Master of Many Talents
 
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meianmaru said:
Hmmm, yeah it is likely. But if we want to build even something not requiring literally tens of thousands of points of BP, spinning up industry in the new location is still going to be taking time, even if not to the amounts we had to do here in Denva. And I don't think we will be spending +20 turns at every single new location either.
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I agree that we wont be spending 20+ turns in the same system again. I can see two broad paths forward. One, we make progressively larger loops out from Denva but keep returning here as a home base. Two, we head off on a grand adventure to find treasure planet X and are gone for over 20 turns.

I think path one is far more likely, especially in the short term. I think our flagships industry will be enough for any short term needs, the rest we can build at Denva.

Eventually I would like to get some factory ships, but that is pretty far down the road as I currently see it.

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I would like this to be exploration quest like promised, just set course for "Second star to the right and straight on till morning".
 
Picio said:
I would like this to be exploration quest like promised, just set course for "Second star to the right and straight on till morning".
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There is still something to be said about upgrading our ship every now and then, and doings so in a friendly star system with established industry that is compatible with our tech-base. Or you know, just building a completely new one.

But anyway, there is one long-term research goal for a tech that seems like it could be extremely useful if we want to make returning to previous locations faster. That being, of course, if it works like I think it does.
Neablis said:
-[] Immaterium Investigations (200 RP) The Warp. The Empyrean. Many names for something best described by poetry. It it a place? An idea? A dimension? A shared dream of all sapient beings that's somehow impressed itself onto reality? Probably all of the above. The important question is - how do you interface with it? Can you get reproducible data out of something so - insane? (Likely discounts other research related to psychic phenomena, and be a prerequisite for many more advanced techs. Unlocks further warp-based research including improved teleportation that may eventually lead to warp portals, better sensors for warp phenomena, and potential demonology).
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If we can make warp portals that work on interstellar distances, I think that any return trips to locations where we establish one would suddenly become a lot less time consuming. Again, if it works like I'm assuming it does. Also, it would give the Navigators a third reason to kill us and everything we've built so far, if they ever find about the first two. But in the case of the portals, much more visible obviously.
 
meianmaru said:
Well, we are going to be soon exploring, and that is going to be most likely greatly shifting how we spend our actions. Explore/Diplomacy -actions, at the very least, are going to be much more common, as will Order actions as we run into hostiles (which is guaranteed considering the setting). So Anexa being often on a more independent research duty seems quite likely to me, at least.
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I disagree. With four actions to use each turn, we've always been able to make room for research. And both exploration and diplomacy are often going to see us find new problems that research can help with. (And new cool stuff that we need to research to use.)
 
DragonParadox said:
Well they are speaking Gothic. I don't think it has a neutral way to say 'alien'.
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I guess Xenos said with a soft s "zee-no" is the neutral way. As in "We should listen to what that Xenos (Zee-no) has to say."

While hard S and keeping your teeth firmly jammed together. "Zee-noss" it is meant to be an insult. "Purge the Xenos(Zee-Noss) filth."

try it. Say Xenos without putting your teeth together, and then with your teeth firmly against each other as if saying the word is painful.
 
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[x] -[X] Space Marine: Talk
-- [x] Explain who you are, that you're an explorer from what is--by now--a very long dead human state, and you certainly aren't an enemy of the Emperor or plan to become one if you have any say over the matter. You've heard fairly positive things about the Adeptus Astartes though from checking through some archives, and you're willing to discuss some means where you can work out some level of reasonable cooperation--goodness knows everything looks like it's turned into an outright mess since you were forced to take a very long nap.
[x] Anexa: Master of Many Talents
[x] Cia: No
 
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