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Don't know what that has to do with learning essence in a timely manner.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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[X]Plan From Hells Heart
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I am just worried that bringing them close might turn out to be a mistake. I know it's our go-to strategy to make swording easier, but it feels like a trap this time.
There are three reasons I want to bring them close:
1) They themselves are not approaching. The Hollow Men positioned themselves at the very edge of our power, but still within it. It's likely so they either maintain a connection to the Labyrinth to use its power, or have an easier way to escape. In any case, it indicates that they don't consider closing in as a winning strategy. This is actually an important point - I am fairly sure Hollow Man is not confident about defeating us at all. I am fairly sure that his masters, if they are in communication with him, are not confident at all, since they should know what exalts are capable of.
So, to summarize - Hollow Man chose long range, so it follows that denying him that choice is a good option.
2) To cut them off from the labyrinth. During Harry's trial, Hollow Man was directly involved and administered personalized trials. It's possible that without him, the trials are simpler, or non-active at all. And while it's possible that he'll be remote operating it, I am betting that it's harder to do so than controlling the labyrinth while near / within it. So, pull him into our domain, and away from the labyrinth.
3) The synergy. Lydia with Earth, and us with Heavens acting together, aided by the flames of mortal magic - it's a powerful symbolic thing, and, even if it's not mechanically relevant (and I'm not sure it isn't), it makes for a great story, I think.
Oh, and yes, swording him becomes easier when he's close.
I know that I have a tendency to go for broke, but in this particular case, 1 mote of essence grants us an additional and powerful tool which we should use. Yes, we only have 2 motes remaining, with the last likely going to Melee excellency, but I think it's worth it.
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I have no confidence in anything. But at least dp is less likely to add an interlude if the votes more uneven.
[X] Yog
[X] Yog
If you look at the vote there's an actual reason for it, the problem is that I thought we could make light with out Shintai when we actually can't do so the way I intended to. The point was to abuse the interaction of the two space warping effects to create a visible beacon in the labyrinth, but yes without the light it's about as useful as a burned out street lamp.
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say once shits mostly settled but isn't quite finished should we get some dirty stuff to regain essence for some hours and then go out to do more shit after like 6 hours or something? Because with so many crown focuses available we can find those who got away and discover what plans are still ongoing or likely to continue with so many enemies dead or are we likely to go more passive and just stop for the day? Cause I feel being passive is some level of mistake.
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However that would mean theres another Correspondence 5, high-Arete Nephandus walking around that we havent heard a peep about(Correspondence 5, because you need Spheres that high to produce this sort of twisted geometry).
Which seems....implausible IMO.
And yeah, fair.
Doesnt have to be that particular spell. But I am pretty sure he has something.
He wouldnt have lived to see his third millenium without both competence and paranoia.
This is a Correspondence 5, Life 4/5 archwizard. He can teleport. He has already teleported in this scene, going from the center of the Labyrinth to the borders of our reality marble 4 miles away. If you try to grapple any of his bodies and he doesnt beat the roll, that body will use its actions to teleport again, or be teleported by another body.
The only way you drag him closer is if he allows it.
Possible.
However that would mean theres another Correspondence 5, high-Arete Nephandus walking around that we havent heard a peep about(Correspondence 5, because you need Spheres that high to produce this sort of twisted geometry).
Which seems....implausible IMO.
And yeah, fair.
Doesnt have to be that particular spell. But I am pretty sure he has something.
He wouldnt have lived to see his third millenium without both competence and paranoia.
Not just that.
This is a Correspondence 5, Life 4/5 archwizard. He can teleport. He has already teleported in this scene, going from the center of the Labyrinth to the borders of our reality marble 4 miles away. If you try to grapple any of his bodies and he doesnt beat the roll, that body will use its actions to teleport again, or be teleported by another body.
The only way you drag him closer is if he allows it.
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I'm not saying you are particularly likely to be wrong in this case.
Probably was the Hollow Man, or maybe this is some corruption of a natural Cairn or something a Walker build at some point.
Just trying to counteract a general tendency to overhype the current bad guy.
It should be noted that the reason the Hollow Man here is even attacking directly is that he failed a willpower vs Manipulation Intimidation, otherwise known as being dissed by an Exalt. Not to say that he does not have some way out, but he is most likely not working on maximum paranoia right now, more like 9/10.
Some comments while I can.
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The leading vote does not work. For multiple reasons.
1) You cannot grapple multiple resisting people simultaneously. This fact alone breaks that plan.
Molly does not have Extra Actions. She can only grab one body at a time.
There are 5x bodies remaining, each with their own actions.
And like I have pointed out before, this dude has already teleported in this scene.
He will just teleport again.
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2) MHM when used to grapple is Molly rolling Intelligence 5 + Occult 5/Melee 5 + Without Honor 2 + Stunt 2.
14 dice.
The opposition resists with Strength or Dexterity + Brawl.
The Hollow Man is a Life 4/5 archwizard to pull the multiple body trick. Think Listens To Wind, only better.
You can augment yourself with Life alone at Life 3, and thats not counting any Investments his masters gave him.
His physical attributes are going to be as maxed out as Tiffany's, if not Sophia, and he hails from ancient Rome, when nobility invariably got military training for a while.
You do NOT want to grapple him; he's going to be rolling 10 dice at a minimum, and probably higher.
Without an Excellency, it will probably fail just on physical brawn alone, and we dont have the Essence to burn on Excellencies.
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3) Further more, the fellow and his dopplegangers are four miles away.
FOUR. MILES.
MHM does not move things instantly.
At best, the charm can calibrate to your own movement speed, which still means that at a movement speed of 88 yards/second, it is going to take 80 seconds to drag one body from 4 miles away to swording range.
Thats 27 combat turns when Molly cant do anything besides drag 1x body, while the other 4x bodies get to act.
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Guys... you cannot use MHM more than one, each grapple is an attack.
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Keep in mind that most spells are measured in Rounds, or for the Scene.
He is 4 miles away, so it's not too likely he buffed his physical strength for this.
A body being dragged around still means at least it can't act as well as normally.
Ebenezer and Harry have just proven that drag-and-burn is a working strategy here, so even if we are less effective than them, due to range-limits, we are not useless.
Dragging him close enough for Lydia and friends to attack him is also a good step, before he gets in range of our sword.
Ok, so, technical questions:
1) Is our Occult excellency still running? We activated it when counterspelling the veil breaker.
2) Is Hollow Man naked? I.e. can we use objects on his body to yank him closer to us (if nothing else, it should distract him)?
3) Does attacking him fall under TLF?
Multiple actions, not extra actions. Those are separate:
We already have an occult excellency running. It's almost certainly the last turn we have it, but we should still have it.
Nah.
Better Body rotes are permanent set ups, where you give yourself buffs for walking around with Life or Entropy or Prime; you can give yourself extra HP, or Attribute dots, or the equivalent of physical fomor powers like regen. In WoD the cap on that is permanent Paradox, but no Paradox in the Dresdenverse, not that the Hollow Man lives on Earth anyway.
And thats not counting Nephandic Investments.
Nothing in being dragged prevents a body from casting using Arete or activating an Investment.
Grappling someone for a minute twenty seconds while they are free to cast means Bad Things for you if they are a halfway competent wizard.
No they didnt.
Ebenezar tossed the body into the air to disorient him and give Harry a clear shot. He didnt try to move the body towards us because that would have been spectacularly ill-advised.
And you will not see him do it again, because as Harry said in Changes, you do not repeat the same trick in a magical duel.
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- No, it ran out during the following conversation
- He is dressed in robes, you can pull on those, but if you want to seriously drag him that is also a grapple
- It does not, though you are at -2 now from King and Kingdom and BSM.
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-2.
King and Kingdom 1, BSM 1.
And apropos of nothing, Multiple Actions cannot be used to attack.
Its to allow you to be able to attack and do other things in the same turn.
Only Extra Actions allow you to take multiple attacks in the same turn, like grappling multiple people.
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Oops, sorry mystype. It is indeed 2.