Hermes King
Hack Writer in the making
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[X] IRS - Part 2 VA
The Long Founding (Warhammer 40k)
- Thread starter undead frog
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Fight Club 20
1# You do not talk about Fight Club
- Location
- North Carolina
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- He/Him
[X] Plan: Fuck it democracy time
Not enough Democracy! Come on people! Lorgar boys deserve some love! And the Galaxy deserves Democracy!
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Well, I will say, let's hope it won't turn into shit-show. Btw, what would be Lorgal's legendary trait? His charisma. Btw, the chapter will be worshipping that Goddess of Wisdom, and knowing those boys? Well...quite possibly they will finishing manifesting minor Goddess who while a god, she won't be a gigantic player given Undead wants canon be pretty much the same...additionally, if plan with Athens' expy world wins...they will be close to Golden Sons and Steel Champions.
Edit: That reminds me if we get more chaplains for Keepers of Truth, trauma that would they inflict on Eccleriarchy or Chaos Astartes would create a warp being.
Edit: That reminds me if we get more chaplains for Keepers of Truth, trauma that would they inflict on Eccleriarchy or Chaos Astartes would create a warp being.
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[X] IRS - Part 2 VA
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Arsene Lupin
I Am The Pillager Of Twilight
- Location
- The Sea of Souls
[X] Plan: Fuck it democracy time.
[X] Plan: Covert Revolutionary Operations Wing
[X] Plan: Covert Revolutionary Operations Wing
Ekzentric Lohner
I miss Wildstar...
I figure Raven Guard, being sneaky and good at guerilla warfare, would be the best at either countering or helping a rebellion, depending on whether or not it's justified.
Set on the democracy planet so they won't assume rulers deserve to rule. Add political training to figure out when they can get away with helping popular rebellions, either by helping rebels directly or by publicly scapegoating and then executing the right corrupt/incompetant nobles or administrators in order to deflate revolutionary sentiment. Then add counterintelligence so they can figure out when the rebels are being puppeted by chaos or genestealers or whatever so they can expose it.
I figure that's the approach most likely to get away with not just violently suppressing every rebellion.
Reposting my plan, since I posted before the moratorium was in place:
[X] Plan: Covert Revolutionary Operations Wing
-[X] The Raven Guard: The Gene-Seed belonging to the Sons of Corvus Corax no longer has a Mucranoid or Betcher's Gland, resulting in the lack of the acidic spit and the loss of the ability to generate an outer coating to protect the body against extreme environments such as the void of space, and causes a cosmetic mutation in the form of unnaturally pale skin... but the Raven Guard, despite their crippled numbers after Istvaan III, are a worthy lineage as any other. They are specialists in stealth warfare, and are more capable in guerilla war than any other.
-[X] Atherena: A planet that followed a democratic government, and worshiped a local goddess of wisdom prior to the Great Crusade. Oddly enough, it seemingly spontaneously secularized very shortly before the Great Crusade arrived in its orbit. Some fear democracies are too vulnerable to Chaos's corruptive effects, but considering they made it through the Heresy you don't think that's much of a concern here. (Segmentum Solar).
--[X]1 Charges of Adaptive Gene-Seed.
--[X]1 Charges of Potent Gene-Seed.
Set on the democracy planet so they won't assume rulers deserve to rule. Add political training to figure out when they can get away with helping popular rebellions, either by helping rebels directly or by publicly scapegoating and then executing the right corrupt/incompetant nobles or administrators in order to deflate revolutionary sentiment. Then add counterintelligence so they can figure out when the rebels are being puppeted by chaos or genestealers or whatever so they can expose it.
I figure that's the approach most likely to get away with not just violently suppressing every rebellion.
Reposting my plan, since I posted before the moratorium was in place:
[X] Plan: Covert Revolutionary Operations Wing
-[X] The Raven Guard: The Gene-Seed belonging to the Sons of Corvus Corax no longer has a Mucranoid or Betcher's Gland, resulting in the lack of the acidic spit and the loss of the ability to generate an outer coating to protect the body against extreme environments such as the void of space, and causes a cosmetic mutation in the form of unnaturally pale skin... but the Raven Guard, despite their crippled numbers after Istvaan III, are a worthy lineage as any other. They are specialists in stealth warfare, and are more capable in guerilla war than any other.
-[X] Atherena: A planet that followed a democratic government, and worshiped a local goddess of wisdom prior to the Great Crusade. Oddly enough, it seemingly spontaneously secularized very shortly before the Great Crusade arrived in its orbit. Some fear democracies are too vulnerable to Chaos's corruptive effects, but considering they made it through the Heresy you don't think that's much of a concern here. (Segmentum Solar).
--[X]1 Charges of Adaptive Gene-Seed.
--[X]1 Charges of Potent Gene-Seed.
- Location
- Someplace USA
No it really doesn't, democracy just doesn't work in 40k cause it's a deeply pessimistic seting with lots of corrupting infuence.
We do not want a chapter to fail and making one about democracy memes while ignoring setting realities is how you make a chapter that fails.
We already have keepers of truth who created their own territory and fought a civil war against ecclesiary,
If were talking about Love give the Ultramarines some isntead of just going with Lineages weve already used before.
Ultramarines are exceptionally suited for the political training that IRS needs.
- Location
- Someplace USA
[X] Plan: He's Right Behind Me, Isn't He?
[X] IRS - Part 2 VB
[X] IRS - Part 2 VA
[X] IRS - Part 2 VB
[X] IRS - Part 2 VA
[X] IRS - Part 2 VB
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They wouldn't. The planet became secular during the Great Crusade. Her cult doesn't exists and considering the Ecclesiarchy now officialy exists, Grimm mentions in one of previous updates that Shrine Worlds are becoming a thing, and how close the planet is to Terra, the planet probably worship Emperor. Perhaps as a God of Wisdom and Law or some other obscure variation of the Imperial Cult, but it would still be Emperor worship regardless.
I already answered that. Spreading democracy across Imperium can result in all sorts of political debacles, I don't deny that, but corruption? The planet very description denies that democracy is easily influenced by Chaos.
Keepers of Truth are Ultramarines mixed with a bit of Lorgar. Not pure Word Bearers. Also, by you're logic we already used Ultramarines, so might as well use Word Bearers again.
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I guess there is chance there is still worship of her given how quickly it vanished.
BobTheNinja
Sword of Possibility
- Location
- Multiverse Sector Texas
[X] Plan: Covert Revolutionary Operations Wing
[X] Plan Ravens of Rhodes
[X] IRS - Part 2 VA
[X] Plan Ravens of Rhodes
[X] IRS - Part 2 VA
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[X] IRS - Part 2 VB
- Location
- Someplace USA
The important bit in the post was the pessimistic setting. Everything in 40k pushed towards it's worst forms with things doing their damndest to get them to those worst selves
Democracy is not a better option in this setting because it will often be bastardized into a hellhole as bad as what you want it to replace. It being a feature of the world is fine and dandy but actively trying to export it is going to get slapped by the powers that be since the Imperium is fundamental an ABSOLUTE monarchy.
Especially if people want the chapter to actively cause democratic rebellions which is something they will get them declared rogue or outright traitors for.
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I won't be surprised if their command structure will be much more different given democratic feel, with possibility that every member can vote to choose.
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You have made three errors in this sentence.
First: Frog did not write that addition to the planet's description. I did.
Second: That is not a Word of God (or Word of Saint Paul, I suppose). It is Grimm's in universe opinion.
Third: Grimm was not saying he thinks "democracy is vulnerable to Chaos" is false. He believes it is false for this specific planet, because said planet managed to remain sane during the Heresy.