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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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"We of Quakestone are not only weak of arm but bereft of honesty and shorn of spirit, is THAT what you are SAYING-"

"Certainly not," prince Laequalys cut in. "Forgive the emissary, his Khazalid is imperfect- he meant damage, not injury. Several barrels of beer were smashed during the melee, were they not? He wishes to arrange for the provision of replacement barrels, so the men and women of Quakestone will not go thirsty."

"Ah!" The thane's arms had been raised above his head in wild gesticulation, but now he lamely let them fall to his sides; his train of thought appeared to have been entirely derailed. "Oh. My mistake. The barrels, you say? It is true a few of them were broken- I would not have brought the matter up, because some limited property damage is only to be expected, in the course of a fair fight-"

Whatever you're paying Laequalys, it's not enough.
 
[X] [Khazagar:] Allow the Guild to host their contest but do not work with them.

Doing this for the Dragon Gronti is a pain in the ass, because we've spent four years irl thinking over what could work and the four previous Gronti that have been made never comboed, and so its been a disappointing four years. Furthermore, and most importantly, if the Body does not have a Combo then it can't join the rest of the Dragon's equipment Set.

And this thing has a Set planned when I came up with the design more than two years ago; its equipment is designed to give it physical and magical abilities like a Storm Wyrm. If its Body cannot join that Set it will be weaker than it could be, just point blank. This combo works fine, and its going to have busted Reagents, a cracked Hammer working on it, and a Storm of Magic dumped on it.

(Gronti are fun because their Bodies can join a Set, as a sixth Set piece)

And a note, the Runes are easy, and the first thing we will be doing. If it takes multiple points of Progress to complete it, the first points of Progress will be covering the inscription of the Runes.

So we can just start the build during a Storm of Magic and then finish it on the two turns after that. That way the Runes get a Storm of Magic bonus, and we can have lot more flex in terms of planning it. So we don't need to spend any ap on the Dragon until a Storm comes - and its best to wait until a Storm comes to get started on part 2. Gives us more time to do stuff like The Soul, as you said above.
I took it to mean starting next turn it'll be like Khaz where we vote on how to build the facilities to make the dragon and then use favor for Drakk to actually build the thing for us. The last step would be inscribing the runes
 
[X] [Khazagar:] Allow the Guild to host their contest but do not work with them.
 
[X] [Khazagar:] Allow the Guild to host their contest but do not work with them.


I took it to mean starting next turn it'll be like Khaz where we vote on how to build the facilities to make the dragon and then use favor for Drakk to actually build the thing for us. The last step would be inscribing the runes
Could be a thing? However it goes though I'm confident Soul will let us inscribe the Runes in a Storm.
 
[X] [Khazagar:] Allow the Guild to host their contest but do not work with them.
 
[X] [Khazagar:] Collaborate with the Metalsmiths Guild

also can @soulcake can I put a writein to collaborate with engineer guild as well as metalsmith guild?

Why do I what this because we pick fuck it we ball in heir vote and I think that with such a important vote I think that snorre would act definitely than last vote
 
[X] [Khazagar:] Allow the Guild to host their contest but do not work with them.
 
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