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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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Yog said:
I compared Sanctuary to neurons, not Molly's body, which is the skull jn that metaphor.

The way I see it is Charity having a breakdown about Molly being turned into some alien thing, and the Molly in front of her not actually being Molly, but some sort of puppet or shadow, a facsimile of her daughter instead of the daughter herself. We need to make ourselves more approachable, and to reframe the weirdness. To make it clear that Molly-as-human is Molly, and she's not disappearing anywhere. The Sanctuary visit was meant to show that Molly as Sanctuary is also open to Charity, that we are not distancing ourselves from her.
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I get with your going for and thank you for the clarification about what you were comparing Sanctuary to but you do understand that that completely affirms her fear of us being inhuman right. Comparing an entire planet to the neurons in your head means that you are being with a planet for a brain. It does nothing to soothe her for lack of a better word. Yeah what you can see of me is essentially a skin cell on my fingertip it is still me with all of my thoughts feelings and loves and emotions and motivations but my true self is the size of a small planet. The gaps between the totality of my existence and yours is the difference between your existence and the moons.

I was saying that your explanation's a bit too clinical or I felt it was a bit too clinical it doesn't really address the emotional problem she's having. That distance that she's feeling of I cannot see you is not addressed by essentially saying yeah I'm the size of a small planet you are seeing essentially a complete terminal that has all of the information necessary for me to interface with you properly but it's less than a tenth of a tenth of anything that I actually am. For some reason I don't think that would soothe her in any way.

Let me put it another way as I don't think I've demonstrate my point super well. It feels like charity needs a reaffirmation of our Humanity not an explanation of what we actually are at this moment whether that be Molly as a terminal for the soul that is her world or Molly The Infernal exalted she wants Molly her daughter Margaret Katherine Amanda Carpenter. Explaining a little bit about the phenomenon is fine and necessary but going in depth is likely to lose her and kind of affirm what she's fearing.
 
[X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
-[X] Mom, you can see me just fine. Unless you mean to say I've never seen you, I don't know the young woman who fell into the wrong crowd and got kidnapped by a dragon does that mean I've never seen you? I don't know who dad was before he picked up the sword does that mean I've never seen him? Everyone shows a different face in different situations this is I will admit considerably more magical than that but it's the same phenomenon the face you show to me is different from the one you show to leech, the face you show to Harry is different from the one you show to Harry and that's okay. To say you cannot see me now is to say you've never seen me. Even if some of the features that you cannot see as before are now geographical rather then just emotional.
 
Degorium said:
Before anyone says anything it says it in the book that martial arts of the exalted style are just lost not impossible not anything like that they're just lost and the dragonblooded aren't the right people to find them because they experiment with putting their Elemental Essence into fighting and they discover a lot of fearsome charms that way but it's not how you make exalted martial arts. I started converting these when I thought the Well was going to be a Proving ground for awakened Essence so you know the only couple days old but I think they're pretty good even if it's only two styles. Well before any mention of system changes but well that's a fair way off and I'm posting them anyway cuz I already made them.

Martial Arts

Single Point Shining Into the Void

Gathering Light Concentration (●)
The clashing steel and ferocious blows of the swordsman's enemies do not disrupt her focus—rather, she welcomes them, gleaning the weaknesses of each foe's fighting style
from their offense.
System: Spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm for the rest of the scene. Reflexively roll Willpower (difficulty 8) to the successes on this willpower roll dictate how many can be converted from the enemy. After successfully parrying an attack, the stylist can use Gathering Light Concentration to turn the opponent's successes on their hit roll into lowering the difficulty to hit in their next attack against that target if that would lower that difficulty by more than 3 add dice to the attack roll instead.

Shining Point In The Void Form (●●)
Sheathing her blade for a brief moment, the swordsman centers her mind and Essence. As she draws her sword once again and enters this form, it is as a lightning bolt of flashing steel, moving with unimaginable speed and control. While in this form, it is customary to sheathe one's sword after each strike, and draw it anew for each new one—not merely as a show of this style's formidable speed, but to contain and dissipate the overwhelming
buildup of Essence that might erupt beyond the stylist's control without such restraint.
System: Spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm for the rest of the scene. The first time the swordsman uses this Charm in a fight, she rolls her sword into battle with a (Wits + Melee) Initiative, giving it its own Initiative separate from her own. This does not represent the sword gaining intelligence or agency of its own, but rather, the superior speed of the stylist allowing her to strike twice during each round. When the sword's turn comes up in Initiative order, the swordsman may choose to make an attack with it, or to delay the action until later in the round. No other actions can be taken (including movement actions), and if the stylist does not choose one of these options, the sword's turn is wasted.

Liquid Steel Flow (●●●)
Moving faster than her foes can even blink, the stylist's blade seems like a flowing river of steel.
System: Spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm upon activation Liquid Steel Flow adds the stylist's Dexterity to the roll of her attacks. After landing a successful attack, she may pay a point of Willpower to extend this Charm's duration to one scene. Spending an additional Willpower ends the Liquid Steel Flow, as the swordsman focuses all her speed into one deadly-perfect strike that converts up to (Dexterity x 2) dice of damage to automatic successes. While this style's form is active, if the stylist and her sword both act on the same tick to make an attack, then the benefits of this Charm apply to both attacks before it ends. The swordsman does not seem to make two attacks, but a single stroke of steel that can fell even the mightiest of enemies. This charm can only be used while in Shining Point In The Void Form.

Six-Demon Scabbard Binding (●●●●)
Sweeping her blade through the motions of an intricate Essence-channeling pattern, the stylist forces hostile magic to condense itself into form, taking on shape as a howling
devil which she swiftly dispatches and seals away as she sheathes her sword.
System: By spending 1 Essence The Six-Demon Scabbard Binding allows the Stylist to defend against a warping, twisting, or shaping effect that would alter her mind or body by making an attack against it, opposed by the activation roll of the effect. If the magic has no roll, its user rolls (Willpower), or a more suitable dice pool chosen by the Storyteller. The Six-Demon Scabbard Binding can also be used to cut a clear path through ambient or environmental transformative magic, such as the warping effects of the
Dreaming, at a cost of 2 Essence and 1 Willpower. The stylist rolls (Dexterity + Melee) against the difficulty to resist the effect, or an ad hoc difficulty set by the Storyteller. Success lets the swordsman cut a metaphysical path for herself, rendering her immune to that magic for the rest of the scene. This charm can only be used while in Shining Point In The Void Form.

Blinding Nova Flare (●●●●●)
The first part of the Blinding Nova Flare is the overwhelming spiritual and physical pressure that precedes the edge of the swordsman's blade as she strikes. She makes a single attack that slices between all hope for defense, splitting the air like a thunderhead.
System: Spending 1 Essence and 1 Willpower when making an attack. The attack automatically hits, no matter how well the opponent defends or how poorly the Stylist rolls; if the dice indicate that the attack should not strike true, then it hits anyway, with no extra successes. Blinding Nova Flare which can only be used when the swordsman has entered this style's form, and acts on the same initiative as her sword to attack a single enemy and can't strike through a perfect defense such as Heavenly Guardian Defense, however, nor can it strike a target if there's simply no way to reach them (such as if they're on the other side of a wall or outside of the each of the weapon) This charm can only be used while in Shining Point In The Void Form.

Tiger

Striking Fury Claws (●)
Rigorous training, intense discipline, and the suffusing Essence of the tiger gives the martial artist's claw strikes the force to rend flesh and disembowel fallen enemies,
making her a bare-handed killer.
System: Taking an action to concentrate and rolling her Willpower rating against difficulty
7, or by reflexively spending 1 Willpower allows bare handed attacks to deal lethal damage for a scene. After successfully striking a target and inflicting damage with an attack, the player may reflexively spend 1 Essence to add Stylists strength successes to a damage roll.

Celestial Tiger Hide (●●)
Essence strengthens the martial artist's skin, suffusing it with the toughness of a tiger's hide.
System: Reflexively spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm. The Stylist adds her Strength to her soak rolls for the rest of the scene.

Tiger Form (●●●)
Dropped into the crouched, predatory pose of a tiger preparing to pounce, the martial artist's Essence comes to embody the pinnacle of predatory grace. Her fingers seem like claws as they move through their strikes, and her eyes narrow to cat-like slits.
System: Spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm for the rest of the scene. The character adds her Essence rating to her effective Strength and Dexterity; moreover she suffers no penalty for fighting while prone.

Spine Shattering Bite (●●●●)
Severing tendons and snapping bones, the Tiger stylist's brutal strikes leave her enemies helpless. paralyzing her enemy, slashing through tendons, smashing joints, or rending
connective tissue and shattering vertebrae at the base of the spine.
System: If one of the Stylist's attacks inflicts at least three levels of lethal or aggravated damage after soak, the player may reflexively pay 1 Essence to cripple a body part of her choice. This Charm can only be activated on brawl attacks and whilst in Tiger Form.

Angry Predator Frenzy (●●●●●)
The apex of Tiger style is nothing less than predation in its purest form. As the martial artist enters the Tiger Form, Her muscles surge with newfound strength, while her eyes narrow to red slits of berserker rage.
System: After successfully striking a target and inflicting damage with an attack, the player may reflexively spend 1 Essence to inflict (Strength) levels of automatic Lethal damage.This Charm can only be activated whilst in Tiger Form.
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Even more Martial Arts

White Reaper

Revolving Crescent Defense (●)
The White Reaper is most at ease when surrounded by enemies, turning their strength of numbers to her own advantage.
System: Spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm for the rest of the scene. The Revolving Crescent Defense cancels all Multiple Opponents Penalty to the martial artist's Parry, instead converting each point of penalty into a bonus dice to her attack and parry even if the stylist doesn't take Multiple Opponents Penalty act as if they do.

White Reaper Form (●●)
The martial artist rears up into a grim and terrifying battle posture, regarding her opponents as little more than grass to be scythed down before her.
System: Spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm for the rest of the scene. Whenever the stylist incapacitates an opponent or deals 5 or more health levels of damage, A halo of sizzling, silver-white Essence surges around her like a second skin.The martial artist may have up to (2 x Essence ) in halos. The player may reflexively spend 1 Willpower to add ( current halos) to their soak.

Enemies Like Grass (●●●)
The martial artist swings her scythe through the ranks of her foes, trailing argent afterimages as she waters the earth with blood.
System: Spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm upon activation Enemies Like Grass allows the martial artist to make attacks against two separate enemies, making a single attack roll but rolling damage separately. While White Reaper Form is active, The player may reflexively spend 1 Willpower to make an additional attack for every halo she has. However, at the end of the turn, all halos burn away; these attacks follow multiple action rules. This Charm can only be activated on Melee attacks and whilst in White Reaper Form.

Flickering Corona Barrier (●●●●)
Executing a lightning-fast kata, the White Reaper bends the arcing nimbus of power around herself into a flickering shield.
System: Spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm for the rest of the scene. The Stylist adds one dice to her parry. The martial artist also may expend her halos to lower her Parry difficulties as well by one per halo. This Charm can only be activated whilst in White Reaper Form.

Snow Follows Winter (●●●●●)
A brilliant flare of scarlet suffuses the silver halos of the White Reaper's corona, as if stained with the blood of countless enemies. Then, in an instant, it flickers out, vanishing into her wounds and sealing them with a hissing burst of steam and Enemies who have witnessed the awful power of their seemingly invincible enemy lose their courage in battle.
System: Spend 1 Essence and 2 Willpower to activate this Charm. The martial artist must have White Reaper Form active and at least one damaged -2 health level to use Snow Follows Winter to heal (current halos) levels of bashing and lethal damage. Doing so expends these halos at the end of her turn. This healing surge can only be used once per scene. Additionally, for the rest of the scene, the martial artist gains the following benefits while she is in White Reaper Form.
The martial artist reduces any wound penalties she suffers by the number of halos she has.
Anyone who saw the stylist use this charm takes +2 difficulty to resist intimidation from the Stylist and the Stylist may expend a willpower to make a reflexive Strength + Intimidation roll against everyone who has seen the charm's activation.

Ebon Shadow

Seven Points of Weakness Strike (●)
Pinpointing a seam or flaw in an enemy's armor, the martial artist strikes through it with the expert precision of a trained assassin.
System: Seven Points of Weakness Strike subtracts (the martial artist's Stealth) from her enemy's armored soak for (Essence rating + 1) turns.

Ebon Shadow Form (●●)
The martial artist's outline begins to distort and flicker, as if it were a shadow cast by a candle's unsteady flame. She moves with eerie speed and unnatural grace, making her enemies question whether she is even human.
System: Spend 1 Willpower to activate this Charm for the rest of the scene. If her anima flares, it seems shapeless and dark, an umbral mantle enveloping her in its depths. Any enemy who fails an opposed roll to spot her when she enters stealth can not find her unless she attacks them or comes out from her hidden position and announces her presence to them.

Shadow-Body Dissolution (●●●)
The martial artist's body becomes tenebrous and insubstantial, dissipating and deforming to let blows pass harmlessly through her.
System: Spend 1 Essence and 1 Willpower to activate this Charm Shadow-Body Dissolution adds the martial artist's (Essence + Stealth) to their soak for an attack against her. If the martial artist takes no damage at all from the attack, she may reflexively make a Stealth attempt. On a successful roll, what her foe struck at was nothing but a shadowy illusion. As the stylist slips from notice. This Charm can only be activated whilst in Ebon Shadow Form.

Throat-Slitting Shadow Atemi (●●●●●)
Shrouding her weapon in a penumbra of Essence, the martial artist strikes before her foes have even realized they are under attack.
System: After successfully striking a target with an unexpected attack, the player may reflexively spend 1 Essence to add (Stealth) automatic damage to her damage roll. An enemy killed with this Charm dissolves into smoke, leaving behind no corpse. This Charm can only be activated whilst in Ebon Shadow Form.

Umbra Noose Execution (●●●●)
Moving her hands through lightning-quick strikes to an enemy's shadow, the martial artist corrupts it with her own Essence, warping it into a weapon of silent murder that betrays its master.
System: Spend 1 Essence and 1 Willpower to activate this Charm. When the martial artist makes an unexpected attack against an enemy, she may unleash the Umbra Noose Execution, an attack that warps the enemy's shadow into a razor-edged chain that coils around its master's neck, raising him into the air and bleeds into their eyes. The umbra noose deals (Essence + Stealth) damage and on an attack that deals 4 or more damage sends the target Stunned and Blind rolling across the floor they remain Blind for the stylist's Essence turns and must spend an action on their turn to reorient themselves though they may not attack they can still defend themselves.This Charm can only be activated whilst in Ebon Shadow Form.


Righteous Devil

Blossom of Inevitable Demise (●)
Drawing in a quick breath, the Righteous Devil tastes the wickedness of a world in need of judgment. As she exhales, pulling down hard on the trigger, she burns that world clean with fire.
System: Spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm for the rest of the scene. When the stylist aims with a firearm, she may also reload it (and/or draw it), without needing to take a separate action. If there are any enemies at close range to her, she must succeed on a (Wits + Firearms) roll at difficulty 8 to successfully execute this maneuver. On a failed roll, she successfully loads the weapon, but does not gain the advantages of aiming. For one 1 Willpower It can also extend the range of a firearm by Essence x 20 Yards for the rest of the scene.

Kiss of Sun Concentration (●●)
Sighting along the flows of Essence that connect her weapon with its mark, the Righteous Devil sends her will down a fine line of possibility, transforming it into inevitability.
System: Spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm for the rest of the scene. Kiss of the Sun Concentration adds any dice from aiming to the damage of an attack it also eliminates the difficulty penalty of called Shots.

Righteous Devil Form (●●●)
Creation itself seems to hold its breath as the stylist cloaks herself in the majestic and terrible stillness of the Righteous Devil Form. An inescapable gravity seems to exude from her confident, unwavering posture, sending the innocent scurrying away to safety and calling the unjust to reap the whirlwind of judgment they've sown.
System: Spend 1 Essence and 1 Willpower to activate this Charm for the rest of the scene. The first time the Righteous Devil enters this form in a fight, she may roll (Charisma + Intimidation + Essence) to intimidate all enemies or inspire them with an emotion of shame, guilt, or remorse as appropriate to their sins. Affected enemies take a penalty equal to the stylist's Charisma on disengage, withdraw, or Stealth-based actions unless they pay Willpower to resist. Additionally, at the beginning of each turn, the Righteous Devil may reflexively aim against any enemy whose Willpower was overcome by the activation of this form.

Dancing Devil Trigger Finger (●●●●)
Fire seems to take on a wrathful life of its own as it pours from the barrel of the Righteous Devil's weapon, flaring off into howling, winged devils of fire that spiral hungrily towards her foes.
System: Spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm. Dancing Devil Trigger Finger allows the stylist to attack against all enemies in a ninety-degree arc in front of her; these attacks all happen in the same turn and are subject to multiple action rules the stylist can make no more attacks then they possess dots in firearms. This charm can only be used while in Righteous Devil Form.

Caress of 1,000 Hells (●●●●●)
There is no sin beyond redemption in the fires stoked by the Righteous Devil. The Caress of 1,000 Hells sets an enemy ablaze with the fires of judgment, engulfing him in a swirling vortex of cobalt and gold flames. Within this hellish pyre, disembodied voices recount his sins and misdeeds, and offer him a single choice—repent, or burn.
System: After successfully striking a target and inflicting damage with an attack, the player may reflexively Spend 1 Essence and 1 Willpower to do one of two things depending upon the enemy. One, If the enemy chooses to repent, the flames fade away, leaving him changed but unscathed. He forms a Defining Intimacy reflecting the nature of his atonement, chosen by that character's player. A Camarilla prince who has made his fortune in the Ghoul trade might form a Defining Tie of hatred for all Ghoulers, while a hedonistic Abyssal mass murderer might form a Defining Principle of pacifism and simple living. An enemy who's atoned will generally retreat or surrender, and falls to his Knees Prone if he attempts to reestablish hostilities after repentance.
Two, On the other hand, if an enemy chooses to burn, the aftermath is far simpler. He suffers a number of levels of aggravated damage equal to the Righteous Devil's Essence in addition to the damage of the attack, as the fires erupt in a blinding conflagration. This Charm can only be used while in righteous devil form.

I know I posted the last batch kind of at an awkward time while we were discussing something kind of integral which is XP spend but if anyone had any thoughts about Tiger style or Single Point or any of the ones in this batch I'd love to hear them even if it's balance concerns though I really doubt we will get to utilize or attempt to utilize exalted martial arts anytime soon.
 
[x] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
-[x] Mom, you can see me just fine. Unless you mean to say I've never seen you, I don't know the young woman who fell into the wrong crowd and got kidnapped by a dragon does that mean I've never seen you? I don't know who dad was before he picked up the sword does that mean I've never seen him? Everyone shows a different face in different situations this is I will admit considerably more magical than that but it's the same phenomenon the face you show it to me is different from the one you show to leech, the face you show to Harry is different from the one you show to Harry and that's okay. To say you cannot see me now is to say you've never seen me. Even if some of the features that you cannot see as before are now geographical rather then just emotional.
--[x] I could call Uriel here if answers from their lips are what you require, but I'm not sure that's what I really want, is it mother?

[X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
-[X] Empathy excellency
-[X] stunt: "Only in the sense that I can't see you because the firing of the the neurons of your brain is hidden by your skull. Well, a lot more quantum-philosophical spacetime lensing, but the same principle. I am still me. The girl you raised and who gave you too much trouble. Not a puppet made in a crude imitation of the puppeteer. Not a shadow unfelt by the light that casts it. A window into my rich inner world maybe?"
 
Degorium said:
I get with your going for and thank you for the clarification about what you were comparing Sanctuary to but you do understand that that completely affirms her fear of us being inhuman right. Comparing an entire planet to the neurons in your head means that you are being with a planet for a brain. It does nothing to soothe her for lack of a better word. Yeah what you can see of me is essentially a skin cell on my fingertip it is still me with all of my thoughts feelings and loves and emotions and motivations but my true self is the size of a small planet. The gaps between the totality of my existence and yours is the difference between your existence and the moons.

I was saying that your explanation's a bit too clinical or I felt it was a bit too clinical it doesn't really address the emotional problem she's having. That distance that she's feeling of I cannot see you is not addressed by essentially saying yeah I'm the size of a small planet you are seeing essentially a complete terminal that has all of the information necessary for me to interface with you properly but it's less than a tenth of a tenth of anything that I actually am. For some reason I don't think that would soothe her in any way.

Let me put it another way as I don't think I've demonstrate my point super well. It feels like charity needs a reaffirmation of our Humanity not an explanation of what we actually are at this moment whether that be Molly as a terminal for the soul that is her world or Molly The Infernal exalted she wants Molly her daughter Margaret Katherine Amanda Carpenter. Explaining a little bit about the phenomenon is fine and necessary but going in depth is likely to lose her and kind of affirm what she's fearing.
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I understand. I instinctively dislike lying, and I see only two ways forward: lie to Charity about what we are, and keep lying, more and more, as we grow more and more primordial, or ease her into accepting that Molly became more. She did turn inhuman, she became human++. Try and reframe the issue, by explaining that Molly-as-human is all of Molly, just repackaged.
 
Degorium said:
I know I posted the last batch kind of at an awkward time while we were discussing something kind of integral which is XP spend but if anyone had any thoughts about Tiger style or Single Point or any of the ones in this batch I'd love to hear them even if it's balance concerns though I really doubt we will get to utilize or attempt to utilize exalted martial arts anytime soon.
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The first thing is that phrasing is very awkward. And needs a lot of work. The second is that why use 3E styles when 2E should be much easier to port over?

Single Point Shining Into the Void
Gathering Light Concentration (●) - Why does it use Willpower when description talks about finding a weakness? Why not use progressive cost to soft cap the technique instead of making awkward caveats? 1-2-5-10-20 etc. successes with a minimum roll DC of 2. Even an Exalt with an Excellency would be hard pressed to get more than 4. And as a general rule you don't want the roll go over 10 dice in WoD.

Shining Point In The Void Form (●●) - Mostly awkward phrasing that could be cut more than in half. Also needs a small blurb about what happens if there are no opponents within reach just to be sure.

Liquid Steel Flow (●●●) - Just no. Again while 10 dice pool may not be a hard cap you should always keep it in mind. And just doubling the Dexterity on attack is a giant no from a system point of view. If you are adding something to attack roll it should be a different attribute or skill. Preferably one you won't normally take as a fighter.

By description you can easily change this Charm into an AOE attack or something similar. Plus Exalts and Awakened mortals would already have other ways of enhancing their rolls.

Six-Demon Scabbard Binding (●●●●) - Seems to be good. Clear cut effect and phrasing. No ballooning of dice pools.

Blinding Nova Flare (●●●●●) - A little awkward phrasing but overall okay.
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Tiger

Striking Fury Claws (●) - The basic effect is okay, but the additional Strength successes? When you are already using Strength to deal damage? No. Turning normal Strength dice into automatic successes should be okay, but adding another 3-5 or more automatic successes on a damage roll as a 1 dot charm/power is just no. Consider what happens if someone with this charm has Potence or equivalent.

Again do not just add dice on rolls! And if you are doing it think very carefully.

Celestial Tiger Hide (●●) - This seems more or less okay as a base effect for a celestial martial art. But can it soak Lethal? Aggravated? Or is it just bashing soak like Stamina?

Tiger Form (●●●) - No. Consider Molly with this charm. It gives ridiculous results with Excellency thrown into the mix.

Spine Shattering Bite (●●●●) - This seems okay. Though ideally the damage threshold should be based off opponent's HL.

Angry Predator Frenzy (●●●●●) - As a 5 dot charm and soakable damage that's okay.
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White Reaper

Revolving Crescent Defense (●) - The penalty removal is good. The dice pool bonus is a big fat No. Again. Give a minor DC reduction if you want or make it cost an Essence to use the bonus dice for one roll. And even that is a big maybe.

White Reaper Form (●●) - More or less okay due to cost of activation. Though personally I would keep only the "downed opponents" clause since some enemies look at 5 HL damage as a scratch.

Enemies Like Grass (●●●) - Borderline okay mostly due to cost. Since you are going to be burning through Willpower with this style.

Flickering Corona Barrier (●●●●) - Why add one die? You have halos you can lower the difficulty. You have no halos? Go away. The die is completely unneeded. Don't forget to mention that minimum DC of parry is 2. Because some people are too damn stubborn for their own good.

Snow Follows Winter (●●●●●) - Mechanically seems okay.
I don't like this style. It's thematically all over the place and its fluff is just strange.
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Ebon Shadow

Seven Points of Weakness Strike (●) - Why does the description talk about precision but the system uses Stealth? And if it is Stealth why is it not opposed by Awareness?

Ebon Shadow Form (●●) - This seems mostly useless. Can't find a target that has already won a Stealth roll against you? In combats that go for maybe 5-6 rounds? For 1 Willpower? Also system part has little to do with description.

Shadow-Body Dissolution (●●●) - The base soak effect against one attack is okay. But what "As the stylist slips from notice" means? No one knows. System part should be for mechanics not descriptions.

Throat-Slitting Shadow Atemi (●●●●●) - A little awkward phrasing but the effect is okay.

Umbra Noose Execution (●●●●) - A five dot charm that costs 1 essence and 1 WP to activate and deals a top of 10, probably lethal, damage. That may blind the target if it doesn't soak it. Compare it to Spine Shattering Bite. Or consider what your SSB plus Striking Fury Claws would do to most people and compare them to this charm.
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Righteous Devil

Blossom of Inevitable Demise (●) - This is just a mess. Something like "Spend one Essence. You can reload or draw guns in your possesion as a free action for the rest of the scene." would give more or less the same result and avoid the whole awkwardness.

Kiss of Sun Concentration (●●) - This seems okay.

Righteous Devil Form (●●●) - Mechanically seems to be okay. But overall the charm is very strange.

Dancing Devil Trigger Finger (●●●●) - Why the ninety degree arc requirement? How are you going to measure it? For WoD you always want to stick to descritptive and narrative limitations whenever you can. Because precise numbers don't work very good with it. This quest also doesn't use combat maps.

Caress of 1,000 Hells (●●●●●) - Mechanically this seems to be okay but the phrasing is horrible and needs a rewrite.

Overall:
- Don't call martial artists stylists. Stylists are people who make hairstyling and clothes not punch people in the face. Even if a lot of the time they want to.
- Remeber the soft 10 dice cap for WoD.
- Stop using Exalted 3E as your basis for Charms since 2E is much closer to WoD and should be easier to port over.
- Read more systems to clean up your pharsing for mechanical parts.
 
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[X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
-[X] Empathy Excellency
-[X] Mom, you can see me just fine. Unless you mean to say I've never seen you, I don't know the young woman who fell into the wrong crowd and got kidnapped by a dragon does that mean I've never seen you? I don't know who dad was before he picked up the sword does that mean I've never seen him? Everyone shows a different face in different situations this is I will admit considerably more magical than that but it's the same phenomenon the face you show to me is different from the one you show to leech, the face you show to Harry is different from the one you show to Harry and that's okay. To say you cannot see me now is to say you've never seen me. Even if some of the features that you cannot see as before are now geographical rather then just emotional.
 
[X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
-[X] Empathy Excellency
-[X] Mom, you can see me just fine. Unless you mean to say I've never seen you, I don't know the young woman who fell into the wrong crowd and got kidnapped by a dragon does that mean I've never seen you? I don't know who dad was before he picked up the sword does that mean I've never seen him? Everyone shows a different face in different situations this is I will admit considerably more magical than that but it's the same phenomenon the face you show to me is different from the one you show to leech, the face you show to Harry is different from the one you show to Harry and that's okay. To say you cannot see me now is to say you've never seen me. Even if some of the features that you cannot see as before are now geographical rather then just emotional.
 
uju32 said:
Boils down to this:
Nobody here I am aware of has the system mastery of WoD necessary to do homebrew involving that gameline that Im comfortable with; they invariably miss something.
Especially anything to do with WTA, which makes Exalted look straightforward.
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I made more mistakes with that charm than I realized, but I don't think what I was trying to do was out of scope of some of the other significant rework done to existing charms.

Having something I wrote get holes poked in it after we're past the point where I can do anything about it has soured me on doing this again though.

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She needs to visit, but now is terrible timing, and will probably apply penalties to any argument we make.
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This is a good point, though I think there are some areas that are beautiful and peaceful in the forests. They're just alien too, so they don't detract from your point.
 
Zoolimar said:
The first thing is that phrasing is very awkward. And needs a lot of work. The second is that why use 3E styles when 2E should be much easier to port over?
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First off Thank you I'm sorry the phrasing was so clumsy. Second reason I used 3E is mostly because I found 3rd editions martial arts to be more flavorful and have mechanical distinctions that were interesting to put into a game while second editions had a lot more of them and a lot of them are just kind of meh as far as mechanical flavor goes so while converting third editions is harder each style has its own mechanical feel.
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Single Point Shining Into the Void
Gathering Light Concentration (●) - Why does it use Willpower when description talks about finding a weakness? Why not use progressive cost to soft cap the technique instead of making awkward caveats? 1-2-5-10-20 etc. successes with a minimum roll DC of 2. Even an Exalt with an Excellency would be hard pressed to get more than 4. And as a general rule you don't want the roll go over 10 dice in WoD.

Shining Point In The Void Form (●●) - Mostly awkward phrasing that could be cut more than in half. Also needs a small blurb about what happens if there are no opponents within reach just to be sure.

Liquid Steel Flow (●●●) - Just no. Again while 10 dice pool may not be a hard cap you should always keep it in mind. And just doubling the Dexterity on attack is a giant no from a system point of view. If you are adding something to attack roll it should be a different attribute or skill. Preferably one you won't normally take as a fighter.

By description you can easily change this Charm into an AOE attack or something similar. Plus Exalts and Awakened mortals would already have other ways of enhancing their rolls.

Six-Demon Scabbard Binding (●●●●) - Seems to be good. Clear cut effect and phrasing. No ballooning of dice pools.

Blinding Nova Flare (●●●●●) - A little awkward phrasing but overall okay.
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Gathering Light Concentration (●) - Willpower in that instance is meant to represent the effort of using the martial art. Another reason being it's a non-excellencyable pool to draw successes from. It's meant to be a reactive defense not an overall benefit to all of your dice that you use to attack everyone but a singular opponent makes an attack against you and on a successful Parry you can turn their successes on the attack into weakness in their defense when you attack them. The reason I didn't use a progressive cost in successes on what would probably be a Perception + Melee roll it's because then it wouldn't be worth using for an exalt because they have a limited pool of essence if this charm costs one Essence to use even if it gives a benefit against every opponent you successfully Parry it has to balance against using an Excellency or another scene long charm. With that in mind I have to balance it against against the player Question "do I conserve my Essence and possibly have a dice pool of anywhere from 15 to 20 depending on whether I'm terrestrial or celestial for an additional 2 to possibly 6 rounds or do I get a -2 or - 3 in difficulty to hit people that I've already parryed" this is what the understanding that generally a single reduction in difficulty translates to a single additional dice the ability to absolutely pop off on a willpower roll is kind of the point it allows it to be strong without going overboard into being crazy especially if it was in the hands of a mortal which is the other consideration I built the style is around because I don't know what enlightened Mortals was going to look like but I knew it was probably going to be 2 to 3 Essence at Essence one 3 to 4 at essence 2 ect. So it has to have worth to a person that would be spending anywhere from half to a third of their entire budget on.

Shining Point In The Void Form (●●) well you only roll initiative when you're in a fight. If you cannot get with a melee range before the swords turn the swords turn is wasted though because you fight with a sword I guess also your turn is wasted but that's a whole other thing. I'll work on the verbiage to be honest I was trying to get them together.

Liquid Steel Flow (●●●) yeah you're right a scene long additional dexterity is fucking cracked maybe something like this instead
System: Spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm upon activation Liquid Steel Flow adds the stylist's Dexterity to the roll of her attacks. After landing a successful attack, she may pay a point of Willpower to extend this Charm's duration by Essence turns. The martial artist may end liquid steel flow early by spending an additional willpower converting all of her speed into a deadly strike that converts up to Dexterity dice of damage into automatic successes while in single point in the void form.

I know exalted would have other ways of increasing their damage and dice pools but I'm unsure of how awakened Mortals would so these are kind of centered around them even though they serve the Chosen considerably better but that's kind of the point.

Six-Demon Scabbard Binding (●●●●) Blinding Nova Flare (●●●●●) Thank you I'll try to meet this standard again for the rest of these thank you for the feedback I really appreciate it.
 
Degorium said:
It's meant to be a reactive defense not an overall benefit to all of your dice that you use to attack everyone but a singular opponent makes an attack against you and on a successful Parry you can turn their successes on the attack into weakness in their defense when you attack them.
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Gathering Light Concentration (●) - You literally made it last a Scene. Why would you spend more Essence on it when you get it for the whole Scene for one Essence?
"Spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm for the rest of the scene."
There is not a single mention of it ending for any reason. So unless the scene ends or character falls unconscious it works through the whole combat.

Liquid Steel Flow (●●●) - If we read what it does in 3E it should give a minor Scene long enhancement and a bonus damage on one attack.
Something like "Spend one Essence. All your attacks with the sword get -1DC until the end of this Charm or Scene. Whenever you land an attack you can add your Dexterity to the damage roll but the Charm ends after this attack is resolved".

EDIT: Also I think it's better to move this discussion to a separate thread or PM.
 
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OK, vote closed, lets see if Molly can pull off selling alien demon god metamorphosis to her mother... once again.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jun 7, 2024 at 8:59 AM, finished with 110 posts and 21 votes.
  • [X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
    -[X] Mom, you can see me just fine. Unless you mean to say I've never seen you, I don't know the young woman who fell into the wrong crowd and got kidnapped by a dragon does that mean I've never seen you? I don't know who dad was before he picked up the sword does that mean I've never seen him? Everyone shows a different face in different situations this is I will admit considerably more magical than that but it's the same phenomenon the face you show to me is different from the one you show to leech, the face you show to Harry is different from the one you show to Harry and that's okay. To say you cannot see me now is to say you've never seen me. Even if some of the features that you cannot see as before are now geographical rather then just emotional.
    [X] Invite Charity to Sanctuary after performing a giga-hug on her.
    -[X] Stunt: "Can we take a short trip real quick? Dad's already seen it, but you haven't gotten the full Sanctuary experience yet."
    --[X] After the initial Sanctuary introduction: "This is all me, mom. And the me you're talking to is me, and so is Pods - ugh, that name! I'm gonna call her Polly from now on. It's not that you see a shadow or a puppet when you look at me, just a small part of a greater whole. There's a lot of Molly to go around these days.
    ---[X] "And look on the bright side, the brighter side, I should say, this latest hiccup should alleviate a lot of your worries about me going out and fighting monsters. Now that I'm in more than one place at any given time, I'm even harder to kill than I was before, and that bar was already pretty high."
    [X] Call Uriel thrice by the name he gave from his own lips, he will hear you, he will come you are sure of it, he can explain himself.
    [X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
    -[X] Empathy excellency
    -[X] Mom, you can see me just fine. Unless you mean to say I've never seen you, I don't know the young woman who fell into the wrong crowd and got kidnapped by a dragon does that mean I've never seen you? I don't know who dad was before he picked up the sword does that mean I've never seen him? Everyone shows a different face in different situations this is I will admit considerably more magical than that but it's the same phenomenon the face you show to me is different from the one you show to leech, the face you show to Harry is different from the one you show to Harry and that's okay. To say you cannot see me now is to say you've never seen me. Even if some of the features that you cannot see as before are now geographical rather then just emotional.
    [X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
    -[X] Empathy excellency
    -[X] stunt: "Only in the sense that I can't see you because the firing of the the neurons of your brain is hidden by your skull. Well, a lot more quantum-philosophical spacetime lensing, but the same principle. I am still me. The girl you raised and who gave you too much trouble. Not a puppet made in a crude imitation of the puppeteer. Not a shadow unfelt by the light that casts it. A window into my rich inner world maybe?"
    [X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
    -[x] Mom, you can see me just fine. Unless you mean to say I've never seen you, I don't know the young woman who fell into the wrong crowd and got kidnapped by a dragon does that mean I've never seen you? I don't know who dad was before he picked up the sword does that mean I've never seen him? Everyone shows a different face in different situations this is I will admit considerably more magical than that but it's the same phenomenon the face you show it to me is different from the one you show to leech, the face you show to Harry is different from the one you show to Harry and that's okay. To say you cannot see me now is to say you've never seen me. Even if some of the features that you cannot see as before are now geographical rather then just emotional.
    —[x] And if that still does not help you… there are ways, places, treasures, feats, and bargains that would let you see all of me, but… all of them cost something, and most would require becoming… more than mortal, if not more than human.
    —-[x] I could call Uriel here if answers from their lips are what you require, but I'm not sure that's what I really want, is it mother?
    [X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
    [x] Create a clone based your love of your family. She should be able to explain things.
    -[x][Stunt]"Nobody gets to do that. Every soul contains multitudes. Potentials unrealized and faces circumstantial. I am just able to realize far more potential and you actually get to meet more of my multitudes. Well I only get to see the single shadow you cast against the wall even if my eyes are very sharp."
    [X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
    -[X] "Think of it like when someone moves out of home and you chat to them over video call. It's still real and meaningful, and if you feel like you're missing anything, you just wait until the weekend when they come around in person. I'm not going anywhere, and there is no part of me that is hidden from you, if you wish to see me."
    [X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
    -[X] Empathy excellency
    -[X] Invite her to the Sanctuary, to some beautiful forest area
    -[X] stunt: "Only in the sense that I can't see you because the firing of the the neurons of your brain is hidden by your skull. Well, a lot more quantum-philosophical spacetime lensing, but the same principle. I am still me. The girl you raised and who gave you too much trouble. Not a puppet made in a crude imitation of the puppeteer. Not a shadow unfelt by the light that casts it. A window into my rich inner world maybe? Speaking of, would you like to visit?"
    [X] Try to reassure her that she can see you just fine, there is just more of you to go around
    -[x] Mom, you can see me just fine. Unless you mean to say I've never seen you, I don't know the young woman who fell into the wrong crowd and got kidnapped by a dragon does that mean I've never seen you? I don't know who dad was before he picked up the sword does that mean I've never seen him? Everyone shows a different face in different situations this is I will admit considerably more magical than that but it's the same phenomenon the face you show it to me is different from the one you show to leech, the face you show to Harry is different from the one you show to Harry and that's okay. To say you cannot see me now is to say you've never seen me. Even if some of the features that you cannot see as before are now geographical rather then just emotional.
    --[x] I could call Uriel here if answers from their lips are what you require, but I'm not sure that's what I really want, is it mother?
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    • Seeing Far, Seeing Deep ​

    1st of February 2007 A.D.

    For just a moment the name of Uriel is almost on your lips, let him explain the strange geometries turning in your mind, easy to grasp, all but impossible to render. But No, you are not here to summon the Lord's angels. We are not Usum, you slam a mental door in the demon's face for the first time in a long time. Instead, you get up from your chair and walk over to the couch where Mom's sitting, not reaching out just being close, present: "Mom, you can see me just fine. Unless you mean to say I've never seen you, I don't know the young woman who fell into the wrong crowd and got kidnapped by a dragon does that mean I've never seen you? I don't know who dad was before he picked up the sword does that mean I've never seen him? Everyone shows a different face in different situations this is I will admit considerably more magical than that but it's the same phenomenon the face you show to me is different from the one you show to Leech, the face you show to Daniel is different from the one you show to Hank and that's okay."

    "That's not... you're not..."

    "Human?" You drop the word without preamble, without a trace of hesitation, even as inside you are quaking that it had come to this. This talk of all that could have been.

    "Molly that's not what she meant..." dad begins, but for once you do not listen. Even if she had not thought the words that is what she meant and...

    "In a lot of ways I'm not and I'm not going to play games with it, I did not turn into one of the fey, thank God. But all these changes, all this power and responsibility and knowledge, that's the scariest part for me by the way, hasn't changed who I am. I'm still the girl who twisted her ankle trying to get up a tree with branches too small to hold me up, even though you told me..."

    "Yelled at me really," Pods corrects

    "That there's no way I can get up there," you finish. "I'm still the one who sneaked out of window so often you moved my bedroom."

    "Though learning to fly has rendered it rather ineffective," the peanut gallery chines in again.

    "What?"

    There's the reaction you were looking for. Maybe it does not say the best thing about your past relationship with your mother than the best way you could think to ground her was to remind her of your misdeeds, but at this point you''ll take whatever works. "To say you cannot see me now is to say you've never seen me. Even if some of the features that you cannot see as before are now are not altogether human..."

    "They are still altogether me," other-you finishes. "And hey there's one silver lining to this cloud."

    "And what's that?" She slowly looks between the two of you, some of the color leching back in her cheeks.

    "I'm even harder to hurt with two bodies than one. I only have one crown and hence only one head can wear it, but while one of me endures all of me will. I'll be safer than ever before," if I'm not counting all the enemies I made over the last month, you think behind sealed lips. To be honest you would call it about even

    "Molly... sweetie... why do you keep solving things... like this?"

    "To each of us is given a cross to bear," your father interjects. "Often it is spoken of the weight upon our backs, but less perhaps than should be about the sight of others bearing their own and how strange and frightening it can be to see them and wonder how they could bear it. Yet they can, we all can, walking the road together."

    With that Mom isn't... easy around Pods, but she does smile when she is informed of her designation and what the initals spell. Apparently that's a 'very Molly thing to do'

    What does that road hold for you?

    6+2 Infernal AP Available (Extra AP from not sleeping may only be used to add progress)
    Actions marked [SGI] can be performed by incarnations such as Pods, though not to the same standard as the infernal
    24 (4*6) SGI AP available

    School
    Not that many months to go

    [] [SGI] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile
    [] [SGI] Get your GED and get out, on the other hand you can think of better things to to with your time (Costs 2 AP, frees you from spending anymore actions on school)

    Finances and Infrastructure
    Though you are not tight for money you can think of places to make more

    [] In the Sky a Thousand Eyes: If you see something you can stick a demon in it. It occurs to you that satellites are definitely something you can see with the right tools, though you are going to have to figure out which ones you want and what orders to give them.

    [] A Big Score, your Crown isn't really made for picking out random numbers in a mundane draw, but it is still your power so you can push it that one time to win a lottery... any lottery. You will have to find the balance between payout and anonymity and some place to park the money but that seems reasonably doable with some help from mom and dad, and unlike some of your other plans they are unlikely to object to this form of cheating at gambling

    [] Tools Redeemed: Thinking back on that paraphernalia you looted from the Fomori tantalizing insights come to mind... and more immediately relevant it will mean you can finally stop mooching of Harry's equipment. (Gain Alchemy Laboratory Halved XP price for reaching Alchemy 4)

    [] Sign of the Red Star: Get yo know your newest venture and how they might be integrated into the growing web of ownership and vassalage around you

    [] The Other side of the Mirror: Explore and secure Nevernever areas corresponding to the Last station

    Investigations
    At least the cannibal isn't around here anymore. Progress?

    [] [SGI] Look into the Minor Talents of Chicago, so far you have been isolated from the supernatural scene of Chicago, now that you can get in touch with them without necessarily having your dad with you all the time the time has come to change that... though given how both Mouse and McCoy thought you were bad news at first maybe you should bring dad or Harry along to some of them just as an introduction
    -[] Alphas, friends of Harry, close to you in age and they work to keep monsters off the street near the University, they sounds really cool
    -[] Friends in Low places, she might work for Marcone but Grad was really cool and you are curious about her. Fortunately you remember the number dad dialed to get in touch with Marcone
    -[] Spirit Speaker, Mortimer Lindquist is the real deal, a real medium among the fakes and unlike Pauline he is good enough at it, or just good enough at marketing to make a job of it. His books are pretty cool as well

    [] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
    -[] Dreaming True, Rosie is doing great so far, but she still needs more training before she can get a proper hold of her powers (0/15 progress)
    -[] Moving out, you are of age now and you certainly do not lack for funds, the sooner you get Rosie out of that house the better

    [] Blackest Name: In the final ritual to help Arawn you invoked something old and hungry, something that seemed to resonate with the purpose of the ritual, its name writ in a long forgotten tongue. Thanks to Bob you now know it involves the would-be-Draculas of the supernatural world, the Black Court. Maybe Lydia can help

    [] Servants of Darkness: Between your own insights, Lash's and the body of the fallen Akuma it occurs to you that you are in a good position to practice the soul trade... ethically, you are in a good position to practice the soul trade ethically

    [] Seek Siriothrax's hoard: Two decades ago your father was called to slay a Dragon, a being of incarnate power new mortals have faced and lived, by faith and by skill the creature was slain and your mother saved, but its treasure and its body were never claimed. Now... well now you have a place to stash said treasures out of sight of any who might look in askance of your claim to them

    [] NEW Secure the Shard of Gold: The Temple of Ra Descending holds a mechanism of ancient wonder at the heart of which rests a shard of power born of past ages. While they have been good swards to it until now it still worried you that such a thing should be protected only by mortal magic and faith. See if you can get them to accept more protections

    [] Updated [SGI] Higher Education: Boston is even freer of supernatural claimants than when you found it, but you have done little to engage with the mundane side of getting into Harvard. While other you may not cheat quite as hard you're sure they could manage. Cost 2 AP

    [] The Queen and the Kingdom: Get to know one of your lands and peoples
    -[] Join Isabela ton a Conan-esque jungle adventure, it's sure to be a blast
    -[] Introduce the Jade Dogs in general to your kingdom, some of them will likely prefer a world where they do not have to hide what they are

    [] [SGI] Crown and Scepter, see what good your unique talents can be put towards in Sanctuary Can spend up to 6 SGI AP

    [] [SGI] NEW Teachings of Winter: Teach Summoning, dream-weaving or other unknown Paths to the spirit binders of Sanctuary: Maeve's good will allows for the teaching of magics unknown to Sanctuary. Your presence, in some manner will help smooth matters Can spend up to 3 AP

    Personal Training
    You have been progressing in leaps and bounds in the study of the Qiao and you have been... exploding bottles less often in the study of alchemy. In both cases you are eager to learn more.

    [] The Bridges of the Spirit, continue your training with Brother Divsimar not in the ways of the spirit but the mind, the Bridge of Dreams

    [] Trading in lore, you have started down the path of learning alchemy from Bob... and revealing some of the deepest secrets of Yomi Wan, both very good things as far as you are concerned. (0/25)

    Arcane Allies
    For better or for ill you are starting to get a reputation in Chicago, best make sure it is more the former than the latter, at least with the more reasonable and trustworthy powers. As for the people who are neither... well you certainly seem to have an impact on them

    [] Cauldron Bubble, your new friends in the Ordo Lebetis could use more help, maybe not as... enthusiastic as the last time, but they are small fish in a very big and scary pond
    -[] See what's up with Helen, there is something eating away at Helen you are sure of it, something dark and strange, dark and strange is your specialty
    -[] Updated [SGI] Online presence, one of the few advantages of minor talents over more powerful magicians is that they are more up to date with technology and less likely to make it explode. See if you can convince the others to set up a strong online presence, maybe even recruiting

    [] Contact the Librarians: Given that you are the sovereign of an interdenominational magical nation it might be worth having a talk with a branch of the federal government that is aware of magic, the one that didn't introduce itself by trying to frame Harry right in front of you.

    [] NEW Getting Lydia a Good Boy: assist Lyida in getting a dog, maybe a magical one. Mouse might be interested in helping

    [] A Chat with Lady Winter: Maeve has proven herself helpful so far, if only for spite's sake. Maybe it would not hurt to spend some time with her. She's a lot better than some whose company you sought, though that is admittedly a low bar

    [] NEW Training... Wizards?: The White Council in its wisdom seems to have decided that Chicago is the ideal place to set up a training camp for young wizards to serve in the Wardens, you suspect in part because they reason the Red Court would not dare attack with you in town. Carlos would like to meet with you, in part to coordinate things so you don't trip over baby wizards, but also you suspect just to hang out

    [] NEW Traitor, Enemy of All: Thanks to your Crown you know the names of traitors in the White Council, the trouble is how to explain that without giving the game away. Or perhaps deal with them yourself

    Crafting
    Dreams filled with brass and smoke, soul artifice of an impossible city, you reach for tools and so are made things wondrous and strange unseen in this Age of the world (Crafting may have as many AP assigned to it as you wish, success will depend on the rolls made during the action. One week of crafting time is worth 1 AP)

    [] NEW [SGI] A Train for Porter: Though he is a lot more happy for the company and the rush of energy though hidden cables Porter retains his fascination with trains... something the Spirit Binders of the City of Journey could help him with Costs 4 AP

    [] Prodigious Artifact: Whether it be for Daniel or some other 'mere' mortal caught up in the world of vampires, warlocks sorcerers and demons you've had a thought for a working... a ring perhaps to grant a power both flexible and strong
    -[] Write in number of AP assigned

    [] Wheels of Fire:     As cool as Black Rider is you are sure you can make him cooler, look at what you had done with Mab's car with mere mundane means
    -[] Write in number of AP assigned

    [] NEW Favors Owed:     Just as you are owed favors by the Fey Courts so too do you owe others following the past month
    -[] Protections for the True Ventori up to 3 Favors
    -[] Work for Monoc 1 Favor

    [] New Artifact Workshop: Crafting a place of potential, a wild seed so near to the world of form is no easy thing, but once it's done you are sure it will pay for itself in full (0/10 AP)
    Joe Magarac will automatically provide 1d4 AP worth of progress per month
    Tiffany can and is willing to provide up to 4 AP per month

    [] NEW Attune and Study the Dark Rider: A treasure that should not be from a time that is not, what did you win from the girl-child that was neither girl nor child in the House of the Seasons?

    Family time
    As much else as you have to do, it's nice to spend some time with your family and it is rarely boring hanging out.

    [] [SGI] Updated Family Unknown, now that you know the full story your feelings towards your maternal grandparents are complicated to say the least, but people change right? And even if they didn't you have other more distant family in Boston that it would be cool to meet.

    [] [SGI] NEW Introductions to more of you: Twin jokes aside it's going to take a bit of time and care to get your family used to other yous and keep the secret

    [] Just relax: You can find some free time.... somewhere.

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    OOC: No doubt I forgot a bunch of actions that have been proposed, that was one long month. If you guys would remind me as well as of course provide any new suggestions that would be great.
     
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    • I mean, we can afford every SGI action. We have taken the power of AP hell for our own at last.
    More seriously, we should do most of these actions. There's no real reason not to look into Harvard, and do all of the Sanctuary actions. IMO everything in Sanctuary and mainly online should be taken.

    If we want to get safer use out of this we might want to get computers up and put one of us to managing cyberdevils.
     
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    I mean, we can afford every SGI action. We have taken the power of AP hell for our own at last.
    More seriously, we should do most of these actions. There's no real reason not to look into Harvard, and do all of the Sanctuary actions. IMO everything in Sanctuary and mainly online should be taken.

    If we want to get safer use out of this we might want to get computers up and put one of us to managing cyberdevils.
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    That is very much intended, you can now for instance have a regent in Sanctuary at last
     
    [] Plan Securing Gold
    -[] Molly
    --[] Secure the Shard of Gold: The Temple of Ra Descending holds a mechanism of ancient wonder at the heart of which rests a shard of power born of past ages. While they have been good swards to it until now it still worried you that such a thing should be protected only by mortal magic and faith. See if you can get them to accept more protections
    --[] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile
    --[] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
    ---[] Moving out, you are of age now and you certainly do not lack for funds, the sooner you get Rosie out of that house the better
    --[] New Artifact Workshop: Crafting a place of potential, a wild seed so near to the world of form is no easy thing, but once it's done you are sure it will pay for itself in full (0/10 AP)
    ---[] 2 bonus AP
    ---[] Involve Tiffany for 4 AP
    --[] Write-in: assist Lyida in getting a dog, maybe a magical one. Mouse might be interested in helping
    --[] Deal with White Council traitors, starting from the top
    --[] Pods
    ---[] [SGI] Crown and Scepter, see what good your unique talents can be put towards in Sanctuary Can spend up to 6 SGI AP
    ---[] 6 SGI AP

    OK, so:
    1) SGI goes into our kingdom as backup. I mean, we could send them elsewhere too, but I would rather have the SGI as a security in he kingdom
    2) Securing the Exaltation is the highest priority, full stop. Too dangerous to leave alone, and I want to arrange for it to select Daniel. Or some other ally we can trust.
    3) School and Rosie are obligations, we have to do those
    4) Artifact Workshop has 50% chance of being finished this month. Worth doing, so we can handle debts and personal crafting next at lesser cost
    5) Lydia was planning to get a puppy. I want her to get a magical one, and an adventure into heritage. And possibly a trip with Mouse.
    6) Dealing with White Council traitors. We have counter spelling, an infiltration charm and a specialist minion, and all the Intel. Needs to be done as soon as possible

    @DragonParadox are my write ins viable?

    This should be a relatively quick month
     
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    Yog said:
    [X] Plan Securing Gold
    -[X] Molly
    --[X] Secure the Shard of Gold: The Temple of Ra Descending holds a mechanism of ancient wonder at the heart of which rests a shard of power born of past ages. While they have been good swards to it until now it still worried you that such a thing should be protected only by mortal magic and faith. See if you can get them to accept more protections
    --[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile
    --[X] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
    ---[X] Moving out, you are of age now and you certainly do not lack for funds, the sooner you get Rosie out of that house the better
    --[X] New Artifact Workshop: Crafting a place of potential, a wild seed so near to the world of form is no easy thing, but once it's done you are sure it will pay for itself in full (0/10 AP)
    ---[X] 2 bonus AP
    ---[X] Involve Tiffany for 4 AP
    --[X] Write-in: assist Lyida in getting a dog, maybe a magical one. Mouse might be interested in helping
    --[X] Deal with White Council traitors, starting from the top
    --[X] Pods
    ---[X] [SGI] Crown and Scepter, see what good your unique talents can be put towards in Sanctuary Can spend up to 6 SGI AP
    ---[X] 6 SGI AP

    OK, so:
    1) SGI goes into our kingdom as backup. I mean, we could send them elsewhere too, but I would rather have the SGI as a security in he kingdom
    2) Securing the Exaltation is the highest priority, full stop. Too dangerous to leave alone, and I want to arrange for it to select Daniel. Or some other ally we can trust.
    3) School and Rosie are obligations, we have to do those
    4) Artifact Workshop has 50% chance of being finished this month. Worth doing, so we can handle debts and personal crafting next at lesser cost
    5) Lydia was planning to get a puppy. I want her to get a magical one, and an adventure into heritage. And possibly a trip with Mouse.
    6) Dealing with White Council traitors. We have counter spelling, an infiltration charm and a specialist minion, and all the Intel. Needs to be done as soon as possible

    @DragonParadox are my write ins viable?

    This should be a relatively quick month
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    I'd prefer a bit less caution with SGI, but even assuming that we don't let them do anything outside of Sanctuary you should probably use 3 SGI AP on the Teachings of Winter. I don't think it's worth saving for 3 non SGI AP, and it's useful to get started so that Sanctuary can start building on it.
     
    Yog said:
    [] Plan Securing Gold
    -[] Molly
    --[] Secure the Shard of Gold: The Temple of Ra Descending holds a mechanism of ancient wonder at the heart of which rests a shard of power born of past ages. While they have been good swards to it until now it still worried you that such a thing should be protected only by mortal magic and faith. See if you can get them to accept more protections
    --[] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile
    --[] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
    ---[] Moving out, you are of age now and you certainly do not lack for funds, the sooner you get Rosie out of that house the better
    --[] New Artifact Workshop: Crafting a place of potential, a wild seed so near to the world of form is no easy thing, but once it's done you are sure it will pay for itself in full (0/10 AP)
    ---[] 2 bonus AP
    ---[] Involve Tiffany for 4 AP
    --[] Write-in: assist Lyida in getting a dog, maybe a magical one. Mouse might be interested in helping
    --[] Deal with White Council traitors, starting from the top
    --[] Pods
    ---[] [SGI] Crown and Scepter, see what good your unique talents can be put towards in Sanctuary Can spend up to 6 SGI AP
    ---[] 6 SGI AP

    OK, so:
    1) SGI goes into our kingdom as backup. I mean, we could send them elsewhere too, but I would rather have the SGI as a security in he kingdom
    2) Securing the Exaltation is the highest priority, full stop. Too dangerous to leave alone, and I want to arrange for it to select Daniel. Or some other ally we can trust.
    3) School and Rosie are obligations, we have to do those
    4) Artifact Workshop has 50% chance of being finished this month. Worth doing, so we can handle debts and personal crafting next at lesser cost
    5) Lydia was planning to get a puppy. I want her to get a magical one, and an adventure into heritage. And possibly a trip with Mouse.
    6) Dealing with White Council traitors. We have counter spelling, an infiltration charm and a specialist minion, and all the Intel. Needs to be done as soon as possible

    @DragonParadox are my write ins viable?

    This should be a relatively quick month
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    SGI AP cannot be used for the Workshop, that takes exalted magic, Angelic power or steel fey know-how. Otherwise yes, will add the traitors and the dogs.
     
    Yog said:
    This should be a relatively quick month
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    I don't think dealing with White Council traitors is going to be relatively quick. Your underselling how big of an issue that is. I wouldn't be surprised if that stretches out like the Vegas Arc.

    @DragonParadox How does crafting for the Archive cost 3 AP max or was that Ventori part referring to something else?
     
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