Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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We were explicitly warned from binding ourselves too closely, and we are definitely not doing anything resembling that. We aren't putting CRX into our way directly.
Also, while this insight would be super out of place for member of MoI, I don't see how it can really clash with them, their job is to sniff for bad actors, and while 'Lets not be assholes first' is a somewhat unorthodox technique, it is not like it is forbidden to try to coexist.
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Since the insight is obviously gonna win at this point, I'll make my peace with it. Honestly, as long as we don't apply the term "neighbor" too liberally, it shouldn't be too bad. Like, we may find ourselves at odds with the Red Jungle or the Peaks eventually but I think they're a little far to be our neighbors?
We have groups closer to home who are clearly enemies so we can still take the initiative when it comes to them.
I guess I don't really see the point of taking an insight that's likely to come under stress and probably turn into a heart demon.
However its true that the more insights we take, the more likely they are to conflict with one another. So I guess its bound to happen.
We have groups closer to home who are clearly enemies so we can still take the initiative when it comes to them.
I guess I don't really see the point of taking an insight that's likely to come under stress and probably turn into a heart demon.
However its true that the more insights we take, the more likely they are to conflict with one another. So I guess its bound to happen.
I should have clarified.
When I meant "clash," I meant the following:
We might end doing a thing similar to the MoI, but differently. We'll be the internal policing agency of the Emerald Seas, sniffing out bad
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- The Void
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- Hawaii
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
Make it an even 100.
Make it an even 100.
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[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
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- definitely the ground
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- They/Them/It
That would require so much self-awareness that they'd also notice that demonic cultivation is the real Imperial orthodoxy.
[X] Do not take insight from MoSS
The vote is pretty well decided at this point, but I'll give it one last push.
To those voting for the Insight because of the potential for tension and conflict: I honestly agree with your priorities and tastes, and I even share them.
The trouble is that I anticipate the Insight making those topics harder to broach, not easier. I don't mean more difficult when broached, I mean more difficult to raise in the first place.
This is obviously counterintuitive because accepting something as an Insight is naturally going to make a cultivator more sensitive to related issues. It kind of has to.
The problem exists in the meta level, of actually writing the quest/story. Slotting the subject matter as an Insight raises the stakes involved, which exponentially raises the complexity of including it at any given point in the story. If there's some Main Plot stuff going on, yrs generally won't be able to afford risking getting mired down in a potential heart demon.
This means pre-emptively culling the story of friction point that might raise the issues or brushing over them when inconvenient, the majority of the time. Neither is satisfying or serves the needs of the story well.
You see similar behaviour from our first Insight, which got strained and resolved almost invisibly, after a long history of opportunities that were passed by.
Tl;dr: incorporating something as an Insight means that tension over it almost has to have its own purpose built narrative arcs, which naturally curtails how much exploration of it can actually be done on a practical level.
To those voting for the Insight because of the potential for tension and conflict: I honestly agree with your priorities and tastes, and I even share them.
The trouble is that I anticipate the Insight making those topics harder to broach, not easier. I don't mean more difficult when broached, I mean more difficult to raise in the first place.
This is obviously counterintuitive because accepting something as an Insight is naturally going to make a cultivator more sensitive to related issues. It kind of has to.
The problem exists in the meta level, of actually writing the quest/story. Slotting the subject matter as an Insight raises the stakes involved, which exponentially raises the complexity of including it at any given point in the story. If there's some Main Plot stuff going on, yrs generally won't be able to afford risking getting mired down in a potential heart demon.
This means pre-emptively culling the story of friction point that might raise the issues or brushing over them when inconvenient, the majority of the time. Neither is satisfying or serves the needs of the story well.
You see similar behaviour from our first Insight, which got strained and resolved almost invisibly, after a long history of opportunities that were passed by.
Tl;dr: incorporating something as an Insight means that tension over it almost has to have its own purpose built narrative arcs, which naturally curtails how much exploration of it can actually be done on a practical level.
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- the internet
You know, I didn't think of that...Hmmm. Food for thought.
Even so, I do miss the days when we went a classic heist or at least a spy mission...When was the last time LQ had to really use her stealth in an important way for a mission? The caldera fight?
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Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
- Pronouns
- They/Them/It
We used stealth to exploit worm-boy's shitty security in his latest appearance. Also, hiding in the Heron General's sparks was technically stealth.
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- United States
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
If you are mentioning us driving the General, then you should also mention out mind heist too^^
I personally opposed the insight due to hierarchy concern but I think spying part is actually good in the insight. I mean we might have been recruited as more of a hidden information gatherer/spy but we haven't really been acting that role since the sect. our job description changed as soon as CRX decided to take ice lady diplomacy to her responsibility. We are now CRX'S diplomat. part of diplomacy is information gathering but we are past spying part of that and an carving that into our soul is only going to help us in our diplomacy, especially since our brand of diplomacy is based on sincerity more than power or wealth transfers. besides didn't we have a scene of CRX explicitly saying LQ should take a role more in light as a diplomat and connection point to weilu than skulking spy even before polar stuff. I think this was after we began the sect faction with the Wang scion.
CRX is a ducal heir not even 20 , her retinue will grow . the solution to the lack of a proper spy isn't to make her main diplomat double time as a spy. if nobody else in the retinue have spy talents find someone and add them to retinue. so that argument is pure nonsense.
CRX is a ducal heir not even 20 , her retinue will grow . the solution to the lack of a proper spy isn't to make her main diplomat double time as a spy. if nobody else in the retinue have spy talents find someone and add them to retinue. so that argument is pure nonsense.
I was rereading, and:
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Threads 278-Sea of Dreams 2 - Forge of Destiny
“I think going downward through the tunnel will be the safer trip.” “I wouldn’t call any of this safe,” Sixiang said dubiously. “I said ‘safer,’ not safe. (...)
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Now I want Ling Qi to help spark a Hill tribe cultural Renaissance because it'll piss off both Xia Ren and Kongyou.
I'd honestly be curious to find out his reaction. Word of Yrs is that he didn't know he'd gotten Qingge pregnant. She was 16 and he was, I believe, a year or two older. So they were both kids themselves at the time. Maybe he would have taken her with him if a spirit informed him of the pregnancy? Or maybe he would have run even faster? I'd like to find out.
And I'd also like to find out the reaction of his family. Yrs said that he's a member of the mortal side of Alingge's tribe. Maybe she is Qi's second or third cousin?
Also when I posted this on the discord Yrs gave it a thumbs up:
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My two cents, for whatever it's worth, is that the main thrust of the insight is in the last sentence. Community is built on mutual respect. Treat people like people, not obstacles to be maneuvered around, and expect them to show you the same courtesy. Obviously, if they insist on making themselves obstacles that changes things, but until then, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Actually, Bao Qian seems to be a good example of how this insight can work. He may be a merchant, but he explicitly rejects the stereotypical greedy merchant view of "treat everything as resources to be exploited". He legitimately is intrigued in the variety of perspectives and resources different groups of people have to offer, and enjoys enabling them to enrich each other. He's still a shrewd businessman, but he has a genuinely good relationship with his clients.
Actually, Bao Qian seems to be a good example of how this insight can work. He may be a merchant, but he explicitly rejects the stereotypical greedy merchant view of "treat everything as resources to be exploited". He legitimately is intrigued in the variety of perspectives and resources different groups of people have to offer, and enjoys enabling them to enrich each other. He's still a shrewd businessman, but he has a genuinely good relationship with his clients.
