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Yes, but now he's not in Lumeria, witch means his odds of dying to the locals are greatly reduced now.
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Prince Aladdin Quest (Disney Villains *Almost* Victorious)
- Thread starter TempestK
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- Crossover Fantasy
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And then the huns find him and try to kill him and take his horse.
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[X] Plan Drums and Guns, Satrapy Setup
Question @TempestK about what's going on China again but where's gongmeng city located cause shen did come from the north right and that's his capital. Also where's Shan yus current whereabouts is it more north west near Mongolia or more central China at the Yangtze river. And finally where's the resistance most fortified areas cause I know they are dispersed but where's there leadership usually located and where's the Hotspots for the rebels is it the south and Central China. Basically I want to know where's every big players bases of power cause I think shens base of power is at the yellow sea where he could fully utilize his fleets potential. Though I understand If you can't answer everything just tidbits would be enough. That I just love the worldbuilding here with the omakes and I just want to know what's happening In the middle kingdom.
Question @TempestK about what's going on China again but where's gongmeng city located cause shen did come from the north right and that's his capital. Also where's Shan yus current whereabouts is it more north west near Mongolia or more central China at the Yangtze river. And finally where's the resistance most fortified areas cause I know they are dispersed but where's there leadership usually located and where's the Hotspots for the rebels is it the south and Central China. Basically I want to know where's every big players bases of power cause I think shens base of power is at the yellow sea where he could fully utilize his fleets potential. Though I understand If you can't answer everything just tidbits would be enough. That I just love the worldbuilding here with the omakes and I just want to know what's happening In the middle kingdom.
Shan Yu is in hiding, last I saw, while he waits for his new phoenix familiar to grow up.
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You have no idea because you haven't sent any dedicated spies to the areas. All you get are the rumors and gossip carried by the caravans.
Fair point oh well I just hope this turn everything goes well that we can turn our eye east to China and help it recover not just cause both Mulan and the kung fu panda series were near and dear to my young self and i Iike to find the furious five and recruit them maybe pardon them if they are considered enemies to shen which I hope we ally with and change to a more Grey zone alignment if to keep China strong against the threats in Russia and the rest of Asia and be a good ally. But most importantly restart the silk road which irl was super profitable to our counterpart in persia so yeah that's basically it. I just love speculation and I love the worldbuilding here
FictionPack
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China has just been one massive ping ponging event. You kinda only want to grab popcorn and watch from afar and see what happens kind of thing.
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We have a lot on our plates already. With the potential war and the other groups we're involved in I don't know if we will be able spare any actions for China.
And as messed up as China has become I'm fine leaving it alone as they have no real interactions with us and aren't really likely to be a potential threat for a while since they are in a three way civil war.
Maybe if we get a handle on stuff around us we can do some spying and send the resistance some aid. But I have no idea when that would happen.
And as messed up as China has become I'm fine leaving it alone as they have no real interactions with us and aren't really likely to be a potential threat for a while since they are in a three way civil war.
Maybe if we get a handle on stuff around us we can do some spying and send the resistance some aid. But I have no idea when that would happen.
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Yeah. It's like, I'd love to have more of a role in what's going on in China or Western Europe, but frankly, Ababwa isn't that big or strong of a power, and we've got our hands full just worrying about Lemuria, the East India Company in the Indian Ocean in particular, and whatever random one-off DIsney villain sorcerors show up in our backyard.
Yeah we got a lot in our plate right now but then I realized if the E.I.T.C Is kicked out of the Indian Ocean they could very well go to China and start an earlier opium war against a far weaker China stuck in civil war they could very well swoop in and take southern China and build a base there at Hong Kong and get stronger from there. And then they could subvert many in the resistance to join there side to get better gear to fight the huns and shen and then beckett could very well become a kingmaker in China which Is not good for us. But yeah I know it's speculation but it did happen in real life E.I.T.C were a part of it so who knows what could happen
FictionPack
Monochromatic Ursine
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On the getting bigger angle we are kinda setting up to take Lemuria by force, one day maybe merge with Agrabah through marriage, and Xiang-Wu could very well become a protectorate of Ababwa.
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If we do I fear the clean up will be much much worse than when we took the north.
Those were just corrupt elites. Lemuria is outer gods and dark cults.
I'm pretty sure this was vetoed. Even if we get married we control Ababwa and she will control Agrabah. Or something to that effect.
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Monochromatic Ursine
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But in effect we would still have their military and economic might to call upon as applicable more so than a simple alliance would have.
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Oh, there would definitely be bonuses of some kind I'm sure.
But no merging the two kingdoms.
But no merging the two kingdoms.
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Jasmine will still effectively be the Sultana of Agrabah, and Aladdin will be the King of Ababwa. Their firstborn will be the ruler of Ababwa and their second-born will be the ruler of Agrabah. Merging the kingdoms likely won't happen if only because neither Jasmine nor Aladdin want to create an empire. Staying as two separate nations keeps them looking less threatening than if they were a unified whole, at least on paper. There's also the fact that merging the kingdoms would require a merging of the laws and the other faculties of the government.
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Even if it won´t actually merge the two kingdoms/sultanates into one massive empire, it´ll still create a bond that´s sorely needed in these trying times
But yeah, that means that Aladdin and Jasmine will have to have at least two kids or else the Agrabahnian throne will fall vacant after Jasmines death - at least the wording implies that we don´t have to observe any pesky linearity laws like "first-and-second-born SON", which is a relief
Considering that Jasmine is explicit heiress, I think we can assume male primogeniture at worst, not complete patrolinear inheritance
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Which would be better than strict patrilinearity, but still a bit annoying depending on the kids they got later on.
I am just in favor of absolute primogeniture, if anything.
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Yeah, it's pretty much the firstborn gets Ababwa, second born gets Agrabah, end of story. Then the resulting family lines will be sticking with that kingdom. Of course before things are absolutely set in stone if the firstborn wants Agrabah while the second wants Ababwa... well if they'll be a good fit for the kingdom Aladdin and Jasmine would be more than happy to revisit the arrangement.
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Yeah, best would be if the inheritance would be closer to meritocratically-organized - meaning the kid better suited to lead Agrabah would get that throne while the one better suited for Ababwah would get *That* throne. (both kids would still be of their throne´s blood, so "proper" inheritance would still be observed)
But before we can even think about dealing with all that, we first have to convince Jasmine of our sincere feelings for her and assure her that our wooings aren´t just attempts at landgrabs, so that she agrees to marrying us in the first place - that and dealing with any threat to either thrones decisively stabilize the region(s)
So yeah, lots of things to do before even THINKING of any possible inheritance issues
But before we can even think about dealing with all that, we first have to convince Jasmine of our sincere feelings for her and assure her that our wooings aren´t just attempts at landgrabs, so that she agrees to marrying us in the first place - that and dealing with any threat to either thrones decisively stabilize the region(s)
So yeah, lots of things to do before even THINKING of any possible inheritance issues
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Where exactly is Agrabah the city supposed to lies now again?
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There's a long chain of "ifs" built into this before it becomes relevant. Among other things, because the process of driving the Company out of the Indian Ocean when its main base of operations is Colombo and when apart from Captain Nemo's Nautilus no one else is really warring against them at sea or capacle of doing so in the short term is easier said than done. And if it ever is done, it's going to weaken the Company a lot, so them getting footholds in new places they aren't already established in will be even harder than it would be now.
Lurking_Badger
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Would it be possible to fight the E.I.T.C. using economics? We stop them from expanding trade to other countries, start trading with countries they do have influence in, and break up any monopolies that they have. We could even start funding smugglers to insure that they don't collect money from tariffs and sales. Anything to bleed their coffers dry that doesn't involve try to fight them at sea.
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This is absolutely something we can try to do, but we're going to be pecking away at them rather than finding This One Neat Trick that cripples them in just a year or two.