ooooooooooooooo, exciting!
gotterdammerung theme LETS GO

>it had conquered
well THAT bodes ominously for luvia, ophelia, waver and anyone else at clock tower rn worth caring about
 
It's well established that he'll save the children, but not the British children.

I imagine it was only late in the revolution that many revolutionaries stopped considering themselves to be British (after all, the initial aim was not actually independence, it takes time to internalize such changes).

Obviously we can't read his mind (not even if he was still alive), but I suspect Washington to have been one of them. He had been British for over 4 decades when the Revolution began for one.

So choosing to disregard British children is unlikely IMO
 
I imagine it was only late in the revolution that many revolutionaries stopped considering themselves to be British (after all, the initial aim was not actually independence, it takes time to internalize such changes).

Obviously we can't read his mind (not even if he was still alive), but I suspect Washington to have been one of them. He had been British for over 4 decades when the Revolution began for one.

So choosing to disregard British children is unlikely IMO

Washington's life becomes kind of hilarious when you realize that he literally started the French and Indian War (aka the Seven Years War), which then directly led into the American Revolution (the Stamp and Tea Acts were supposed to help pay off debts from the Seven Years War) and him becoming president of a new country.
 
Washington's life becomes kind of hilarious when you realize that he literally started the French and Indian War (aka the Seven Years War), which then directly led into the American Revolution (the Stamp and Tea Acts were supposed to help pay off debts from the Seven Years War) and him becoming president of a new country.

He was not alone in starting that war. Hell, the Seven Years War could feasibly have been called World War 1. I mean, it was a war, fought by multiple empires, on all inhabited continents and all seas. That is a world war.
 
He was not alone in starting that war. Hell, the Seven Years War could feasibly have been called World War 1. I mean, it was a war, fought by multiple empires, on all inhabited continents and all seas. That is a world war.

I meant that he was literally in charge of the forces that fired the first shots of the war in 1754 at the Battle of Jumonville Glen, which became the Battle of Ft. Necessity when things went sideways.
 
I meant that he was literally in charge of the forces that fired the first shots of the war in 1754 at the Battle of Jumonville Glen, which became the Battle of Ft. Necessity when things went sideways.

Yes, true. Looking it over. This war was ongoing for about 2 years already and turned in the 7 year war when Britain declared war on the French Empire in 1756
 
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There's lots of people it could be, yet so many are sure of Washington.

There are only so many people that are 1) qualified to be summoned as Ruler, 2) was a leader, and 3) had experience with a bad winter in Pennsylvania.

Valley Forge and the Battle of Trenton are some of the most famous incidents of the American Revolution.
 
There's lots of people it could be, yet so many are sure of Washington.
Hmm. A ruler is usually a saint of some sort, but the true requirement is a sense of impartiality and a lack of a desire for the Holy Grail. Ol George was impartial in the context of American internal politics (and only to a point, given he was in favor of the centralizing 1787 Constitutional Convention from the beginning), but outside of that, he favored Britain in foreign affairs over France, continued the settlement of the west at the expense of Native Americans, and overall favored the interests of the United States above all else. Which, well, he was the first president of the US, and actively fought for American independence, of course he would. (Washington was also profoundly racist, as to be expected of an 18th century plantation owner.) Whether Washington would prove to be an impartial overseer in the context of the HGW, or whether he would seek the Grail for himself, is an open question. I could see him potentially seeking a wish to ensure American peace and power forevermore, for example. He could be a Ruler candidate, but he could also not be.

As for the Ruler we do have... he's said that he's been a tyrant at times. I'm not sure if Washington ever saw himself as a tyrant. He rarely used the presidential veto, and attempted to find a peaceful resolution to the Whiskey Rebellion, for example. (I wouldn't call Ol George a tyrant; a slaver, a settler, a backstabber, yes, but he wasn't an autocrat.) This Ruler is familiar with the snows of Pennsylvania, he wears a hat and coat, he wields a saber (not swing around Artoria by the legs, presumably), he is a he... I don't know, actually. The tyrant modifier is messing things up here.
 
Hmm. A ruler is usually a saint of some sort, but the true requirement is a sense of impartiality and a lack of a desire for the Holy Grail. Ol George was impartial in the context of American internal politics (and only to a point, given he was in favor of the centralizing 1787 Constitutional Convention from the beginning), but outside of that, he favored Britain in foreign affairs over France, continued the settlement of the west at the expense of Native Americans, and overall favored the interests of the United States above all else. Which, well, he was the first president of the US, and actively fought for American independence, of course he would. (Washington was also profoundly racist, as to be expected of an 18th century plantation owner.) Whether Washington would prove to be an impartial overseer in the context of the HGW, or whether he would seek the Grail for himself, is an open question. I could see him potentially seeking a wish to ensure American peace and power forevermore, for example. He could be a Ruler candidate, but he could also not be.

reads the above

slowly pans and looks at Qin Shi Huang and Moriarty


Somehow, I don't think any of what you said will be a problem. Especially considering that apparently Robert E. Lee is canonically capable of being summoned as Ruler (and Avenger).

As for his foreign policy, Washington actually favored "friendly neutrality" because the US had existed for all of 5 minutes and he wanted to keep it that way. And it's understandable how he might have been a little friendlier to Britain because 1) he was British and 2) they just got finished with the Revolution and didn't want them coming back for round 2 just yet. This would end up influencing US foreign policy to be more isolationist leaning up until the 1900s and why the US didn't get involved with the French Revolution.

The US didn't start adopting interventionist policies until the 1940s.
 
Actually, the Uncle Sam post makes me wonder if it could be Lincoln. The hat being mentioned feels notable, and we know he can be summoned as a Berserker, so maybe a Ruler could work?
 
Except the most notable battle of the Civil War in Pennsylvania was Gettysburg, and that took place in early July. So, the mention of winter kinda rules Abe out for me.
The Gettysburg Address was given in November of 1863, and it is also likely Lincoln was coming down with disease (looks to be smallpox) as/after delivering it. That sounds like a hefty amount of bad memories imo.
 
[X] [The Calamity of Ayako]

Rin's already functionally doomed, so why not focus on Best Girl instead?
 
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