Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- Crossover Fantasy
[X] Uju32
- Location
- washington
I mean they aren't fine as far as magic is concerned its fairly similar as far as politics go though its not the same. Also you know how magic is at least somewhat based around perspective why its banned to kill humans with it is at least partly because to do something with magic you need to believe that it makes sense that its right. Thus making psychopaths.
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Just pointing out potions are very fast for Molly to make thanks to her speed boosting charm. Also in the Alchemy path potions take a day per level to make, but that is reduced by a full day per rank you have above the potions rating, if that reduces it to under an day it fall to several hours.
So Molly can make a 1 dot potion in about hour max, 30+ minutes really. Not really relevant but we could hard buy Alchemy up to 3, then Molly could fire out 1 dot potions in a few minutes so long as she has a fully stocked ingredient supply handy.
Votes are tied so far
- Location
- Germany
[X] Usum's plan, get line of sight on the van, put a spirit in it and make it stop working to get them off their loop
If we don't stop the van and talk, he knows we are in the city, and can demand same things.
The idea of stopping the van is to do it before he knows you are in the city, make it look like his van just broke down in a supreme act of bad luck. That is why if you are going to do it you have to do it instead of talking not in addition to it.
[X] Answer the phone the next time it calls, get some answers as to what Broken Seeker wants before engaging, maybe you can shake him up
-[X]Give Harry some of your hair to track you, just in case
-[X]Have Clippy pull up a map of the local electrical substations for Chicago, find the one for the local district, fly over and HMP a key transformer: 1m
-[X]Give Harry some of your hair to track you, just in case
-[X]Have Clippy pull up a map of the local electrical substations for Chicago, find the one for the local district, fly over and HMP a key transformer: 1m
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- Location
- Right Where I Am
[X] Usum's plan, get line of sight on the van, put a spirit in it and make it stop working to get them off their loop
-[X] Use Harry's veil as a crown focus for a question "How can this be improved to hide magical emanations from the senses of a naagloshii known as Broken Seeker"
--[X] Use Occult Excellency to better explain the results to Harry
-[X] Use Harry's veil as a crown focus for a question "How can this be improved to hide magical emanations from the senses of a naagloshii known as Broken Seeker"
--[X] Use Occult Excellency to better explain the results to Harry
So, to consider essence economy.
The last status update on our essence was two updates ago at "From Sea to Shore "
We need 1 more mote to hmp the car.
We need 2 motes for shintai, 1 mote for Viridian Exoskeleton 1 for steel skin, 1 for mhm (to get Izzy and Alex out of the way). That's 5 motes minimum. We can activate ATB with willpower, and if we want to use hellscry Chakra to help us pierce naagloshii's veils (if he uses any), that's a total of 6 motes. Worst case scenario this leaves us with 1 mote to spend. That's 4 combat turns of melee excellency. I am doubtful we can deal with a naagloshii in that time frame.
Best case scenario is that we get a secret to replenish essence, in which case we have 12 combat turns of excellency. That should be enough. Based on this, let me hedge my bets.
[X] Usum's plan, get line of sight on the van, put a spirit in it and make it stop working to get them off their loop
-[X] Use Harry's veil as a crown focus for a question "How can this be improved to hide magical emanations from the senses of a naagloshii known as Broken Seeker"
--[X] Use Occult Excellency to better explain the results to Harry
-[X] If Crown data doesn't give us essence, ask Harry or dad to share whatever arcane secret they can to do so.
Michael should have some secrets he can tell without breaking confidence. Like contents of the Dragon's hoard or something like this.
The last status update on our essence was two updates ago at "From Sea to Shore "
We can probably assume that it's at that level still (no time for bleach bath). I have to admit that my plan is not very feasible. We spend 1 mote on the Crown, and one mote on the occult excellency. That's 8 motes we are left with. If the information we get is enough to regenerate essence, that's 10 motes, if not 8.
We need 1 more mote to hmp the car.
We need 2 motes for shintai, 1 mote for Viridian Exoskeleton 1 for steel skin, 1 for mhm (to get Izzy and Alex out of the way). That's 5 motes minimum. We can activate ATB with willpower, and if we want to use hellscry Chakra to help us pierce naagloshii's veils (if he uses any), that's a total of 6 motes. Worst case scenario this leaves us with 1 mote to spend. That's 4 combat turns of melee excellency. I am doubtful we can deal with a naagloshii in that time frame.
Best case scenario is that we get a secret to replenish essence, in which case we have 12 combat turns of excellency. That should be enough. Based on this, let me hedge my bets.
[X] Usum's plan, get line of sight on the van, put a spirit in it and make it stop working to get them off their loop
-[X] Use Harry's veil as a crown focus for a question "How can this be improved to hide magical emanations from the senses of a naagloshii known as Broken Seeker"
--[X] Use Occult Excellency to better explain the results to Harry
-[X] If Crown data doesn't give us essence, ask Harry or dad to share whatever arcane secret they can to do so.
Michael should have some secrets he can tell without breaking confidence. Like contents of the Dragon's hoard or something like this.
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The opposite.
If we dont stop the van before calling him, he has no reason to believe that we know where he is. And because he doesnt, he's less anxious, not more. He doesnt send any of the half a dozen skinwalkers in bird form to keep an eye on the surroundings and maintain a perimeter. He doesnt worry that Harry running away from his watcher is an indication that Molly has called him.
His van stops, someone as paranoid as Broken Seeker will get even more twitchy.
And critically, being under a veil doesnt actually stop your phone call being audible to people walking past, or with superhuman senses of smell or hearing; Murphy, a bog standard mortal, detected Molly under a veil that way.
Molly rubbed at her wrists, wincing. "Um. Sergeant? How did you know I was there?"
"Floorboards creaking when no one was standing on them," I said.
"Your deodorant," Murphy said.
"Your tongue stud clicked against your teeth once," I said.
"I felt some air move a few minutes ago," Murphy said. "Didn't feel like a draft."
Molly swallowed and her face turned pink. "Oh."
"But we didn't see you, did we, Murph?"
Murphy shook her head. "Not even a little."
A little humiliation and ego deflation, now and then, is good for apprentices. Mine sighed miserably.
"Floorboards creaking when no one was standing on them," I said.
"Your deodorant," Murphy said.
"Your tongue stud clicked against your teeth once," I said.
"I felt some air move a few minutes ago," Murphy said. "Didn't feel like a draft."
Molly swallowed and her face turned pink. "Oh."
"But we didn't see you, did we, Murph?"
Murphy shook her head. "Not even a little."
A little humiliation and ego deflation, now and then, is good for apprentices. Mine sighed miserably.
Essentially every major mundane sense besides sight will pick up on people under a veil. And all of Seeker's coven are in the form of animals with great non-visual senses.
Did you know that turkey vultures have a great sense of smell? And can detect dead bodies from 8 miles away?
To quote BronzeTongue, measure twice, cut once.
Call, then use that information to determine your next course of action.
Dont act first and risk detection from a bunch of people with superhuman sense.
We are known to have great scrying abilities. If we are I the city it's reasonable to assume it'll believe that we know where our friends are. It can scry its minions. It would assume we can do so with ours.
Harry just deliberately broke contact with the dude who was trailing him. THEN the naagloshii's van breaks down.
I doubt the naagloshii believes in coincidence.
1)We are not generally known to have great scrying capabilities.
Some people know, like Harry, Michael, Lydia, Gard and Mab. Its not common knowledge, and we've gone to some lengths to keep it that way. Certainly not "naagloshii should know this" type knowledge.
And the fact that two of three major cases he knows of(Kattrin, the Will of Kakuri, the Walker) involved a Valkyrie(Gard) who as a group, are reputed to have foresight/prediction type abilities, and work for Odin whose reputation for foresight is even greater, muddles the waters further.
2) It would assume no such thing.
It can scry its minions after investing significant effort in modifying them into mobile broadcast vans.
It has our friends; it can see there is no magic of any sort on them.
And Im not discounting the possibility of there being wards on that van to block scrying and tracking magic, like the ones that prevented him from scrying Skinwalker Bob once we got him into the Raith estate.
He has had the time to plan this, after all, and he has the knowledge to do it.
Shagnasty did that when he kidnapped Thomas in canon after all. Hence Harry couldnt find him.
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Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
[X] Answer the phone the next time it calls, get some answers as to what Broken Seeker wants before engaging, maybe you can shake him up
-[X]Give Harry some of your hair to track you, just in case
-[X]Have Clippy pull up a map of the local electrical substations for Chicago, find the one for the local district, fly over and HMP a key transformer: 1m
-[X]Give Harry some of your hair to track you, just in case
-[X]Have Clippy pull up a map of the local electrical substations for Chicago, find the one for the local district, fly over and HMP a key transformer: 1m
Marcone knows, and it's likely Marcone's people know. Parts of White Court certainly know.
This (Harry broke contact) means that Naaglsohii already knows we are in town. Further, Harry breaking from his trail indicates that Harry knew he was being watched, and that we have enough information that he needs to break contact. If we don't know where hostages are, it makes more sense for Harry to pretend he doesn't know he's being watched. If he isn't bothering, it means confrontation is imminent, which means we know where Broken Seeker is.
Marcone doesnt know.
He knows that we have some sort of relationship with spirits after the Kattrin affair, which is not the same thing as scrying magic.
Gard should know, and she works for Marcone at the moment. That doesnt mean that she spread it around.
Lara suspects. She doesnt know.
And she sure as hell wasnt talking given that she has traitors in her own Court.
No.
Harry is a professional private investigator in addition to being a Warden sub-commander in time of war.
Being watched and followed are occupational hazards.
His noticing a tail and doing his best to lose it isnt a significant factor for Seeker.
Its when you couple that with a prepared van suddenly breaking down that it becomes a Sign of shenanigans being about.
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- Location
- Germany
Lara is not stupid.
She gave us vague info about the infiltration of the Winter Court.
Hours later the events of Halloween happen, Maeve gets spiritually de-wormed and suddenly Winter owes us favors.
It doesn't take a genius to see divination in that series of events.
My apologies.
I meant to do this yesterday, but other things got in the way.
Here are the Essence totals since update 47
There is 1m missing between 14/15 and 12/15; Im guessing QM error.
So we should currently have 11/15m.
Point of order:
MHM's damage is based on our temporary Willpower rating. And its our only ranged attack atm, while the naagloshii has ranged spells. We also need IPM up and running, because its canon that seeing the reality of the naagloshii under the Sight fucked Harry up badly in canon, so we want it running just in case.
Current temp Willpower is 8/9.
So ATB is going to have to have to be activated with Essence, while IPM is activated with Willpower.
That way, MHM's damage rating doesnt drop below 7.
Marcone knows. Gard explicitely told him:
He "noticed the tail" within minutes of us coming in contact with Hank. Broken Seeker is not stupid and should be able to put two and two together.
We do not have or use Sight, though. And given how strong Hank was, the only way to use MHM in combat would be to add Occult Excellency to the mix. MHM's primary purpose here should be to get Izzy and Alec out of the way.
Plus, MHM inflicts bashing damage, which we cannot upgrade to lethal or aggravated. Broken Seeker and likely its followers would shrug it off.
1) Lara is making no such assumptions in a setting where she knows that the Archive and oracular spirits exist.
And where the White God's faction will sometimes send prophecies to people, which was a plot point in Death Masks.
That does not in and of itself suggest that Molly can use divination, or that her divination is especially good.
She knows that Molly uses spirits; Kattrin's car was possessed when her assistant tried to buy it, she rode in Black Rider and saw it shrug off an attempt at hexing it, and if she talked to Leinth, she'd know we used a spirit on Greene's computer.
So far, everything she's seen of Molly's information gathering abilities can be ascribed to spirits.
She has no evidence of Molly being a diviner.
And she isnt going to assume it, given the company Molly keeps.
2) Lara doesnt actually know that Molly didnt know about Maeve's Nfection beforehand.
For all she knows, nothing on the note that she passed to Molly was news to her.
Molly certainly gave no indication one way or the other.
- Location
- Germany
Okay, true.
But the seperation is purely technical.
Wether Molly learns things from spirits or scrys herself makes no praktical difference, the result is still Molly having access to relativly secret and protected information by supernatural means.
Possible, but with all Lara knows and has survived I'm guessing she'd rather overestimate us than underestimate us.
And we did definitly show that we knew about a Nemesis infection that nobody else saw before, or that everyone who knew kept perfect secrecy about.