Ah right, thought it was a different one for some reason
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Ah right, thought it was a different one for some reason
Sinner Boiling Stare costs 1m per activation, and rolls Willpower against a difficulty of the targets Stamina +2.
Not really useful in this scenario
Incarna-tier spirit.
I doubt we've seen everything one of them can do.
We hold an advantage in the water, but I have strong doubts about definitive statements of that nature.
I did say that Molly could take him, if they were both fresh and she could stop him from escaping.
But she cant stop him from escaping atm.
Nor does she enjoy the degree of capability overmatch where she can guarantee being able to take him if she's injured, or low on Essence, or having to deal with his backup at the same time.
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I know you're talking about alchemy.
Mirror treatment is explicitly not actually indestructible, and superglue is literally removed with WD-40.
These are things meant to deal with lower-level mobs, not a boss monster.
Not to mention that, going from canon, we're talking about a combat shapeshifter with a demonstrated range of everything from a ferret to a car-sized spider. Something with demonstrated Agg Soak, like when it soaked Warden Captain Luccio's fire lance at pointblank range with no more than singed hair.
I stand by my assessment. None of those things would work here.
A fight comes down to shintai, demonblade and Exalted charms.
Yes, Incarna is a broad category of spirits of cosmic significance.
No, Bob does not have the cosmic significance to be Incarna. He's either a Jaggling, or a very powerful Gaffling.
Mothers may be Celestines, but if they are? Angels and archangels are probably off the scale.
Bob (and note that I specifically included Evil Bob in this) is an ancient keeper of secrets. A spirit for whose knowledge wars could and likely have been fought. In terms of cosmic significance he is certainly no less than a naagloshii.
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You overestimate Bob greatly.
The naagloshii was a literal divine messenger. Mab is the CEO of Winter and commander of Earth's defenses.
Yama Kings rule sections of the Thousand Hells.
Bob is a spirit of knowledge.
His primary advantage being that he's spent the last half millennium working for and with wizards. Thats a lot of magic-specific experience and knowledge, but not the metaphysical significance.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Huh, never thought of it before, but what kind of merits could we give Bob using VEE? There's got to be some good stuff he's eligible for, right?
You put vastly more importance in "literal divine messanger" than it deserves. A reminder that valkyries are also literal divine messengers Naagloshii's power comes from the ability to steal what they eat, i.e. there's a good reason to believe that most of their fearsome might comes from stolen mortal power (which is likely the cause of their fall in the first place).
Bob knows the secrets of the cocmos to quite possibly the greater degree than naagloshii does, or did initially. It knows the significance of Halloween, the secret to killing Immortals, and I am fairly sure Evil Bob knew how to use Darkhallow. Bob the spirit could make himself equal to Mother Winter and establish his own court using that knowledge - that's how the courts were made, remember? In a ritual similar to darkhallow. Don't underestimate the skull.
Well, True Love is probably something he'd want. And maybe stuff that boosts willpower and preserves him as his own being? Oh, and a body.
He is a spirit so you cannot give him physical merits, but other than that the sky's the limit (well 6 points is the limit but you get the idea).
How do Shattered Avatar merit and Avatar-related merits in general work in Dresden Files? I mean, on one hand, there are no Avatars in Dresdenverse (as applied to mortals and most spirits). On the other, mantles are kinda-sorta like that. Would Shattered Avatar allow someone to slowly create their own mantle? And on the third tentacle, reclaiming some sort of ancient sundered power seems appropriate for an Exvs. story.
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Avatar merits do not exist as they have to do with a part of the mechanics that has not been used in the crossover.
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I mean they could probably wish for a better body couldn't they? We know for a fact that they can get in things that have you know mobility. Not that we want them to have it just wondering why thats not possible?
I am guessing that Avatar Background as a way to artificially create mages / wizards / mantle holders is also a no go?
The concept an an Avatar does not exist so yeah, not applicable.
Hmm... Sphere Natural? I could see it at least applying to path practitioners to upgrade their path into a full on sphere of magic, and possibly work backwards from there as a general boost to make them full wizards. Not sure about those without a gift in the first place.
Sphere natural applies to people who already have spheres, that is to say wizards. Trying to make a minor practitioner into a full wizard is not beyond the scope of a Exaltation, but it is more the domain of artifice or sorcery than simple charms, even powerful ones.
Solars get to do it with 4 dot charm You Can Be More. I can see why Infernals won't be able to do it - we are more about transhumanism and posthumanism and turning humans into demons, but turning someone into a full wizard is absolutely within the scope of a charms' power.
To be honest if you guys were playing a Solar I would probably house rule out that Charm because magic works differently in this verse, there are no Sleepers to Awaken, everyone has magic, it's just that the baseline is so low. Moreover the break point into major talent, wizard is about having a talent broad and deep enough that you can do anything you put your mind to (buy any sphere) as long as you put the effort in. So to make someone qualitatively better at magic, to get them over that hurdle is not just a refinement or enhancement in how they use power, it's putting more fuel on the fire, a lot more.
Vote closed.
[x] Just the Skinwalker and the connection to framing Harry
Cards close to the chest. If Lara doesn't like it, she can go suck on a lemon.
Nvm
Hmm, at least you had no chances of your vote winning?
...Yeah,
is right.
Arc 7 Post 17: Secrets Shared
Secrets Shared
31th of October 2006 A.D.
Answers are as smooth as cream on your tongue, but there is still so much you don't know... Perhaps some of it could be found out though.
Gain 2 Essence (Secret discovered) -> Now at 9/12
Only a fool would trust Lara Raith to do the right thing, that is much is stamped on every line of her too perfect face, it shines in in the depths of her graveyard eyes. But like it or not, trust her or not, she is here, in the heart of the White Court's power, uncrowned queen of one of the major factions not just of Chicago but the world. Lara Raith will do what is right... for Lara Raith. "How long do you have...?"
The three of you withdraw to her office, a sanctum as imposing as it is remote. For one it's windowless, illuminated only by the harsh glare of incandescent bulbs, or, you note old fashioned lanterns unlit by the wall. The desk is heavy as a rampart without giving so much as a nod to the usual aesthetic of the manor. All aground are not hardwood shelves with occult tomes bound in creaking overs or scrolls of parchment, but filing cabinets, lots and lots of filing cabinets.
At the very least Lara has comfortable chairs for her guests as you tell the story chronologically as and how you know it: starting with Gorfel showing up in Illinois one one of the Ways that lead to Nevada, next to a military base of all things, how something had lured Detective Greene away from his home under false pretenses promising information only to kill him outside his home then butcher him for the cameras disguised as Harry, almost taking Harry off the board for the museum battle, though it did not act directly in defense of Katrina's schemes. The very idea of fighting the naagloshii at the same time as the bloody possessed U-boat makes your stomach clench...
Then you remember something else, almost faded to insignificance compared to his later bloody death, someone had beaten up the detective, he blamed Harry's 'thugs', but really it could have been a shapeshifter
"Why was he staking out the wizard's apartment?" Lara asks, face scrunched into a frown, a cute one of course.
"He'd had run ins with Harry before even..." You take a deep breath as something you had not thought about in a long time floats to the surface. "He held me for questioning over what happened at Splattercon, it was this whole thing I don't think it's connected..."
"Humor me," Lara prods, ignoring her brother's annoyed look
Well you did decide to have a good relation with her and it's not like you have to give her all the gory details. "It was fetches, fear eaters..."
"I'm familiar." She nods slowly, more to herself than to any of the rest of you. "The note I shared with you... fetches were among the winter fey who acted most erratically. Given that the most senior of them was recently executed by his mistress it seems at least that crack at least has frozen over."
Though you and Thomas manage to keep your expressions from showing any sign of recognition Lydia shifts a little in her seat, hardly a tell, but more than enough for the likes of the woman before you..
Lost 1 Essence (Subterfuge Excellency) -> Now at 8/12/
"You had something to do with it then?" She waves off your reply when you open your mouth. "Oh don't bother denying it, that was my second or third guess anyway. I realize you are already showing quite a bit of trust here so I thought it fair to respond in kind." A sly smile lights up her face. "I'm not even going to ask you were you know enough to back trace 'the Great One' from. In any case the servants of Winter do not generally slaughter people at public venues, it is a bad look for the guarantors of the Accords hence why I would mark it as odd."
"I thought the Accords do not have spirit only the letter?" Lydia asks, bemused.
"Politics spins eternal, more reliable than the turning of the heavens," Lara gives a tired smile that invites one to join in
In site of yourself you are starting to feel a little better about the decision to trust her. "It is likely your own organization has been infiltrated. Even leaving aside that Hall knew where we were to meet an elder of the Court was send to kill Sarah Greene, which would have hidden both her and her husband's connection to the White Court."
"That did seem overkill at the time, like cracking an egg with a sledgehammer," she muses "I thought it was just Madrigal being snippy..."
She knew... on the way between from brain to mouth the words die unspoken. Of course she knew Molly, monster remember. Just because she is a clever and well spoken one does not change that. One some level you suppose you should feel flattered that she is being this frank.
"Do you two want to deal with my dear cousin once I catch up with him?"
Lydia looks inclined to agree, but this is your show for better or for worse. Do you want to get even more in b... connected to Lara and her interests in order to learn more of the darker powers moving all around?
[] Yes, accept her offer
[] No, you do not want to be tangled in the doings of the White Court
OOC: With this the Lara part of Halloween will end
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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I can't see what we would get out of it. We don't currently have any charms to enslave him or harvest his body.
taovkool
Forever Gone
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- The Library, Department of General Works
[] No, you do not want to be tangled in the doings of the White Court
Tempted to just let Lara deal with that. But we've already made a whole lot of changes that I'm not sure if the coming Madrigal fight would stay the same as in canon.
What if she got juiced up with Outsider steroid and got super buff? That's the sort of boss fight shit that Molly need to handle.
Tempted to just let Lara deal with that. But we've already made a whole lot of changes that I'm not sure if the coming Madrigal fight would stay the same as in canon.
What if she got juiced up with Outsider steroid and got super buff? That's the sort of boss fight shit that Molly need to handle.
Answers, she is offering Molly a chance to interrogate someone who might be involved in some kind of plot against her, one of her relatives no less. This is Lara being very accommodating, for what it's worth.
taovkool
Forever Gone
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- The Library, Department of General Works
[X] Yes, accept her offer
Oh. Okay, then. Let's see how deep this rabbit hole goes.