Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Feb 4, 2023 at 8:13 AM, finished with 100 posts and 11 votes.

  • [X]Plan Codex
    -[X] Rules: Governance
    --[X]Golden rule. Dont be an asshole
    --[X][Internal]: Guest right principles towards other members. Disputes adjudicated by mutually agreed arbitrator or random lot drawing of three people. Penalties are financial, duties and restitution where possible.
    --[X][Vampire Feeding]: If necessary, then nonlethal . Exception may be made in fight for ones life
    --[X][Leadership]Election. Meetings may be called by three people or Diplomat. Molly reserves right to intervene
    --[X][Exit Procedures]: At-will, peacefully. Lethal or premeditated harm to a member, or willful subversion of a standing order is grounds for expulsion
    -[X] Other
    --[X][Medical] Medical screening by Molly and Lydia. Free and lowcost clinics for routine care, ER for emergencies. All else ask Molly, including hard to obtain/expensive pharmaceuticals.
    --[X][Reintegration]Have Sarah get personal details from those who want it so we can work on establishing/reestablishing legal ID trail
    -[X]Jade Dogs Financials: $100,000
    --[X][New <Recruits/Infrastructure/Medical/Entertainment> Spending]: $10,000
    --[X][Fund transfer]: $15,000 cash + $75,000 checking account, debit cards with treasurer. $3000 daily ATM withdrawal limit: $90,000.
    --[X][Personal Allowance]: 9x ghouls + 3x Whampires @ $200/month(100 base, 100 hazard) + 6x others @ $100/month: $3000/month
    --[X][Food]: 9x ghouls (x2 multiplier) + 3x Whampires (x1 multiplier) + 6x mortals(x1 multiplier) at 300/month: $8100/month
    --[X][Transport]CTA monthly bus/rail passes for 18: $75x18: $1350/month.
    --[X][Communication]Cellphones: $550/month
    [X] Plan "I was made for this" v 1.1
    -[X] Leadership excellency, and others as appropriate
    -[X][Rules]
    --[X]Golden rule. Dont be an asshole
    --[X] (Definition) Molly's people include not just those who serve her directly but also those who are under her protection and any companies that she owns and the things or people that are under her control.
    --[X] (General rules of behavior) Based on guest rights, those who seek Molly's protection should not seek to endanger themselves or others under her protection, should not seek to provoke or endanger others without a cause, should, as they can, work on imrpoving their lives
    --[X] (Feeding/Addiction) Those who have special needs that harm others, are required to cause as little harm to others as is reasonably possible and may only cause permanent harm as a last resort. The exception is combat, where they may use their best judgment depending on the situation. If there is an alternative that does not cause harm to others or themselves, they are required to use that to feed. If at all possible, feeding on volunteers, with appropriate compensation, monetary or otherwise, should be prioritized
    --[X] (Direct employment) Those people who want a direct employment with Molly will be obliged to honestly and sincerely work for the benefit of Molly and her people/Company. They must not betray Molly or her people. They can slack off, but not to the point that Molly and her people suffers for it.
    --[X] (Leaving) If people are unhappy, they can always just leave, Molly will make no move to hold them and give them 3 months time to find an alternative, in which they must follow Molly's rules to avail the protection.
    --[X] (Promotion) Institute a system of social credit, where initiative and self-organization are encouraged. The promotions to leadership positions should be based on a mix between competence and popularity, with as many democratic principles as possible
    --[X] (Meetings) Meetings may be called by three people or Diplomat
    --[X] (Interactions) encourage socialization, helping each other
    --[X] (Exile) If they break the laws, they are kicked out and are no longer under Molly's protection. They may appeal this with Molly who acts as the final judge.
    -[X][Means]
    --[X] Put cyberdevils and Thomas on setting up an official charity with a mission statement of reintroducing those outside of mortal society into it.
    --[X] Provisionally set 50% of the funds we have for this activity. Reevaluate the needed cash on the ongoing basis. Money is handled by the treasurer with the help of cyberdevils.
    --[X] Do a census. Get information about who the people who join are. Have cyberdevils run down their details. Ask Sarah Greene for help too. Interview people with All Things Betray on, and running excellencies as needed to find if there are any unrepentant (or unable to control themseles) serial killers / rapists, or others who are willing and able to do those under your protection harm
    --[X] Gather information on what the people need. Medical conditions, food allergies, who has lice, etc. Get someone to handle bulk purchasing necessary supplies: food, hygienic ones, clothes, heaters for the coming winter, entertainment
    --[X] Check above ground to find closest warehouse that is still an area of urban blight. See about purchasing it for the charity.
    --[X] Ask father Forthill and brother Devisimar if they, or other members of their respectful organizations will be interested in helping and/or ministering to the people in the Underground, under your protection and with your help, including monetary help. Churches have lone experience with charities.
    --[X] Start purchasing cheap but sturdy mobile phones. They will be distributed around to those who accepted your offer of help
    ---[X] Put cyberdevils into the phones of those that need constant personal assistance, to act as minders. Don't use too many (limit to 3 at most)
    --[X] Talk to Bob and Order of Cauldron practitioners about anti-withdrawal potions, and how one could bulk-produce them
 
Arc 5 Post 30: Lawgiver
Lawgiver

16th of September 2006 A.D.

There aren't enough chairs for all the newcomers, but the old stone benches will do in a pinch, once the site of impatient commuters waiting for the next train, now the seat of people listening raptly to hear what the next station of their lives might be, ghoul, vampire, mortal, even the baby had turned her head to face you, as if drawn by the light of flames unseen upon your brow. Firstly you speak aloud of truths Deborah, Dean, Theodora, and James had heard only in whispered rumors that there are more than just humans in these tunnels, hunting in the dark, but then in even tone you make it clear that it does not have to be so, tis not some cruel 'law of nature' that would make God's children make kine of one another, but the malice of those who would give false council and raise themselves upon a throne of cruelty wrought.

"To each of us us given to bear a burden in our lives, some are lighter and some heavier, but none are more than we can bear, not if we have friends to help us carry it along the way. It is in my power to help lift the burden of Hunger and need from the shoulders of those of the ghoul-kin or the White Court." your gaze travels across the three vampires, sitting together almost back to back, as though expecting the axe to fall at any moment. "But that gift is worth nothing if you do not also choose not to give in to the darker instincts of your nature. For making that choice I thank you."

Just as you had intended this is not what they had been expecting, So you take advantage of that surprise ruthlessly, setting down rules for when it one might feed and how, only with permission and without permanent harm...Save in battle, the demon in your mind points out, and you cannot deny the point so you repeat it. On the goes, the formalities of guest right, familiar enough to those of the unseen world, but strange indeed to people born and raised in the modern world, of how breaking those rules would lead to exile, but also of parting freely chosen. Elections you leave as is save that now either a group of three or Sarah can call them.

"Above all else remember the golden rule..." you say in closing.

"Do onto others as you would others do onto you?" Paul, the vampire who had accepted the deal in the name of his fellows interjects.

"Let's just go with don't be an asshole, you guys have better things to worry about than whether it's the positive, the negative or the empathic form. We all know what an asshole looks like right?"

A laugh ripples through the whole company. Of course they do, no one ends up in Undertown by choice.

***​

20th of September 2006 A.D.

Of course being in charge isn't just about sitting speeches, it is also about driving a mother and her baby first to the supermarket to get some warm and sturdy clothes then to a clinic to get some already delayed shots, it is setting up the checking account and debit cards as well as finding out what meds Dean needs and getting them to him. It really shouldn't be that easy to get a pharmacist to hand you those without a doctor's note even at a compounding pharmacy, but in this case you are glad the system is glitching. Getting those who want it reintegrated into society is not going to be a natter of a few days, even a few weeks.

Essence at 9/12

Truth be told you are a little surprised when all three vampires take you up on the offer, though perhaps it shouldn't have. The White Court are fundamentally social beings, they need others to survive. Two hundred dollars a month are more than enough to get them all the movie seats to horror flicks they could want, though it hadn't just been the lack of money that had stopped them before, but a lack of control.

As for the work on the station itself most of the work you do this month is on the electrical grid so people without uncanny senses can walk around unhindered. It costs a good fifteen thousand dollars to fix the wiring, though in exchange you realize what has been powering the sickly lights you had found when you first stumbled over this place... Porter himself. An elemental moving around near a crossing of the Dragon Lines is a bit like a moving a magnet though an electrical field, not that it causes a current exactly, more like it's a proto-spell, a kind of shaped magic that is sensitive to will, in this case to the will of Adam and his gang as well as others who lingered around the station. Since they did not neat more than the poor and flickering lighting that is all they got.

Lost 115,000 Dollars (Jade Dog payment+rewiring the station)

That now raises the question of how you want to power the place, you could let it work off of the ley line as it had, there is more than enough power in here, but you worry about how safe it is to have the inhabitants define the lighting parameters when one of those inhabitants is a baby. On the other hand a generator would provide reliable power without any wibbly wobbly magic, but you would lose the chance to study the pattern which had converted the power to the ley lines to electricity. You could also get Harry in here to see if you can preserve the arcane lighting in some rooms while using a generator in others, but while you have no doubt he'd do it something tells you he would balk at being paid for his time and he already has so much to worry about.

What do you do?

[] Leave the magic-to-electricity connectors in place (can study later; lights and potentially other electrical applications at no cost)

[] Plug in a generator (6,000 Dollars+500 Dollars/month to operate)

[] Fetch Harry for a second opinion


OOC: As Molly does not have a crafting charm or enchanting she does not understand enough about how this works to do more than let it continue working or rip it out, but she got enough successes to understand that the effect is probably mutable and unpredictable given that is arose accidentally
 
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[X] Fetch Harry for a second opinion

Might as well get Harry something to do aside from hunting spooks. Probably better to pay him as well. I've never really liked Harry's low quality life when he could have done so much better.
 
[] Plug in a generator (10,000 Dollars+500 Dollars/month to operate)
This is a bit pricey, DP. Even a very high end 22kw diesel generator capable of providing more power than a typical American home uses is only going to cost 5 or 6 thousand dollars, and that's in today's money.

Without having lots of power hungry appliances, like air conditioners and water heaters, Last Station's electrical needs could probably be met with a much smaller generator. Or two, for redundancy.
 
Underground a generator is going to be supper unplesant. I say we go magic because it won't stink up the place.

[X] Fetch Harry for a second opinion
-[x] Insist on paying him. This isn't save the world stuff. It's help Molly with her project stuff.
 
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This is a bit pricey, DP. Even a very high end 22kw diesel generator capable of providing more power than a typical American home uses is only going to cost 5 or 6 thousand dollars, and that's in today's money.

Without having lots of power hungry appliances, like air conditioners and water heaters, Last Station's electrical needs could probably be met with a much smaller generator. Or two, for redundancy.

I'll take your word for it, not an expert so I just looked at what a 20 kw diesel generator was worth and adjusted it down for inflation. I think it might have included shipping or something.
 
I'll take your word for it, not an expert so I just looked at what a 20 kw diesel generator was worth and adjusted it down for inflation. I think it might have included shipping or something.
Now, what MAY be worth the money is a hydrogen fuel cell. The byproduct of that is water vapor and once we have a hydrogen tank we can use out tools tonsplit water into hydrogen easy enough.

And why are we talking about buying one? We have ALL the tools. We should be considering just building one. Throwing together a hydrogen fuel cell powerplant as a backup for magic seems like it should be viable.
 
[X] Fetch Harry for a second opinion
-[X] Stunt: Walking once more into Harry's dimly lit apartment, the traditional bag of fast food in one hand (chicken sandwiches and waffle fries this time, for variety) with a cardboard tray holding a trio of strawberry shakes in the other, you can't help but wonder if the wizard himself might not benefit from inspecting the magical oddity you discovered in the Last Station. "So, how many candles do you go through in a month, Harry? Could I perhaps interest you in a more...eco-friendly alternative?"
 
I am more and more convinced we need the following charms next turn.

Murder is Meat - Our Spirit killing charm. If only to gurantee we can put the shapeshifter down for good.
Maggot Mana Plague - We are going to get more and more minions who have special needs that are not easily fulfilled. We do not have to force them to eat it but if we want them to be useful, they have to feed their hunger. Also keep in mind that our newest despair eating minion is not fully awakened and this is the way to feed her to full and completely awaken her without killing people.

That said, @DragonParadox would you be having the Essence rules vote before the xp plan vote? It would make it easier as we would then know what we have to and not have to vote on.
 
@DragonParadox : I must complement you on capturing the Dresden files feel. Even with a XP gain that most tables would find huge we still feel like we don't have a 10th of what we need and the A, B and C plots are targeting different skill sets making it ever harder for us to prioritize. Of course much of this is self inflicted. Even if we got a hundred XP per arc I expect that we would continue to take on just slightly more responsibility than our shoulders can bare even as our shoulders grow. Which of course is exactly how an Exalted gets on the accelerated XP track.

Some Achievements so far this arc
  • Hacked the school (loyal minions totally count)
  • Won Andrea Von Trier a bet
  • Made mostly friendly contract with the Library of Congress getting a lot of information out of them well not giving away much information at all.
  • Set up an innovative diamond creating start up
  • Made a workshop better by adding explosives
  • Made diamonds again, but better
  • Got Leech a cyberdevil Samsong
  • Finally failed your will check and had a nightmare
  • Caused poor Tyler to have a public breakdown with words alone you Infernal.
  • Revealed yourself to Izzy and Alex
  • Told Izzy and Alex the truth about what you did over summer break and give them 101 stay safe advice
  • Discovery the locations of alien civilizations
  • Found out that both evolution and intelligent design are right.
  • Discovered that Brown University it a supernatural hotspot.
  • Bought the supposed scene of the crime and renovated it into a star trek set
  • Saved Agent Greene life
  • Intimidated an elder vampire
  • Got Isabela as a minion
  • Stole some really juicily blackmail
  • Introduced yourself to the Syliga family of the white court.
  • Finally Found out about Broken Seeker
  • Exchanged information with Agent Greene
  • Impressed Dresden with your competency. A a hard feat considering his bias.
  • Made your first dive into authorship (Big Book of Yomi Wan)
  • Confessed your nightmares to Brother Devisimar
  • Discovered the double dealings of Rodney Miller and put him on a watch list.
  • Identified the shooter Lictor in more ways then one.
  • Gained a favor from winter (maybe) or Dresden did (maybe)
  • Learned Never-born lore and the origins of the Black court
  • Became a 17 year old half-millionaire.
  • 3 House Malvora White Court vampires got
  • Got some very scared homeless people to trust you and let you help
  • Became a LawGiver in not just title.
It's been a exciting arc.
 
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[X] Fetch Harry for a second opinion
-[X] Stunt: Walking once more into Harry's dimly lit apartment, the traditional bag of fast food in one hand (chicken sandwiches and waffle fries this time, for variety) with a cardboard tray holding a trio of strawberry shakes in the other, you can't help but wonder if the wizard himself might not benefit from inspecting the magical oddity you discovered in the Last Station. "So, how many candles do you go through in a month, Harry? Could I perhaps interest you in a more...eco-friendly alternative?"


It's been a exciting arc.
Saving Greene probably is worth at least 2xp, with the Whamp.

So I figure... 16 or 17 xp?
 
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[X] Fetch Harry for a second opinion

Harry loves learning about magic from what I know of him, he'll jump on the occasion like the magic nerd he is.
 
[X] Fetch Harry for a second opinion


I REALLY want to see how Harry reacts thi this-both to Portar and the now other inhebitants of the station, and to our work here. And of course, to the magic electricity here. It might give him interesting ideas. i tihink BoB also would find this interesting phenomenon
 
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