Would you Distort or manifest EGO?


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In the first place, it is the failure of adults, when children needs to step up in their stead.

That was the point where everything fell apart.

So at the very least, we as the Adult of whom these children placed their faith upon, should try our best to save them instead of just reasoning that "They know better", no?

As I said before, they arent yet mature enough to make these decisions for themselves. They havent even finished middle school yet for Ayin's sake.
 
Anyway.
The judgement bird is trying to judge a sinner right now.
The adult is planing something I don't like.
There is possibility of Oz gang running around.
The blue reverberation is wandering around (Possibly killing those joke of a imitation of his old friends, which is good).
There is possibility of some secret groups of magical girls or such around us.
Whitenight is around, somewhere.
"the mute freak" is around, somewhere.
The mill is still a problem.
we still need to finish two seeds.
The possibility of even more abnormality showing up.
The possibility of aleph abnormality causing the end of the world scenario, which is very high, with how things work in this quests.
...Death may be imminent.
 
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[X] Chesed, former head of the Welfare Department, who had fought longer and harder than any of the other Sephirah to protect his employees.
[X] Explore Homura and Kyoko's transformations
 
[X] Chesed, former head of the Welfare Department, who had fought longer and harder than any of the other Sephirah to protect his employees.
[X] Explore Homura and Kyoko's transformations
 
Whitenight is around, somewhere.
"the mute freak" is around, somewhere.

Good news about these two:
"Most are where they're supposed to be, or returned to their Books recently. Nothing There, as you mentioned, is free. The other escapees that would cause the most damage to an open population are the Adult Who Tells Lies from the Floor of Social Sciences, Burrowing Heaven from the Floor of Religion, and the Snow Queen from the Floor of General Works. I will keep you updated as further escapes occur."

They are not free right now! The library still has them in their books!

For now.
 
[X] Chesed, former head of the Welfare Department, who had fought longer and harder than any of the other Sephirah to protect his employees.
[X] Investigate the unknown Abnormality encountered by Kyubey


So at the very least, we as the Adult of whom these children placed their faith upon, should try our best to save them instead of just reasoning that "They know better", no?

As I said before, they arent yet mature enough to make these decisions for themselves. They havent even finished middle school yet for Ayin's sake.
I don't know about this sort of mindset. Didn't Madoka's mom have a whole speech about how parents aren't supposed to make decisions for their children?

Narratively, this is also just boring. We aren't likely to be dealing with anyone "mature" in Mitakihara, so, what, we're automatically treating everyone that isn't from the Library as children to be herded lest they fuck something up, instead of as people with their own goals and worldviews? Meh.
 
[X] Chesed, former head of the Welfare Department, who had fought longer and harder than any of the other Sephirah to protect his employees.
[X] Explore Homura and Kyoko's transformations

Things seem to be going pretty well!
I am deeply afraid! :D
 
Sidestory 11 - There Are Precious Few At Ease With Moral Ambiguities
Sidestory 11 - There Are Precious Few At Ease With Moral Ambiguities

"Oz, welcome back."

Sena Mikoto lifted herself from the floor where she had been recording the patrol reports, notes forgotten on elegantly-crafted table as the Magical Girl went to greet the returning Wizard. She took care not to be too hurried, though. Excess eagerness would make a poor impression on her teacher. The Wizard herself gave Mikoto a quick bow, her towering frame folding over in an elegant gesture that left her eye-to-eye with her pupil for a moment before swiftly pulling back to her full height.

"It's a pleasure to see you as well, darling. Have you made any progress with Winchester?"

The mention of Mikoto's Doppel dampens her enthusiasm slightly. "No, sorry. While getting it to show up it is simple, I have been having a little trouble getting it to act. Even after you bound it, I still can't do anything. I'm sorry." Those last two words were the only break in the girl's relaxed tone, a brittleness that crept through as she glanced at the pale blue crystal hanging from a chain around her neck.

Despite the bad news, Oz's smile hardly waned. It seemed sometimes to Sena that the Wizard never really stopped smiling, just smiled in different ways depending on what they wanted to express. "Well, that's perfectly alright, Darling. I can give you all the time in the world to learn. It would be unreasonable for me to be disappointed in such a promising pupil for having difficulty doing something difficult, now wouldn't it?"

Mikoto nodded, though by then Oz had already turned away. A beckoning gesture from the crystalline woman called the young Magical Girl to follow behind, catching up just in time to brush her fingers against the screaming swirl of black and green that heralded Oz's teleportation. The maelstrom subsided as suddenly as it had appeared, leaving Mikoto alone in the lounge. Not sparing a moment, the bluenette reached forwards and pushed against the air, feeling space crack and shatter around her.

Teleportation was one of the first things Oz had taught Mikoto after saving her. It was an ability the Wizard had prized for its utility, and the normally sophisticated and prideful woman had shown a hint of excitement when she told Mikoto that she could teach it to her. Mikoto wasn't anywhere near Oz's level, unable to teleport quickly or accurately enough to use in combat, but the utility was enough for her. Hanna hadn't been able to replicate the feat at all, apparently because her copying Magic didn't allow her to replicate the skills needed and Oz had different courses planned for the other girl to study.

The cracks in reality folded back together, leaving the Magical Girl walking alongside her tutor through one of the Emerald City's streets. A quick glance around showed the frozen statues that had once been the citizens of Kamihama City, placed in stasis until their work was finished. Until then, it would be too risky to leave them exposed. From what Oz had told Mikoto and the others, they wouldn't even notice any time had passed. It still made for an unsettling scene, an empty street of statues beneath a murky green sky.

"So Oz, where were you today? You said it would be a surprise for when you got back." Mikoto asked. Whether the older woman was aware of it herself or not, Mikoto knew why Oz had chosen to teleport out to the street instead of straight where they were going. For as much as it felt contradictory to the woman's aura of overwhelming power and wisdom, she seemed almost desperate for somebody to talk to at times. She had saved Mikoto, Hanna, and Futaba and agreed to train, house, and support them, only asking that they help her in her crusade against Kyubey in return. From what Hanna had told Mikoto about the others, their recruitments had gone much the same way. Leonie had been with Oz longer than any of the rest of them, but the timid girl had only met their teacher about two weeks ago. Before that, Oz had been alone.

So it didn't cost Mikoto much to engage with Oz when she wanted to talk to somebody. A good story always helped lift the mood, as far as she was concerned.

"Well, if you must know, darling" Oz started, sounding not nearly as reluctant as her words would indicate, "I was visiting France."

"France? Really?"

"It's the place to be for anyone sophisticated, or so I've heard. Although my interests weren't nearly so pedestrian. Did you know that hundreds of years ago, a french Magical Girl tried to overthrow and replace Kyubey?"

"Oh?" Mikoto's eyes sparkled. Even if she knew a story like that could only have ended in tragedy, it was still reassuring to know that they weren't the only ones to have fought against the Incubators.

"Indeed, she and her children sought to replace Kyubey as a wish-granter. Sadly, the Incubators deceived other Magical Girls by pretending to be an angel, using Soul Gems as proof of its supposed 'divine providence'. The Magical Girls were thrown into war with one another, and none survived." Oz's smile took on a sad, wistful air as she explained, as if picturing the loss in her mind.

"We will learn from their mistakes, though. But be careful; Kyubey isn't the only creature here who may try to deceive you for its own benefit."

Mikoto's eyes narrowed. "The Alchemist."

"If we are lucky, it will be in a benevolent mood. But one should always be prepared for the alternatives." And with those words, Oz teleported once again.

Space fractured around Mikoto as she arrived in the Mill Chamber after her teacher. Involuntarily, a shudder ran through her body. As uncomfortable as the others found the concept of using Magic stolen from a dead Magical Girl, Sena understood the necessity of it. The Incubators were powerful, and they wouldn't take kindly to humanity trying to assert their independence. They needed every advantage they could get. But even so, something about the room just felt… off.

The cylindrical emerald chamber was mostly filled with machinery, pitch-black gears and blocks filling the space below the affluent balcony that overlooked it. Oz gestures towards the device, prompting Sena to toss one of the spent Grief Seeds she was carrying down into the funnel at the top of the mechanism. The blackened seed tumbled past the jaws of the machine, an unsettling moan filling the room as it was ground into powder. Another teleport took Oz to the base of the Mill, with Sena following shortly behind.

The pair stood before the titanic crystalline basin that the Mill fed into, more a pool than anything else. Within it was a thick, tarry sludge that shone and pulsed with sickly, vile energy. The pool of black bubbled and boiled, its diffused malice still clambering for shape. The Mill used this pool as the final step before forming its spawn, a collection of life energy processes and extracted to be shaped into something new.

Oz reached into the shimmering black-green fabric of her dress, fishing out a tiny crystalline cube tinted a violent red. With a contemptuous grin, she tossed the jewel into the mire.

Instantly, the pool began to shudder. Mikoto had been frightened the first time she'd seen this sight. Now, she barely flinched as the rotted arm pierced the darkness.

An unsightly figure staggered out from the basin. A head taller than an ordinary person even with its hunched stance, the thing was barely humanoid. Its skin was a leathery, mismatched brown-grey that looked more dead than alive, different patches stitched together in some places and bandaged over in others. The creature's head was featureless but for several slits all around it through which bright red eyes peeked out. Extending from the monster's back were several spidery limbs, each one lined with sharp hooks.

"Take care of this one, would you? I've got a lot of plans for it, but we can't have it getting away from us like little boy blue did. I've cut down on the ratio to include more Mill product, so we shouldn't have that issue again, but you can never be too careful."

Wordlessly, Sena Mikoto withdrew her weapon. It seemed it was time for her to do her work.
 
Well...isn't that worrying? So it was right yet wrong at the same time. The theory of the Mill using Soul gems to create Distortions.
Oz reached into the shimmering black-green fabric of her dress, fishing out a tiny crystalline cube tinted a violent red. With a contemptuous grin, she tossed the jewel into the mire.
Whatever this is, the Adult has her hands on something that retains the information of the Distortions...
Wait did she steal/copy their books? No. The Distorted Ensemble never left any books behind.
So whatever Argalia or this "new" Puppeteer is...There are some mega shenanigans at work here.

Still, we got confirmation on why Argalia was different. Or at least, as close to a confirmation as possible since the Adult is a filthy liar.

The seeds are ground down into "Negative Emotions"(As I will now dub the Mill Products) in order to have the necessary components to create a Distortion. And then the Adult will use whatever those crystalline cubes are and create a Distortion, similar to how Angela's library works in regard to non-living entities.

She just fucked up and used slightly less Mill product when it came to Argalia...Why? Was it because of the situation with Greta? Where she realized the Copy-Cat(?) was too weak and wanted to make them stronger by including more of the "original" in order to increase their intelligence?

Damn it, way to make me look forward to meeting with that Argalia even more. There are so many questions we need to ask.
 
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Hm, so the Adult who tells Lies is setting people against us. A predictable outcome of her presence though the noting that she seems to want people to talk to is a bit notable but it could just be a farce as well.
 
Oh dear
That looks to me like a greif cube
Those are a byproduct of wraiths
That ain't good
Means reality is getting screwy as in post madokami screwy
And adult is moving about, not good but if the argalia is a replica that slipped from her control...... talk about making your own hero, mayhaps this argalia can be called the sapphire echo though we should keep an eye on them considering they are an echo of argalia no matter how diminished or lesser it is and well adult mayhaps is setting him up as a ploy of some sort

Ps discovered something, the damage type colors also are linked to the magnum opus steps of nigredo aka black, albedo aka white, citrinitas aka pale, and rubedo aka red
Maybe by researching this we could do something with it mayhaps figure out how to synthesize egos and such for others?
 
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Huh. Well, I doubt saying she wants to replace the Incubators is a lie, but boy is there some distortion of the other facts.
I wonder what power the Adult used to learn that story. I doubt Kyubey would've told her or any living magical girl about it.

That looks to me like a greif cube
Those are a byproduct of wraiths
[...]
Maybe by researching this we could do something with it mayhaps figure out how to synthesize egos and such for others?
Not sure about that, the grief in the creation process seems to come from the Mill product, and not the cubes themselves.

Research into EGO synthesis for others might be a good way to combat the minions the Adult churns out. Funnily enough, the Adult's Mill looks more like stereotypical alchemical work than the Alchemist's Light.
 
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Lies are often just a horrible mimic of the truth.
and what a genius she is when all she can do is a mimicry.
That does say something about our little trickser, isn't it? How unoriginal hmmm?
 
Mayhaps we were going about it wrong
What if we were jumping the gun and trying to compress a multistage process into a single step
The adult consistently refers to us as alchemist which is oddly consistent so either we are everything but that since they are a liar or we are some form of one but the moniker is slightly off, right concept wrong term
Assuming making an ego does coincide with the steps for the magnum opus and project moon stats then we have been going about it wrong
The first is nigredo which coincides with temperance ie controlled empathy which is likely how we attain the ego for ourselves getting ourselves the material by attending to its originater, next would be albedo which coincides with prudence likely meaning that in addition we must study and understand the ego which admittedly means we were on the right track but going the wrong way or experimenting is correct and us augmenting the ordeals is part of the process of rendering the ego into a useable form, 3rd would be citrinitas coinciding with justice and likely to do with our force of will shaping it to our design as we deem right or equivalent, 4th and final step is rubedo and associated with instinct which means we may have to tap into Alephs power and Xs true self to accomplish it
Or mayhaps instead of ego creation the process I described will lead to the synthesis of something else entirely mayhaps a new seed of light, a seed of darkness, or something akin to a singularity
It is mostly theory work though if it also coincides with the horseman as well then likely nigredo will be costly for us except luxury stuff ie mimicry and Aleph grade equipment which considering the quest thus far is fitting, conquest may mean that the prospect of albedo means that we need the library and challenge the abnormality or ego holder to a proper battle or study them in their native habitat and understand them, next is death meaning the process could be dangerous if improperly handled or have deal with the spirit of the abnormality it's origin in the cognitive realm which is likely to be infinitely more dangerous than merely facing its physical avatar in the normal world, and last being war which may mean we might have to contest the instincts of the origin and force it to our will
Honestly would explain why creating ego items is so damned difficult and why distortions and ego are sides of a coin, a distortion is a botched ego with ayin doing the heavy lifting with the last 2 steps of citrinitas and rubedo to the weilder

Also Kaill thank you for making me laugh, the adult is a plagiarist, not even a good one at That! And fitting since they are based on the wizard of oz who arguably is a plagiarist as well
 
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Oz, welcome back."

Sena Mikoto lifted herself from the floor where she had been recording the patrol reports, notes forgotten on elegantly-crafted table as the Magical Girl went to greet the returning Wizard.
Ah crap. This girl. She's from Magia Record, and her magic let's her hypnotize people, including Witches and familiars. But her most worrisome aspect is-
It's a pleasure to see you as well, darling. Have you made any progress with Winchester?"
This. Her Witch, or Doppel for now, is capable of making perfect copies of people, complete with powers and memories, to the point they can't tell that they were never real. The labyrinth her Witch constructs can connect with the Labyrinths her familiars-turned-Witches spawn, forming a sprawling network of Labyrinths.

Said Labyrinth can apparently also connect time and space, accessing both the past and the future, along with alternate timelines and other worlds. Not sure how canon that is though. It happened in a crossover event so...

Sena had trouble getting her Doppel to do anything, partially because of her emotions interfering with its ability and partially because of its lack of creativity. She decides to amend the latter by adding what was missing, by straight up sacrificing other people to it.
She had saved Mikoto, Hanna, and Futaba and agreed to train, house, and support them, only asking that they help her in her crusade against Kyubey in return.
And she has the power copier and the invisible girl too! Joy.
From what Hanna had told Mikoto about the others, their recruitments had gone much the same way. Leonie had been with Oz longer than any of the rest of them, but the timid girl had only met their teacher about two weeks ago. Before that, Oz had been alone.
I really hope by others she means "Futaba and Leonie" and not "my own private army of Magical Girls."
But this all happened within two weeks? Man things move fast.
We will learn from their mistakes, though. But be careful; Kyubey isn't the only creature here who may try to deceive you for its own benefit."

Mikoto's eyes narrowed. "The Alchemist."

"If we are lucky, it will be in a benevolent mood. But one should always be prepared for the alternatives." And with those words, Oz teleported once again.
Yep, that's one way to make people wary of us. Paint us as the deceitful liar. Make sure they won't even give us the benefit of the doubt by upping paranoia.
Teleportation was one of the first things Oz had taught Mikoto after saving her. It was an ability the Wizard had prized for its utility, and the normally sophisticated and prideful woman had shown a hint of excitement when she told Mikoto that she could teach it to her. Mikoto wasn't anywhere near Oz's level, unable to teleport quickly or accurately enough to use in combat, but the utility was enough for her. Hanna hadn't been able to replicate the feat at all, apparently because her copying Magic didn't allow her to replicate the skills needed and Oz had different courses planned for the other girl to study.
She can teach people?

Well, she is a Wizard. I didn't think Magical Girls could actually learn her magic... Could normal people learn it? Or is there a connection between Abnormalities and Magical Girls that allow their magic to be compatible?

Still, this means we have little idea of her full capabilities. We know she knows magic, but that can mean anything, really. Fighting her is gonna be a pain, unless we assemble the other Oz abnos and bypass her bullshit.
"So Oz, where were you today? You said it would be a surprise for when you got back." Mikoto asked. Whether the older woman was aware of it herself or not, Mikoto knew why Oz had chosen to teleport out to the street instead of straight where they were going. For as much as it felt contradictory to the woman's aura of overwhelming power and wisdom, she seemed almost desperate for somebody to talk to at times.
That's... a little interesting? Maybe teaching others magic was more than just investing in a tool. She still is, of course, but Abnormalities exist to interact and be understood by humans. Maybe some part of her needs other people to be around her.

Or she just being a prideful git who loves hearing herself talk.
 
Or she just being a prideful git who loves hearing herself talk.
Don't for a moment think she needs someone to talk to. She's 100% lying out of her ass for that one.

We literally saw her side story of what she actually thinks. She is just making it seems like shes an oh-so-poor wizard just needing some companionship all alone against a world that wants to destroy her goodwill in order to trick the girls into fully trusting her.
 
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......
Huh so the mirror witch connects timelines and multiverses
Now that's fascinating
And I guess it makes sense why the adult likes her
Though sena is more benevolent she posses much the same mindset to emphathise with the adult..... now my question
Can the adult care for others asides itself and can we take advantage of this aspect
..... is the adult truly a card carrying villain as it portrays itself or is it's own personality itself a lie? Is the fashade I despise a mask for the fact it utterly loathes its self and unhappy despite all it has
Is it lying even to itself?
Was the side story accurate or another deception that wasn't aimed at us!?
.......... talk about an Aleph damned rabbit hole that's making me question everything I know about it
Damn my farking Temperance and Prudence
We still going to kick her arse but now I can't help but pity the damned bastard
......mayhaps we could do a rendition of what we did to NT, give it at least the capacity for temperance and justice after we beat them
 
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