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“Human Resources” Shouldn’t Be This Literal: A PMMM/ProjectMoon Quest

Would you Distort or manifest EGO?

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Eternal_0bserver said:
I believe that X's true form is very cool with all those wings! Kyoko, in particular, would be really impressed with such a display. I wonder if X can make a pair of wings in her "sealed" form? Flying sounds cool. Human appearance is overrated anyway.
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Outside of the general possibility that we could turn them into rotting corpses because of our "Alkanest" nature, yeah, our true form sounds very cool.

Though I'm sure Kyoko will freak out the next moment everything near her starts corroding and have another crisis of faith right after starting to have faith in us.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Lepidoptera on Oct 5, 2022 at 12:58 AM, finished with 103 posts and 26 votes.
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Oh, and voting's closed. No surprises here.
 
Lepidoptera said:
Since you asked for information about X's Abnormality self, here's a sprite edit I threw together in an afternoon.

I'm a writer, not an artist.
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Are those goat legs? Does she have a belly or is it just oddly void colored? Is her face similar to Roland's void hole is is it completely smooth black metallic in texture? How the hell do we convince people that Kyoko's mom is just trying out fancy hair dye with this insane sparkly hair?

Wait how big is she? She mentioned before that her shell was too small. Whats her size? From Galaxy Child (ah another victi- child for the adoption collection) to the Perfect Meal how big is she?

One thing for sure though...thats alot more normal than I expected.
 
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questioningmeme said:
Are those goat legs? Does she have a belly or is it just oddly void colored? Is her face similar to Roland's void hole is is it completely smooth black metallic in texture? How the hell do we convince people that Kyoko's mom is just trying out fancy hair dye with this insane sparkly hair?

Wait how big is she? She mentioned before that her shell was too small. Whats her size? From Galaxy Child (ah another victi- child for the adoption collection) to the Perfect Meal how big is she?
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To answer your questions in order:
- One foot is hoofed, yes.
- Void
- The front of the face has caved in to reveal the inside, which is currently a blank void. I debated adding some eyes in there, but I couldn't make it look right.
- Just keep with the human costume, no need to go all out all the time.
- A little over twice an ordinary person's height, significantly larger if counting the wings
 
Lepidoptera said:
- Void
- The front of the face has caved in to reveal the inside, which is currently a blank void. I debated adding some eyes in there, but I couldn't make it look right.
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Took being made out of Ayin (nothing) a bit too literally, huh?

Pretty cool tho. Very horrific for others we know if we transform. I approve.

Also has the sefirot diagram on the upper chest. Neat.

Edit: Are the wings made out of / spilling Light everywhere or just a visual thing?
 
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One last thing...

What is our lab coat like? Is it literally a part of us like some kind of second-layer skin, or is it just a fancy clothing piece for us?
 
Okay. I think I have something worth throwing into the discussion again.

I'd greatly discourage anyone from thinking about prematurely breaking X's Shell seeing as:

Lepidoptera said:
But you were- are- incomplete, and would have brought disaster if you had arrived as you were.
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and as this was last chapter literally n o t h i n g has changed about that "bringing disaster" bit.

I would even say making it so that (I can't do the fancy Character) x can manifest her glory without breaking the world is one of our core gameplay mechanics:
The Saplings and integrating their bits into us.

And I think this because of 1 big thing:

X is a Trauma Abno all about Lobotomy Corporation HQ and its unending hell for the sake of completing A's Great Work.

If X manifests now it will only bring forth the Trauma from when the Scenario was still progressing.
But if we integrate enough bits X may name-change into being the manifestation of Day50 and the Week of Light it should have heralded.

Added to that: Sayaka and Mami think they are employed to do:

Lepidoptera said:
"It was… something good. Wasn't it? Something important."
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Directly echoing the sentiment that led to the Seed Of Light scenario in the first place.
And implying that X's Abno "Gameplay" is about metaphorically reenacting the "Completion of a Great Work".

TLDR: X is a reverse White Night. Starting as a disaster barely held back by a human shell, but if we manage to bring her stageplay as an Abno to its good ending she will be a wholly benevolent (probably) White Night tier Unit to make the world a better place.

This would also give us a reason to consider the shell breaking a bad end even though X is immortal as an Abno. The X Persona would die and Abno-X's presence would kill the world.

Trust in Abno-X's opinion on the matter. Her full Glory is (not yet) a toy.
 
Lepidoptera said:
Since you asked for information about X's Abnormality self, here's a sprite edit I threw together in an afternoon.
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Looks good, and answer an idle thought that I got: *wait, are our wings like bird's wings or are they like Burrowing heaven's wings?*

Turns out it was Burrowing Heaven's, neat.

And since I quoted you:
What are X's instincts telling her about how dangerous it would be to get out of her cage? Does she think it's *in case of big emergency, break glass* dangerous, or are they screaming *unless it's already the apocalypse, do not touch that option*?
 
Nyarky said:
What are X's instincts telling her about how dangerous it would be to get out of her cage? Does she think it's *in case of big emergency, break glass* dangerous, or are they screaming *unless it's already the apocalypse, do not touch that option*?
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Do not use unless it's already the apocalypse
 
Well...on one hand, that comment from breakingchamber about X being weak is now outdated.

On the other...turns out we are as threatening as Whitenight...except, in this case, we are more like if Whitenight had a horrifying baby with [CENSORED].
 
Yeah, that's what I figured. One thing the update made clear is that X is working with very incomplete information, especially regarding herself, and it's at least partially intentional on א's part.

Which does make me wonder where the plot is going. Walmartnight doesn't seem an appropriate final boss.

Kinda makes me think the end goal really is kicking the Incubators off of Earth. Which is ambitious, never had a PMMM where the goal was to get rid of them. And with all these powerful Abnormalities around, including X and א, it feels possible.

Huh, the Incubators want to beat entropy, and one of א's powers is the ultimate in entropy. How ironic.
 
Nottheunmaker said:
Yeah, that's what I figured. One thing the update made clear is that X is working with very incomplete information, especially regarding herself, and it's at least partially intentional on א's part.

Which does make me wonder where the plot is going. Walmartnight doesn't seem an appropriate final boss.

Kinda makes me think the end goal really is kicking the Incubators off of Earth. Which is ambitious, never had a PMMM where the goal was to get rid of them. And with all these powerful Abnormalities around, including X and א, it feels possible.

Huh, the Incubators want to beat entropy, and one of א's powers is the ultimate in entropy. How ironic.
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I do not think it's possible to beat the Incubators even with what X and א have.

Remember, they are a force on the universal scale constantly prolonging the life of the cosmos via billions, trillions to an uncountable number of species contracting. From their point of view, the earth is as significant as a grain of sand in our backyard.

They can just wait for everyone on earth to die and come back to re-seed it with life again. What I think our end goal is, is to show the Incubator a method for them to obtain energy without causing suffering.
 
questioningmeme said:
Remember, they are a force on the universal scale constantly prolonging the life of the cosmos via billions, trillions to an uncountable number of species contracting. From their point of view, the earth is as significant as a grain of sand in our backyard.
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This is... not actually true. Unless newer installments added these things. Kyubey specifically points out that humanity is an irregularity for the ability to coexist despite having emotions. These emotions are necessary to create energy. Humanity is pretty important to the Incubators because of that.
 
questioningmeme said:
I do not think it's possible to beat the Incubators even with what X and א have.

Remember, they are a force on the universal scale constantly prolonging the life of the cosmos via billions, trillions to an uncountable number of species contracting. From their point of view, the earth is as significant as a grain of sand in our backyard.

They can just wait for everyone on earth to die and come back to re-seed it with life again. What I think our end goal is, is to show the Incubator a method for them to obtain energy without causing suffering.
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Sounds like quiter talk to me.
 
Naron said:
This is... not actually true. Unless newer installments added these things. Kyubey specifically points out that humanity is an irregularity for the ability to coexist despite having emotions. These emotions are necessary to create energy. Humanity is pretty important to the Incubators because of that.
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I consider this a plot hole or at least, a "misdirection" from Kyubey's wording.

If Humanity is so important. Madoka's witch destroying Humanity would've been something Kyubey would do to avoid at all costs.

Because while Madoka Witch can provide a massive amount of energy, from a calculative point of view, allowing humans to prosper and spread out to a billion worlds would eventually out-produce Madoka Witch. Discounting the final timeline of Madoka who is a literal universal level of energy contract, the previous timelines of Madoka leading up to that point still would've destroyed all of Humanity.

Of course, this is all pointless anyway.

Remember. Humans living on the other side of the galaxy, planted there by Kyubey, are still humans. Trillions of human species living on trillions of worlds disconnected from each others are still part of humanity.

We do not know whether "Human" is for our species, for our mindset, for our ability to "coexist" despite having emotions (This could also mean that there are more species than ours, but they are stuck in a perpetual cycle of war due to emotions) or for our species.

Generally speaking. It should be assumed that he has more than enough "backups" to where he can willy-nilly just let all of humanity/the earth's ability to support life be destroyed by Madoka witch.

Nottheunmaker said:
Sounds like quiter talk to me.
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Hey, not like QB would care about us that much. He only cared about energy. If pushing X to go "Apocalypse Mode" and destroy the world to generate energy, QB would do it too.
 
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