Fate/Clusterfuck (Fate/Stay Night)

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Erien said:
There were many fates possible for Shirou Emiya, many of them resulted in his death.
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That's one hell of an understatement!
Erien said:
She's been stabbed, more than once. A mugger?
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Interesting. There should be at least one self-inflicted stab wound, but Medea was than capable of killing her incel of a master, even after severing the contract herself.


[X] [Of an Island]

We gotta go to Destiny Island so we can get a Keyblade, man!

...Or see the Isle of Colchis, I guess.
 
[X] [Of an Island]

Anything is fine, as long as it didn't lead to that damn aria completion the way it is in Canon.

Sure it sounds cool and all, but once you dissect it for it's meaning and combining it with Shirou's need to save others at all cost, I just fucking hate it with the entirety of my being.
 
Black.Horus said:
[X] [Of an Island]

Anything is fine, as long as it didn't lead to that damn aria completion the way it is in Canon.

Sure it sounds cool and all, but once you dissect it for it's meaning and combining it with Shirou's need to save others at all cost, I just fucking hate it with the entirety of my being.
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All his life...
 
A part of me is deeply concerned that if we have a servant dreams of Medea's time on the island being trained then Hecate might notice us and decide to do something. She is a goddess of witchcraft, necromancy, and the moon. She definitely has a clairvoyance skill high enough to notice us peaking in on her lessons from the future, and there is no such thing as a greek goddess/god that doesn't poke things that interest them.

Then again.

[X] [Of an Island]

Even offhand knowledge from Medea's time on the island should be good for Shirou, the kid could use a lesson or two. Besides, this is SV, poking things that might kill us is the norm.
 
Neo-Chan said:
A part of me is deeply concerned that if we have a servant dreams of Medea's time on the island being trained then Hecate might notice us and decide to do something. She is a goddess of witchcraft, necromancy, and the moon. She definitely has a clairvoyance skill high enough to notice us peaking in on her lessons from the future, and there is no such thing as a greek goddess/god that doesn't poke things that interest them.

Then again.

[X] [Of an Island]

Even offhand knowledge from Medea's time on the island should be good for Shirou, the kid could use a lesson or two. Besides, this is SV, poking things that might kill us is the norm.
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Oh the teasing would be immense.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqkzIS5mygI
 
Erien said:
You hiss in pain as you feel the iron rod in your spine slide into place. "Dammit…" You grunt, trying to control your breath. One fatal step, one wrong move, and the Magic Circuit will devour you like a hungry dog.

You sit there, sweating, concentrating in the dim confines of the shed. With a snap you feel it form in place, and you let out a long, shuddering breath as you feel the magic circuit, correction, artificial magic circuit form within your body. You were not a magus, you were hardly even a magic user. You had no crest, no natural magic circuits. So each you had to create manually, and with agony.

Your father was a magus, but he was not… your father, you were an adopted son. Or, more bluntly. You were a normal human. But if you trained enough, you may just become like Kiritsugu. So that you could use it for others, so that you cou-
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I was able to follow up until this point, when suddenly I have this intense feeling that Shioru had an upbringing not unlike one Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden. Which would explain much about his personality thus far, both in the story and what has been hinted at in this thread. Magic isn't a completely foreign thing to him ... even if this hero ... thing ... is?

[X] [Of Battle]
 
C4Cypher said:
I was able to follow up until this point, when suddenly I have this intense feeling that Shioru had an upbringing not unlike one Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden. Which would explain much about his personality thus far, both in the story and what has been hinted at in this thread. Magic isn't a completely foreign thing to him ... even if this hero ... thing ... is?
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Thankfully not really. Kiritsugu was a pretty good dad to Shirou iirc...aside from teaching him magic really poorly :D
 
C4Cypher said:
I was able to follow up until this point, when suddenly I have this intense feeling that Shioru had an upbringing not unlike one Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden. Which would explain much about his personality thus far, both in the story and what has been hinted at in this thread. Magic isn't a completely foreign thing to him ... even if this hero ... thing ... is?

[X] [Of Battle]
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I mean, what you're quoting is basically just... canon Shirou.

But no, Shirou's upbringing was nothing like Dresden's, while they're both adopted, Kiritsugu genuinely cared for Shirou and tried his best to protect him.
 
Neo-Chan said:
A part of me is deeply concerned that if we have a servant dreams of Medea's time on the island being trained then Hecate might notice us and decide to do something. She is a goddess of witchcraft, necromancy, and the moon. She definitely has a clairvoyance skill high enough to notice us peaking in on her lessons from the future, and there is no such thing as a greek goddess/god that doesn't poke things that interest them.
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Erien said:
Oh the teasing would be immense.
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Glernaj said:
Hecate suddenly changes the lesson to how to take care of swords.
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Canon Archer EMIYA is a copycat of Gilgamesh. Clusterfuck!Archer EMIYA is a copycat of Caster Gilgamesh. Still summoning a bunch of weapons and Noble Phantasms, but they're now focusing on magical items. Touhou levels of magic bullets, but also quick to decipher and reverse-engineer magecraft.

Albeit at a less potent capability because Magecraft and all Mage-related things degrade based on how well known and understood they are.
Derek58 said:
Thankfully not really. Kiritsugu was a pretty good dad to Shirou iirc
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Glernaj said:
Shirou's upbringing was nothing like Dresden's, while they're both adopted, Kiritsugu genuinely cared for Shirou and tried his best to protect him.
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Care… is a word I'd only say should be reserved because of a Curse.

A Curse By THE God Of Evil Wearing His Wife's Face.

Kiritsugu pulling Shirou from the ashes was the last time he would experience happiness and health. The smiles he wore a false, thin mask. Even the stress his body had undergone from his Bounded Field escalated slowly into debilitating then crippling agony. Even as a supposed blank slate, Shirou knew it was his father who needed care.

Before Taiga took custody as legal guardian, Shirou basically grew up doing end-of-life care for his dad. No small wonder then, that the adolescent promised to fulfill his father's broken dream.
 
Oh, for heaven's sake, Shirou. Your self-esteem problems are showing again! You could, for example, ask Caster who hurt her, and if they're still a problem. *sigh*

But I'd lie if I say I disliked our resident superhero wannabe.

[X] [Of Battle]

Also, yeah, I loved the chapter. Medea's appropriately creepy, Shirou's clueless and heroic.
 
StormLord said:
what swords would be prominent in Medea's past?
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Swords aren't a super-big deal in Greek mythology. Phalanx Warfare favored reach. But there are a few wikipedia points out:

Perseus is known to wield a Harpe, a sword we now know to be more like a khopesh instead of a sword with a curve sticking out. While every hero from Cronus to Hermes to Hercules and even Zeus has used the weapon before, its role is very specific: Monster-slaying. Whether Titans, Gorgons, or even the Father of Monsters Typhon, all who fight beasts have carried this blade. Medea would also be very familiar with Perseus: When she and her son Medus fled Colchis in the wake of her uncle's violent coup of Colchis, they land in the Iranian plateau and her son rules the native peoples, who take the name Medes in Medea's honor. Until Perseus arrives near the end of his long life, kicks the place over, and makes Persia while leaving something of a rump Mede state. Or something like that, the myths are really divergent.

The Titan Themis, Zeus' second wife, was a Goddess of Justice and Oracles. A proud, yet maternal figure, she is distinct from her mother Gaia by wielding a Sword of Justice which as come to define the image of we have of a blind woman in a toga holding scales and a sword. She is the one who founded the Oracle of Delphi.

Peleus, father of Achilles, was a man Medea would have met, an Argonaut and a key figure in the hunt for the Golden Fleece. His sword is little remarked on, but such was its power and his mastery of it that he was said to be unbeatable so long as he held it. One day his fellow Argonaut Acastus, king of Iolcus after Medea got his sisters to dismember their dad, attempted to murder him after his wife made up a story of Peleus raping her. He didn't, probably, Peleus just didn't want to sleep with a married woman. But Acastus took the sword while the man slept and hid it. Depending on the teller, Chiron the centaur or Hermes himself returned the blade to Peleus, and he gathered an army along with Jason to raze IoIcus and dismember the king and queen.

The Argonaughts are a swell bunch of people./sarcasm
 
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