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Digimon Inheritance: A Heroic Lion's Turbulent Times (Finished)

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radioxaxa said:
Verge has had closure, he had it when he killed Count and the others, after humilating Repulsa, your literally just risking us losing are chance to save our Friends core just cause it wasn't enough for you.
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No her death would also free the core to reincarnate. It's just again it could end up literally anywhere there is a tree of rebirth it seems. Might end up somewhere really nice or might end up in some village barely getting by and surrounded by ferals.

We have a a rare chance to decide somewhat where a new digig egg/ in training digimon will go ( I am unsure which it will reincarnate into), I trust us more then I trust the server to give a new being a good life even with all the baggage ( which I am hoping drexel will finally let us address now Repsula is dealt with and let Verg go to therapy).
 
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Karugus said:
Agnimon is dead. We literally can't bring him back. All you people obsessing over him is refusing to give Verge and Sparks closure and heaping a bunch of drama on a kid who doesn't deserve it.
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Sparks has put together a plan. The guy who was Daemon's chief tactician in a previous life and has proven to have retained pretty much all of his intellect. I'm trusting to the plan.
 
Karugus said:
Agnimon is dead. We literally can't bring him back. All you people obsessing over him is refusing to give Verge and Sparks closure and heaping a bunch of drama on a kid who doesn't deserve it.

Yeah… cause Verge is a stellar parent at the best of times… oh wait, he can't bring himself to call half his kids his children out of trauma. One lives in fear of disappointing Verge, one has lived his entire life trying to live up to Verge, and the other is a drug addict.

Holy shit does this kid not deserve our baggage and projections onto him. And Verge isn't the best about not letting his own perspective color his stance on his various kids, and Sparks is the last thing to being able to objectively engage with this kid.

You are demanding heartache and drama to satisfy an attempt to vicariously recreate agnimon. It's not going to end well.
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...I don't think anyone is under the delusion that we're going to resurrect Agnimon from the dead or something. We just want to give his successor the chance to grow and be who he wants without, you know, getting merced by some crazy vampire dude and his sadistic sidekick because there wasn't anyone to protect him.
 
Also even if you are vehemently against Verg looking after him and think he'd be the worse parent every, We can leave the reincarnation in elect-town with Frigimon who runs an orphanage and is pretty decent by this world standards.
 
[X]You've won, Repulsa has been soundly defeated. Finish the plan by devolving her back to Shutumon, then capture her in Sparks' space time stone.
drexal15 said:
It's funny. She put up more resistance as a Shutumon.
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The public takeaway seems to point to Repulsa being a scrub on all counts lol.
drexal15 said:
"No-no please Verge! Listen I can-I can defect to Bulwark! Leopardmon wouldn't turn down a Legendary Warrior like me! And-and I can tell him the Gloaming's secret plans!" The Mega begs, pointlessly struggling to change your mind.
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And with that, even the Gloaming won't complain whatever we do
 
[X]You've won, Repulsa has been soundly defeated. Finish the plan by devolving her back to Shutumon, then capture her in Sparks' space time stone.

Wow OK I was giving her way too much credit with that evolution.
 
First time in so much time that I have time and see this glorious moment damn good timing.

[X]You've won, Repulsa has been soundly defeated. Finish the plan by devolving her back to Shutumon, then capture her in Sparks' space time stone.

I don't have much context but Verge isn't going to Load Repulsa so I don't believe that there is a reason to kill her when becoming Sparks experiment is basically what will happen.
 
So if we are taking both the spirits is there already solider lined up to receive them?

Also I wanna to see the look on Groundramon's face right about that. Also the prince's face as well.
 
[X]You've won, Repulsa has been soundly defeated. Finish the plan by devolving her back to Shutumon, then capture her in Sparks' space time stone.
wow that was easy
 
[X]You've won, Repulsa has been soundly defeated. Finish the plan by devolving her back to Shutumon, then capture her in Sparks' space time stone.
 
[X]You've won, Repulsa has been soundly defeated. Finish the plan by devolving her back to Shutumon, then capture her in Sparks' space time stone.

Stick to the plan.

.... also wow the wind temple did not cover itself in glory here.... especially since Repulsa had just sadistically tormented another LW only a round ago.
 
[X] You've won, Repulsa has been soundly defeated. Finish the plan by devolving her back to Shutumon, then capture her in Sparks' space time stone.
 
[X]You've won, Repulsa has been soundly defeated. Finish the plan by devolving her back to Shutumon, then capture her in Sparks' space time stone.
 
TempestK said:
Sparks has put together a plan. The guy who was Daemon's chief tactician in a previous life and has proven to have retained pretty much all of his intellect. I'm trusting to the plan.
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Sparks has enormous hang ups with reincarnation, and he's a very special case. I think you're trusting in disappointment tbh. He certainly doesn't have anything on par with what Malkismon bribed Anubismon with in the past.
TheDuke said:
...I don't think anyone is under the delusion that we're going to resurrect Agnimon from the dead or something. We just want to give his successor the chance to grow and be who he wants without, you know, getting merced by some crazy vampire dude and his sadistic sidekick because there wasn't anyone to protect him.
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Verge really isn't all that good at actually being a caretaker any more. And what if the kid doesn't want to be put through the absolute wringer that a Verge trying to vicariously 'create a hero' from Agnimon's reincarnation. You're dead set that we have to be the ones to raise him when we can just make sure he shows up somewhere safe where he'll be cared for.

This all seems to seriously underestimate the baggage two traumatized child soldiers are going to have raising the reincarnation of their best friend and former idol. I'm clearly not winning this one but I encourage everyone to keep in mind what's best for the kid rather than 'what we can do for the kid' going forward.
 
[X]You've won, Repulsa has been soundly defeated. Finish the plan by devolving her back to Shutumon, then capture her in Sparks' space time stone.

While I understand @Karugus ' concerns, I believe Agnimon's next life will be safer with us in Bulwark or at least with Frigimon then he will be if we allow him to simply reincarnate randomly somewhere in the server.
 
[X]After all this time, you finally have Repulsa at your mercy. Crush the life out of this monster and avenge Agnimon.

Letting 2 wind spirits go off in the hand of a truly godawful person just because Hollywood normalized the bullshit of "spare the bad guy" is stupid in the extreme
 
I'd honestly be perfectly okay with leaving the reincarnation with Frigimon or even Bulwark. I'd definitely prefer it was safe, I just think letting Verge and Spark have too direct a hand in raising it is a mistake.
 
Karugus said:
Verge really isn't all that good at actually being a caretaker any more. And what if the kid doesn't want to be put through the absolute wringer that a Verge trying to vicariously 'create a hero' from Agnimon's reincarnation. You're dead set that we have to be the ones to raise him when we can just make sure he shows up somewhere safe where he'll be cared for.
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Then Verg won't train him to be a hero, however he will probably still training him to be able to defend himself considering you know this is a death world where everyone has some intensive to kill in the name of loading and Verg is a pretty good trainer.

Karugus said:
This all seems to seriously underestimate the baggage two traumatized child soldiers are going to have raising the reincarnation of their best friend and former idol. I'm clearly not winning this one but I encourage everyone to keep in mind what's best for the kid rather than 'what we can do for the kid' going forward.
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No, we know how traumatised they are. It's just we think they can still A do pretty well and B aren't exactly that abnormal unfortunately with everything going on in this server in that regard. They're also doing well with Xia.

Also considering you just wanna kill her and have the reincarnation turn up anywhere on this island when there is a possibility of a major war to break out soon as well as a infections of crystals I don't think you have their best interests in mind as much as you think you do.

Varano said:
[X]After all this time, you finally have Repulsa at your mercy. Crush the life out of this monster and avenge Agnimon.

Letting 2 wind spirits go off in the hand of a truly godawful person just because Hollywood normalized the bullshit of "spare the bad guy" is stupid in the extreme
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Uh we're not sparing the bad guy, we are dragging them back so the data can be extracted from them and then gonna execute her. Also It doesn't say we're handing over the spirits to the gloaming.
 
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Karugus said:
I'd honestly be perfectly okay with leaving the reincarnation with Frigimon or even Bulwark. I'd definitely prefer it was safe, I just think letting Verge and Spark have too direct a hand in raising it is a mistake.
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No it isn't, if we leave him with Bulwark he's just going to have a 100% chance of growing up to being a Bulwark soldier and if we leaving him with Frigimon just leaves him open to being ganked by Astamon and subsequently kidnapped and used as a hostage.

Verge raising him himself is objectively in-universe the right move here, even if we don't account for the fact that not doing so would be incredibly narratively unsatisfying OOC wise.
 
Let's be honest Digimon although a kids show is a literal Death world. We couldn't defend him from everything and everyone even if we wanted to. Especially not from Astamom but guys let's get the facts right because the concerns that were stated although understandable are in no way valid.

Astamon could indeed kill him at every point in time but don't you remember that we just had that long talk with him how he looks forward to die? He isn't some "ha ha I am going to kill everything you love" cheesy villain that is just going to nuke everything we love just to spite us, that is a gross misinterpretation of his character for now…

And about the whole were should we put the reincarnation discussion, let's be honest there will always be conflict in the digitalworld it is by design a brutal bloody world of evolution. So I think leaving him with frigimon or bulwark is perfectly valid. But I also don't think taking him with us would be a bad idea.

People say Verge and sparks are to damaged to care for children but they are willfully ignorant to the fact that Digimon aren't human Verge and Sparks are the standard for a digimons "normal" mentalstate. To anyone who believes Digimon should be raised by someone who isn't mentally scarred I say "good luck finding someone who fits the bill they are like a needle in a haystack, you are just delusional."
 
When you put it that way, Verge is probably not the worst out there.

Also, I don't think that Verge's goal is to make Agnimon live again and let him achieve his goal of being a hero. Verge is already doing the latter for him, and the former has a lot of stuff that could complicate it.

I think, from what I glean from the discussion and the text itself, that Verge simply wants excise Agnimon's data from Repulsa's, freeing it from her clutch. I think that in some amount, Verge simply wants Agnimon to be able to experience the next life. He doesn't seem to want Agnimon back for his sake or to be a hero.
 
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