Yes let's give The money and equipment Granger needs when he's out of office.
Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition
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- ?????????
I mean that's not true for Julian or Sarang
- Location
- USA
Yeah but I like the options Seo will open up more than the ones that the others do. Also I like his background as well, from a department that our predecessor ignored to one that has become increasingly important.
Mossr
Master of the Void-less Ream
- Location
- The World Between Worlds
Sorry, I've said it wrong, I meant something good in regards to Tiberium solutions, I was not saying that the other choices don't have anything good. Sorry if I made you think that I believe otherwise
Julian is political candidate. He comes with finite supply of currency and no talents, no experiences, and therefore, no bonuses.
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I don't recall this being stated anyway. Do you have any QM statements which confirm this?
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- USA
No Julian would have the easiest time of the 4 in picking up PS during a plan on the flip side he is not an admin so has no dice bonuses, so he does have some advantages
KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
- Location
- Midwest, USA
[X] Julian Taylor
Already made my case as to why.
Already made my case as to why.
Emphasis mine, but his entire downside is pretty clearly being a war hero who's been in the military since the day he turned 18, which means he has basically zero experience with even just living as a civilian much less being a senior civilian bureaucrat in charge of making sense of all these charts and statistics and quarterly budgets. I'd expect him to have either no, or perhaps even a negative modifier to a lot of civilian sectors, balanced out by a positive modifier to the military and a bunch of easy political points/lowered PS costs. But he's explicitly the worst administrator on the list, even the career politician at least knows what it's like to live outside of military discipline, Taylor doesn't even have that his entire adult life has been spent in the military.
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- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
That doesn't say that he provides no bonuses.
Yeah, because nobody's numerical bonuses and penalties are enumerated right now, intentionally. "While not exceptionally skilled in any treasury relevant areas, he is politically popular and someone who has the credentials of a war hero to cover many potential gaffes and mistakes in negotiation." The flavor text is polite bureaucrat-speak but if we were around the watercooler instead of reading an official report that apparatchiki translates to "this dude has no fucking idea what he's doing and is going to have to coast on being popular to cover the fuckups until he learns"
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- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
So that means that this statement isn't based on anything (or at least correctly so) the QM has said because QM hasn't said that Julian gets no bonuses at all.
- Location
- USA
I highlighted what I thought the traits meant including mark advantages and disadvantagtes and they all have at least 1 advantage and at least 1 trait that opens up different options for them. Julian though has no experience in admin so we cannot expect bonuses to any category except maybe military. Seo on the other hand should provide a bonus to multiple categories if not all of them as one of his advantages.
Gen.Raven
Leader of the Hawk-Men
- Location
- Bristol, Tennessee
Eh, he's basically even more of a blank slate then the other candidates then, and Illithid has confirmed we get to control how our candidate grows.
Eh, I consider the Scrin research to be an unofficial Tiberium research program, because IIRC that was the primary reason people went for it at the time. Otherwise, points taken. I think I'm going to take a break from the thread for a while and think about it some more.
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[X] Julian Taylor
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Yes, and the attacks are continuing to escalate. Read the updates; we've gone from "Nod is harassing the base" to "Nod is being kept out of artillery range of the base only by constant aggressive patrols and the garrison is feeling outclassed."
The subtext is extremely clear, in fact, it's the text. Nod is reinforcing and acting more aggressively around that base, and if they continue to escalate, they are very likely to launch a major assault next turn if they sense vulnerability. I want that attack to run into a fleet of operational MARVs trundling at it, not into an unfinished base surrounded by God knows how many thousands of refugees in shantytowns.
The 5a hub is located in an isolated area with no other GDI bases within hundreds of miles.
The 7N hub is located within convenient artillery range of one of the largest GDI fortresses on the North American continent.
One of these things is not like the other.
If Nod attacks the Chicago MARV hub in anything less than utterly overwhelming strength, the Chicago garrison will kick their balls up between their ears. You've argued that the 7N hub helps protect Chicago, and you're right, but that relationship works both ways.
A force much weaker than what is required to destroy the Chicago MARV hub (while fighting the Chicago garrison) would easily overrun the Colombian MARV hub (which has no extra reinforcing garrison nearby).
We are spending too much on MARVs in the long term given the limits of our budget.
That doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't surge completion of the MARV fleets we're already committed to building anyway. Since the Colombian MARV fleet urgently needs a surge (because we risk losing everything at that site if Nod attacks before the MARVs are operational), and since we probably can't afford to surge two MARV fleets while covering things like Scrin research into reactionless drives and fusion research and Johannesburg and finishing the vaccine program if possible and God knows what else...
By process of elimination, we should concentrate on starting up the fleet that is likely to be immediately destroyed if it doesn't start, then concentrate on getting the Chicago MARVs stood up and running as soon as possible. Whether we continue to invest in MARVs after that time will be an open question.
Again, Nod poking a site isolated and far from other GDI territory has much worse consequences than Nod poking a site co-located with one of our biggest fortified forward bases.
Huh?
If anything, finishing a MARV hub makes it LESS attractive and motivates Nod to divert and attack other targets like glacier mines instead. Because a glacier mine is guarded only by conventional forces, but if you attack an operational MARV hub you end up fighting one or more MARVs.
You're getting it backwards. Without mitigation, the Red Zones would be significantly larger than they are now, and the Yellow Zones would have virtually overrun the Blue Zones by now. All the mitigation we've done IS the thing that's slowed the spread of tiberium, it's not as if tiberium has literally ignored us.
Right now, every time the Yellow Zones roll an 85, we grumble and watch 0.1% of the planetary surface turn to Yellow Zone, then roll them back next turn when the Yellow Zones roll a 65 instead.
Without all our mitigation, every time the Yellow Zones roll an 85, we'd lose roughly five or six percent of the entire Blue Zone region of the planet.
The abatement tech hasn't yet been readied for deployment; they're still working on it and we're told it will show up as a Tiberium project when they're ready. The storage project did show up as an option to construct some kind of long-term tiberium silos to help us if we bump into our refinery cap, but we haven't taken it just yet because we don't really need it urgently.
Look, Oshha, it's basic logic. Character bonuses are based on what the characters are good at.
What is Granger good at? Tiberium research and civilian operations. What did he get bonuses at? Tiberium and Services. What was Granger bad at? Clueless about the military. What did he get a penalty at? Military dice.
What does Julian know well? Politics and the military. What will he get bonuses at? Politics and the military.
What does Julian NOT know well? Civilian life, since he hasn't been a civilian since he was a teenager, and bureaucratic administration of large agencies, because he's been a military officer, not a bureaucrat. What will Julian NOT get bonuses for? Civilian affairs outside of political maneuver, and handling bureaucracy.
Why would you expect him to have bonuses in areas he has no experience in? Why cling to the "the QM hasn't explicitly said in so many words that he won't have bonuses" argument?
- Location
- USA
Not getting 7N up that is if we slow roll 7N than all the areas they guard become tempting targets before the fleet is in place.
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Because QM has outright said that they have made a deliberate choice to not confirm or deny what bonuses each candidate has so just any claims that Julian has no bonuses aren't based on what the QM has said and instead come from speculation rather than provable fact. Saying Julian will provide no bonuses is wrong because the QM is deliberately running things in a way that we cannot know that.
Here is the QM post in question:
I don't want to come off as rude when I say this, but to be blunt, I'm going to take the unambiguous words of the guy running the quest over the logic of the guy who is not running it.
- Location
- The Underdark
The thing is that people like @Simon_Jester or @Crazycryodude or @Void Stalker are doing the right thing. They are taking what I have written and drawing interpretations. It is very much not random what kind of bonuses characters get. I generate the characters and then give you a description of them and their lives. I don't give you complete information, but I give you information that I expect you to use.