Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. (Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.)
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[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. (Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.)
We want as many of the count clans involved as possible, because we want them, to want us, to succeed, and for that we need them to buy into the project, even if not financially, then atleast asa concept.
We want as many of the count clans involved as possible, because we want them, to want us, to succeed, and for that we need them to buy into the project, even if not financially, then atleast asa concept.
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[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. (Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.)
I don't think we should buy out her service. I just wanted to remind that we do have responsibility toward her. She is not some puppet or tool
[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. (Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.)
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[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. (Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.)
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[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. (Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.)
[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. (Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.)
Seems like a no-brainer. Increasing relations, more chance of direct prestige and greater success in any future endeavors.
Seems like a no-brainer. Increasing relations, more chance of direct prestige and greater success in any future endeavors.
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Yrs is this part of the homepage for Threads up to date?
If so I'd like to make the argument that the only count clans we (as LQ) should approach to recruit for the diplomatic mission are the clans that overall have a positive relationship with us. That would be the Wang, Luo, and Bao clans respectively. We are inevitably going to make enemies in the Emerald Seas regardless of what we do in the long run and I think we should just go ahead and define them now. Bringing certain clans and excluding others allows us to potentially strengthen allies and cut down on motivations that may run counter to ours.
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[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. (Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.)
"Nooooooooooooooooo I don't want your job!!!"
It is not up-to-date. These are the current statuses:
As for your argument, while not having Ling Qi herself approach the Diao may be for the best, trying to exclude any of the count clans is an incredibly bad idea. Not only can Clan Ling absolutely not afford the enmity of any count clan, let alone the most powerful of them, deliberately driving wedges between the clans is diametrically opposed to CRX's - and Shenhua's - goal of a unified Emerald Seas.
Making an enemy of any count clan, or a significant bloc of the smaller clans, is a failure state for CRX's plans and likely CRX herself.
EDIT: We already have an in-story example of a faction that pit the clans of Emerald Seas against each other for its own advantage. That faction was the Hui. Consider your argument in that context.
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I believe Shenhua has amply demonstrated her understanding of the phrase, "to make an omelet you first need to crack a few eggs."
However, I see your point about actively making enemies which is not precisely what I meant. I was of the mind to actively pursue those that like us rather than actively opposing those that don't.
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"Elder Jiao has gone on a dangerous mission to find the mythical 5 Petal Tonic that can heal even the most damaged soul. He will face deadly trials of both the body and spirit. What a hero!"
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And then Jiao breaks through after facing those trials and tribulations as Xin laughs in the background.
[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. (Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.)
While Shenhua is certainly willing to crack eggs, we've only seen her resort to that for groups she's deemed unsalvageably corrupt rather than merely politically inconvenient. CRX had a line to that effect in a previous chapter - something about "ruling a desert" - but I can't find it.
As for your second point, we're in agreement - we, as in CRX's group, will need to do outreach to all the count clans and/or make it clear we're open to their involvement, but Ling Qi in particular is better suited for some than others. Going through the list:
- Meng: Despite us just having worked up to rank 0 (they really don't like the Bai), we've got more ins with the Meng than anyone else at this point. Already onboard, thanks to Meng Dan.
- Bao: We had them at "money". Will get involved without our invitation.
- Wang: Only putting them here thanks to Wang Chao potentially giving us an in. They'll be concerned about the potential military implications more than anything, and so will try to stick their noses in whether we invite them or not. Ling Qi is likely best positioned for outreach.
- Diao: Diao Linqin has at least some dislike for us and likely more for CRX, and the Imperial conservatives will turn their noses up, but the Diao are big and important enough I think they can't afford to not get involved. This may or may not be through Ling Qi.
- Luo: We have a potential in through Luo Zhong, but they simply may not care. If they do get involved, Ling Qi will be the connection.
- Jia: The other more Imperial types, not as big as the Diao, and we have no connections with them. If they do get involved, it will likely not be through Ling Qi.
[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. (Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.)
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I did it! I finally caught up with the entire thread! And it only took me... a month... >_>;;;
That being said:
[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. (Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.)
I agree with others' reasoning that we need all the support we can get from the Comital Clans, especially those who view us in a positive light, and particularly those on the border like the Wang. They will likely be involved regardless, and it's better to get ahead of that now with a positive "in". Plus, I'm kind of hoping that Ling Qi's relationship with Wang Chao, while not extremely close, is at least good enough that he will take such a proposal as something of a vote of confidence rather than an insult.
That being said:
[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. (Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.)
I agree with others' reasoning that we need all the support we can get from the Comital Clans, especially those who view us in a positive light, and particularly those on the border like the Wang. They will likely be involved regardless, and it's better to get ahead of that now with a positive "in". Plus, I'm kind of hoping that Ling Qi's relationship with Wang Chao, while not extremely close, is at least good enough that he will take such a proposal as something of a vote of confidence rather than an insult.
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[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. (Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.)