Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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What about a talisman that helps navigate the Liminal Realm? It makes sense that we would go for it after our our last outing there and it fits the Hui. It could help us if we ever want to explore the liminal realm like some people were thinking.
 
my first instinct is to get something to enhance LQ's babby scrying. Meng Dan has shown the difference between her amateur dabbling and an information specialist several times and I think divination is an interesting way to take LQ's interest in knowledge
 
A talisman that makes copies of jade scripts would be useful right about now, something like the one the Sect archive has. Perhaps there is one in the pile?
 
Alright so here's the thing: this vote is for three talismans, and the discord is already making up plans to give one to Zhengui, and possibly one to Sixiang. But the beauty of it is that it's three talismans, and we have three spirits!

I think it really fits for LQ to give one to each, especially since they were part of the Lord Scribbler fight too.
 
Aww, we missed spiderplomacy?
Here's how I think it went in part:
Cai: "Let us come to terms."
Head Spider:*looking around nervously* "Umm...real quick, are the two warriors who killed our brethren around? Just curious."
Cai: *rasies an imperial eyebrow* "Nooo...I could summon them here if you wish to meet them?"
Head Spider "NO! NO! NO!!! IT'S FINE!!! We were just...curious. What were we discussing? Unconditional surrender?! Yeah that sounds good. Everyone cool with that?" *looks around at other spiders*
Other Spiders: *Fervent agreement*
 
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Mhm, i sort of like the idea of getting 1 talisman for each of our spirits.
I think 'Ling Qi gets access to a huge hoard of loot and all 3 talismans she takes are for her spirits' is a nice narrative.
 
The great thing about this arc is just how powerful Cai's position as heiress will be once she gets back. Defeating a corpse Hui, getting reps from a powerful spider group, doing diplomacy outside of the empires borders. All of it looks really good.
 
The great thing about this arc is just how powerful Cai's position as heiress will be once she gets back. Defeating a corpse Hui, getting reps from a powerful spider group, doing diplomacy outside of the empires borders. All of it looks really good.
And we've only just begun! This is like a couple of days outside of the Empire's borders and already the investment into this project is paying off. And we've just been traveling to the goal!

Cai has to be happy about all the tools she is gathering to further impress upon people that she is someone to listen to and follow. Because that was always going to be her biggest problem, getting the respect needed to create lasting changes, and not just the fear to impose changes that last for as long as she looks at it.
 
Eh, maybe. I would like more meaningful, impactful talismans though that we can see actually doing something when Zhengui chooses to use it. I've always found resist talismans pretty hard to spot being used in a fight.
Zhengui is pretty strong. His main problem in fight is that his arts are too costly, with Two Minds tech he can spam techs, but he didn't have Qi to do that. I propose we give him talisman for Qi regeneration. It will also follow his Renewal theme nicely.
 
Zhengui is pretty strong. His main problem in fight is that his arts are too costly, with Two Minds tech he can spam techs, but he didn't have Qi to do that. I propose we give him talisman for Qi regeneration. It will also follow his Renewal theme nicely.
While I like the idea, that's probably overkill. Here are his stats in terms of Qi.

General:
Base Health: B20
- E rank Health Regeneration
Available Qi: B3
- Upkeep effects: Blood Boiling Venom (-5)
- F rank qi regen while not moving
- D rank qi regen with LQ domain active and Elegy up (bond 4)

You'll notice that he has F rank qi regen while not moving and D rank qi regen when Ling Qi is around. Combine that with an E rank qi regen from one of his techs, and he is rocking F, E, and D rank qi regen all throughout the fight. Which, while individually not particularly potent, combined means he can get a ton of qi back in longer fights, which are the types of fights that Ling Qi and Zhengui excel at.

Stacking even more qi regen won't likely meaningfully impact his ability to take and dish out damage, as well as the control aspects he has. In all of his fights, that I can remember at least, it wasn't his qi that gave out first, it was his ability to stop the opponent from quickly doing damage to him. But that has mainly been against those of higher stage and skill than him, like Wao and Sun Liling's spirit.
 
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[X][talisman] A Loupe with several lens options
-[X] Craft and Formations
 
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While I like the idea, that's probably overkill. Here are his stats in terms of Qi.



You'll notice that he has F rank qi regen while not moving and D rank qi regen when Ling Qi is around. Combine that with an E rank qi regen from one of his techs, and he is rocking F, E, and D rank qi regen all throughout the fight. Which, while individually not particularly potent, combined means he can get a ton of qi back in longer fights, which are the types of fights that Ling Qi and Zhengui excel at.

Stacking even more qi regen won't likely meaningfully impact his ability to take and dish out damage, as well as the control aspects he has. In all of his fights, that I can remember at least, it wasn't his qi that gave out first, it was his ability to stop the opponent from quickly doing damage to him. But that has mainly been against those of higher stage and skill than him, like Wao and Sun Liling's spirit.
Not quite, D rank qi regen only works if Elegy is used on him, wich LQ rarely does. Also B3 Qi is a really low considering that his most potent techs is B rank as well. Even D rank is too slow, what is to say about F rank, and even that only works if he isn't moving. But you are partly right, I guess giving him flat increase to Qi might be more impactful. It would allow him to use the same techs for a lower price.
 
Sixiang could probably use a talisman that let's them manipulate objects while dematerialized. Not so much for combat but just for general utility. Alternatively a Dispel talisman would get them up to A Dispel, which would be nice.

Hanyi could use more defense still.

Zhengui's field effects could stand to be improved, I still think that Resist is a good choice but something that boosts AoE or whatever could work? Could a talisman add a small poison DoT or a minor debuff to his attacks?

As FakePriest says, a flat qi buff would also help. He tends to run low on qi fairly quickly.

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[X] Claim the tapestry as part of your share and give the Meng right of first refusal(-.5 multiplier to loot auction value. +1 Meng opinion)
 
I present to you, the 'Crowd-Capturing Sash', or to Ling Qi, Ling Qi, the 'Sash of the substandard musician.'. Originally a tool gifted by a high ranking Hui to help his struggling son capture the hearts and minds of his audiences during his performances, the idea is that it allows the user to direct attention towards their created projections and Qi constructs.

We wouldn't be giving it to Ling Qi, though. This would be a talisman for Zhengui, allowing him to apply, in effect, a soft taunt to his constructs, like the roots and walls and lava fields that he throws up in battle. This would markedly increase both his options in battle, allowing him to direct attention and force people to engage with the happy-fun-time maze if they fail their checks.

In terms of fluff and the physical form of the talisman, I was trying to keep the idea plausibly Hui-ish, and more interesting than just 'number go up'. There aren't many things a human would wear that are also able to be worn by zhengui, so I settled on a sash, and the +Projection would be, originally, to help cover for the son's lack of skill. Moreover, the idea of a talisman commissioned for a shit musician by his rich dad is kinda funny, and Ling Qi would be so snobbish about it.


[X][talisman] Sash
-[X] +Projection, allows the user to apply taunt effect on projections and constructs
 
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Not quite, D rank qi regen only works if Elegy is used on him, wich LQ rarely does. Also B3 Qi is a really low considering that his most potent techs is B rank as well. Even D rank is too slow, what is to say about F rank, and even that only works if he isn't moving. But you are partly right, I guess giving him flat increase to Qi might be more impactful. It would allow him to use the same techs for a lower price.
You're right in that the D rank qi regen works when Elegy is active, but it does not need to be used on an ally of Bond 4 or greater to get the effect. As long as the technique is being used, our allies of Rank 4 get that D rank qi regen.
 
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